WWE: The Undertaker's Wrestlemania plans not ruined by Strowman!

[Loosie]

The other thing with the Streak, is that before it was a thing that was talked about, it isn't terribly impressive.

It really wasn't. It was just a coincidence that he kept being booked to win for the first while. Diesel, Sid and Kane would be his highest profile pre 'streak being a thing' matches.

His first match against Snuka was a throw-away match to get more people on the card.

Jake was at least the blow-off to a feud but Jake was also on his way out... man they killed Jake in that match, killed the DDT then gave Jake a tombstone on the concrete.

Most people want to forget his next two against GG and Bundy (in the middle of his feud with the Million $ Corporation).

Then came the first big time match against Diesel. The match agaisnt Sid would be forgettable except that it was for the title, and also was really the start of Paul Bearer bringing in Kane....

Which lead to the following year WM match against Kane.

Another match people want to forget against Bossman that just about killed the HIAC match.

Then came another 'thrown together' match except that it was against HHH. The build up was pretty much HHH coming out and saying "I've beat everybody there is to beat" *dong* "Except me" Again I believe at this point that started to reference Taker "never having lost at WM before"

Then you get to Flair to make it 10-0.

The trainwreck that was supposed to be Undertaker & Nathan Jones vs. Big Show & A-Train. But the realized how much Nathan Jones sucked so locked him the back and made it a handicapped match.

Kane part II.

Then it became about ending the streak.

 

[ColePens]

I know we will never really know, but I would kill for Mark's candid thoughts on the streak. I want to know why he wanted to give it away, what he thought about it, if it was partially a burden, what he thought about WM 30, etc. I think every fan's dream would be a LONG interview with Taker with tons of stories and thoughts w/o any filter or character.

if undertaker still had the streak do you guys think he would even be considered to face mid card chumps like wyatt last year and strowman now?

that's all you need to know about how WWE devalued the undertaker, and the streak.

I've always been a Taker fan, but even as a Taker fan... I just don't give a **** about him anymore. The streak meant that much, IMO. I completely agree it devalued him and while it's nice to see Taker on the card, I'm so sick of these 1 match wrestlers because the storylines are always so forced and predictable.

I honestly don't care if he retired tomorrow. I will praise him as one of the best ever, but I just don't care for non-streak near retirement one match Undertaker. Just doesn't do anything for me. (even though the last couple matches with Lesnar were cool).

However - IF Taker does a retirement match where he becomes more-so connected with the crowd, then I'm all in. I think it was discussed in one of Adam's videos. It was well done.

 

[Loosie]

WWE could produce a candid out of character interview with Mark Calaway that would last hours and I would spend money on it.

 

[Kimi]

Only 9.99!!!

 

[Balance]

Brock, post Taker streak, has been an amazing sight. No doubt in my mind.

However, Cena vs Taker for the streak in an I quit match would have been the best WM buildup ever.

 

[Kimi]

Yeah, that match would have been insane... But I don't think it is the right one to have. Unfortunately.

It would be like taking two streaks, and ending them both at once. Without anyone getting a boost from it. So much wasted that could be drawn out into more money later.


But Cena vs Streak should have happened at some point.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I know we will never really know, but I would kill for Mark's candid thoughts on the streak. I want to know why he wanted to give it away, what he thought about it, if it was partially a burden, what he thought about WM 30, etc. I think every fan's dream would be a LONG interview with Taker with tons of stories and thoughts w/o any filter or character.




I've always been a Taker fan, but even as a Taker fan... I just don't give a **** about him anymore. The streak meant that much, IMO. I completely agree it devalued him and while it's nice to see Taker on the card, I'm so sick of these 1 match wrestlers because the storylines are always so forced and predictable.

I honestly don't care if he retired tomorrow. I will praise him as one of the best ever, but I just don't care for non-streak near retirement one match Undertaker. Just doesn't do anything for me. (even though the last couple matches with Lesnar were cool).

However - IF Taker does a retirement match where he becomes more-so connected with the crowd, then I'm all in. I think it was discussed in one of Adam's videos. It was well done.

I mean it is pretty hard at this point to have any good build for him without it, and I'm one of the biggest Taker marks around. It was as big, if not bigger then almost anything on the card at Mania for the last so many years. Forget how it started, it became one of THE things at Mania.

I would love a candid interview on Taker's opinions on the streak, because it was never clear whether he wanted it broken at 30. Vince went on the podcast and said it was his call and not Mark's, so you wonder if he changed he mind since he knew he was getting near the end. Maybe he wanted to just keep it at that point? Or maybe thought the best call was to break it at his retirement to make the rub even bigger?

We don't know yet, but it is possible.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Yeah, that match would have been insane... But I don't think it is the right one to have. Unfortunately.

It would be like taking two streaks, and ending them both at once. Without anyone getting a boost from it. So much wasted that could be drawn out into more money later.


But Cena vs Streak should have happened at some point.

Cena/Taker retirement match could still have a great build and rival some of the streak builds and still be a potentially solid match.

There is apparently some hoping Cena might make the miracle recovery and be back in time to make Cena/Taker happen this year.

 

[Paris in Flames]

I would never doubt John Cena tbh.

 

[Kimi]

That's something that I speculated on when Cena was first injured. He was rushed into surgery ASAP. Almost like he finished taping Smackdown, got thrown into an ambulance, dumped into an already prepared operating theatre; all without taking a breath. It said to me that it wasn't as bad as it looks, and that he could come back sooner than expected (again). Otherwise, why rush?


But if we don't get it this year, I'm not sure if we get it next year. Assuming 'Taker retires next year, I wonder if they'll have him put someone else over over the way out. Would be nice for Bray to get his win back... But Cena retiring him wouldn't be terrible.

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[DD03]

That's something that I speculated on when Cena was first injured. He was rushed into surgery ASAP. Almost like he finished taping Smackdown, got thrown into an ambulance, dumped into an already prepared operating theatre; all without taking a breath. It said to me that it wasn't as bad as it looks, and that he could come back sooner than expected (again). Otherwise, why rush?


But if we don't get it this year, I'm not sure if we get it next year. Assuming 'Taker retires next year, I wonder if they'll have him put someone else over over the way out. Would be nice for Bray to get his win back... But Cena retiring him wouldn't be terrible.

The thing is, could WWE handle Cena getting boo'd that badly?

Idk if they could.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The thing is, could WWE handle Cena getting boo'd that badly?

Idk if they could.

He already does in front of smarky crowds, and Taker is always the automatic babyface no matter who he wrestles.

They lived with Rock getting booed like crazy when he wrestled Hogan. Taker is a legend so its a special situation.

If Cena goes over he would shake Taker's hand and vanish right away letting Taker have his moment.

In fact I imagine they would prefer someone like Cena does it (assuming Taker loses his retirement match, which isn't guaranteed) then a younger guy as it will generate a lot of heat, potentially to much bad heat that could slow down someone's career (could make him too...tough to say). Cena can absorb that without any real damage if the reaction goes south.

Same way Shawn could absorb the heat for retiring Flair, and Taker could absorb retiring Shawn.

 

[DD03]

He already does in front of smarky crowds, and Taker is always the automatic babyface no matter who he wrestles.

They lived with Rock getting booed like crazy when he wrestled Hogan. Taker is a legend so its a special situation.

If Cena goes over he would shake Taker's hand and vanish right away letting Taker have his moment.

In fact I imagine they would prefer someone like Cena does it (assuming Taker loses his retirement match, which isn't guaranteed) then a younger guy as it will generate a lot of heat, potentially to much bad heat that could slow down someone's career (could make him too...tough to say). Cena can absorb that without any real damage if the reaction goes south.

Same way Shawn could absorb the heat for retiring Flair, and Taker could absorb retiring Shawn.

I know what you mean. But I could see WWE being worried about him being boo'd because he's THEIR guy.

 

[George Binks]

The thing is, could WWE handle Cena getting boo'd that badly?

Idk if they could.

Could it really be much worse?

 

[S A W F T*]

I've got an idea! Have Roman retire Taker!

 

[Loosie]

I've got an idea! Have Roman retire Taker!

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I've got an idea! Have Roman retire Taker!

Alright, Vince, what are you doing here?

 

[Kimi]

He already does in front of smarky crowds, and Taker is always the automatic babyface no matter who he wrestles.

They lived with Rock getting booed like crazy when he wrestled Hogan. Taker is a legend so its a special situation.

If Cena goes over he would shake Taker's hand and vanish right away letting Taker have his moment.

In fact I imagine they would prefer someone like Cena does it (assuming Taker loses his retirement match, which isn't guaranteed) then a younger guy as it will generate a lot of heat, potentially to much bad heat that could slow down someone's career (could make him too...tough to say). Cena can absorb that without any real damage if the reaction goes south.

Same way Shawn could absorb the heat for retiring Flair, and Taker could absorb retiring Shawn.

Yeah. This is the same reason Lesnar broke the streak; to protect who ever they were giving the rub to down the line.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Jake was at least the blow-off to a feud but Jake was also on his way out... man they killed Jake in that match, killed the DDT then gave Jake a tombstone on the concrete.

Probably the worst tombstone he ever gave in a WM match. To be fair, it looked like he was trying to do it very gingerly so he didn't really hurt Jake or his own knees.

 

[ColePens]

I'll just leave this here.

Why u heff to give me chills?

You know.. it's not crazy for this feud to happen. Since nothing makes sense for Taker right now, there's nothing wrong with him going to the ring and saying no demon can take him down. People would think Demon Kane.... but boom out comes Balor in full Demon entrance OR not even in demon entrance (whatever you prefer).

If he comes out as a demon, no words need to be spoken. If he comes out and says he has a demon... and that demon has a club... I think I'd mark out.

And ****, who cares, give Balor the win. Let the Bullet Club be there. I'll go crazy.

 

[ColePens]

Cena/Taker retirement match could still have a great build and rival some of the streak builds and still be a potentially solid match.

There is apparently some hoping Cena might make the miracle recovery and be back in time to make Cena/Taker happen this year.

Cena/Taker retirement match and Cena loses (so he can be with his wife and film a movie or two). That... would... blow people's minds. Plus when Cena came back, he'd be bigger than ever.

 

[S A W F T*]

Just have Undertaker show up at Takeover and abduct regular Balor.

Taker comes out at Mania with the urn, claiming he took the soul of Balor.

Urn explodes and out comes Demon Balor because demons don't have souls.

Boom!

 

[ColePens]

Just have Undertaker show up at Takeover and abduct regular Balor.

Taker comes out at Mania with the urn, claiming he took the soul of Balor.

Urn explodes and out comes Demon Balor because demons don't have souls.

Boom!

It's been talked about before, but Taker showing up at NXT Takeover would blow the ****ing roof off of the place. I think it would be the loudest an arena has ever been. It'd be the right crowd and the most epic moment.

Even if it makes no sense, it just would be insane.

 

[Sheppy]

Truthfully I'm kind of bored of deadman Taker.