Post-Game Talk: The Wild? More like The Boring AF! Jets lose 3-1

[puck stoppa]

I know many posters are frustrated with this and get shot down and I get their point. Why not take Wheeler off top line yesterday to get a spark? Go with Scheif Laine and whoever else for a change. I know Scheif Wheels have chemistry and won’t be split up but for half a game why they always set in stone? I’d see this as a better spark when Scheif Wheels are having an off night:
Ehlers Scheif Laine
Connor Litts Wheels
Perreault Lowry Roslo

They will always go back to playing together but when they’re off split them up for a bit, maybe Wheels and Litts would gain an old spark for a period.

 

[Derfel]

Well. Maybe we should start a poll to see what the consensus is on what level of screwed we are at...

As long as the team sticks together...

 

[Derfel]

How would you define the conditions for which a goalie "stole the game"?

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but I doubt there's any metric that's going to objectively measure that. Sometimes you have to watch an entire game to know/see it.

 

[Flair Hay]

Will be a good chance to see how Poolman has come along.

Kulikov Myers will be new 2nd pair. Morrissey will get to pad his stats on PP1. Trouba and Myers gonna be logging big mins on PP2 and PK.

Morrow should get first shot playing with Benny 3rd pair. After they likely get caved in I imagine its Poolman and then Niku if anybody else goes down.

 

[puck stoppa]

Well. Maybe we should start a poll to see what the consensus is on what level of screwed we are at...

Well be fine. Team plays different with no Buff for some reason. When our Ds get hurt team defense seems to improve as players keep it simple and focus on defending more as a team.

 

[puck stoppa]

Will be a good chance to see how Poolman has come along.

Kulikov Myers will be new 2nd pair. Morrissey will get to pad his stats on PP1. Trouba and Myers gonna be logging big mins on PP2 and PK.

Morrow should get first shot playing with Benny 3rd pair. After they likely get caved in I imagine its Poolman and then Niku if anybody else goes down.

Is Poolman still hurt?

 

[Inflict]

You obviously like the coach, but PoMo is not skilled at in game adjustments. This team is rather fragile when they can't overwhelm with speed and skill. PoMo is completely unwilling to change up the lines in a fundamental way, even for a period. That is what mediocre looks like. I think the Jets are good enough talent wise that PoMo won't hurt the team, but when it comes to late playoff rounds I am not so sure that isn't the case.

Not skilled at in game adjustments? We've won many games after trailing the other team in both the 1st and 2nd periods. A far bit more than most of the teams in the NHL. Your statement here is just straight up factually wrong.

 

[pucka lucka]

Not skilled at in game adjustments? We've won many games after trailing the other team in both the 1st and 2nd periods. A far bit more than most of the teams in the NHL. Your statement here is just straight up factually wrong.

What? Think about that for a second then get back to me on how that means he makes in game adjustments.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but I doubt there's any metric that's going to objectively measure that. Sometimes you have to watch an entire game to know/see it.

While a 'perfect' embodiment that pleases everyone probably can't be found, surely there exists a metric that will measure it better than "I'll know it when I see it".

 

[Derfel]

While a 'perfect' embodiment that pleases everyone probably can't be found, surely there exists a metric that will measure it better than "I'll know it when I see it".

Well, good luck in your search.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I guess to me it seems pretty arbitrary to declare "Brossoit stole games X Y and Z" without defining what it means to "steal the game". Like, you can't really certify "our goalie stole that game" without defining in concrete terms what that means.

So if the SV% is arbitrary to you, let's remove that component. How would you define the conditions for which a goalie "stole the game"?

I guess you either believe that our backup has stolen a number of games for us (far more on a percentage basis than what you would expect a backup to steal), or not. For me it is pretty obvious after watching a game. I don't need to convince myself that my opinion is my opinion, with some stats that I decide are the right ones that will lead me to the determination that my opinion is my opinion. I don't disagree with your idea to do the analysis. Probably a sound idea. It just does nothing for me. That's all.

 

[Inflict]

What? Think about that for a second then get back to me on how that means he makes in game adjustments.

Winning games after trailing = coaches making in game adjustments. Didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.

 

[HannuJ]

High ankle sprain would be 4-6 weeks.

and January has 31 days.
that's over 4 weeks.

PoMo just said we'd be updated after the all-star break. So yep, high ankle sprain.
See you in February, Dustin.

 

[pucka lucka]

Winning games after trailing = coaches making in game adjustments. Didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.

how about you spell out the adjustments? I bet it has something to do with have one of the deepest teams in the league. Wild guess though

 

[Daximus]

That really sucks at a crucial point in the season too. Now Myers will be thrust into a top 4 role and he's been pretty terrible lately.

 

[Inflict]

how about you spell out the adjustments? I bet it has something to do with have one of the deepest teams in the league. Wild guess though

Systems, strategies, line changes, line usage, encouragement, motivation, etc. I mean, just listen to the guy's post game interviews. He will usually tell the media the adjustments the team makes when we come from behind or start off slow. It's not that hard to find if you would just look and listen and not just being set in your ways to try and double down on your obviously wrong narrative here.

Our team cannot coach itself. There is a reason why we've been a very successful team as of late and it has to do with both our coaching staff and our players. It's not one or the other.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Not a good time to lose Buf. After a couple of weak home losses too. But we have benefitted from very few significant injuries so far this year so we are due statistically I guess. Nashville injured players have been trickling back in. We are a different team without Buf, and our opponents know it. I expect a pretty dramatic shift in the standings between now and the ASB.

 

[jepjepjoo]

if that's an upper ankle sprain, Buff will be out for the month.

Might be more considering Buff's weight...

 

[LowLefty]

how about you spell out the adjustments? I bet it has something to do with have one of the deepest teams in the league. Wild guess though

In game adjustments can mean a lot of things -
Have the D pinch more, adjust zone entry tactics, a PP adjustment, a change in break out strategy, and so on.

You don't necessarily have to change up the lines to make adjustments -

 

[Neuf]

It's a cruel fate that during a game where Myers plays like Burmistrov, that it's Byfuglien that gets injured.

 

[jefferoni]

 

[Gil Fisher]

Somebody mentioned Poolman...he is out long-term with a concussion.

 

[Tommigun]

Any word on Buff? I’m no doctor but the fact he didn’t show pain but couldnt really move the knee suggests maybe an ACL or MCL injury? If so, he’s likely done for the year if it’s a tear?

Buff doesn’t show pain.

 

[Ducky10]

You obviously like the coach, but PoMo is not skilled at in game adjustments. This team is rather fragile when they can't overwhelm with speed and skill. PoMo is completely unwilling to change up the lines in a fundamental way, even for a period. That is what mediocre looks like. I think the Jets are good enough talent wise that PoMo won't hurt the team, but when it comes to late playoff rounds I am not so sure that isn't the case.

It's not so much liking the coach but who I see as more accountable when it comes to adjustments in games like yesterday. I'm critical of Maurice in several areas and I've often stated that I feel he's a good coach, not a great coach, although I'm cynical as to what constitutes a great coach, it's overblown in today'sNHL.

Some games are more coaching related, some aren't . I didn't think yesterday's game was a matter of coaching , it was a matter of player execution.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

It was his ankle that went over, those ligaments would be stretched. Not sure why you think his knee was injured?

My bad, thought Sawyer said knee on the replay.