The Transformers thread (shows, comics, toys, all things TF)

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I'll correct you on this note ;) Wheeljack was the "mad scientist" and Ratchet the medic. Perceptor was the "scientist".

...and then they introduced the Technobots, but let's forget about things like that, too late in the show.

I know that Rachet was the medic, but since they're robots, it crosses over more with general science and technical stuff. I was also just too lazy to list Perceptor. Just like I skipped Beachcomber who was the team geologist. And technically Skids was a theoretician, but that would've been too difficult to explain in a kids show so they would've just lumped him in the science crowd with the rest if they had bothered to include that part.
 
I know that Rachet was the medic, but since they're robots, it crosses over more with general science and technical stuff. I was also just too lazy to list Perceptor. Just like I skipped Beachcomber who was the team geologist. And technically Skids was a theoretician, but that would've been too difficult to explain in a kids show so they would've just lumped him in the science crowd with the rest if they had bothered to include that part.

I'll grant you it was Wheeljack and Ratchet that made the Dinobots in the cartoon ;)
 
I know that Rachet was the medic, but since they're robots, it crosses over more with general science and technical stuff. I was also just too lazy to list Perceptor. Just like I skipped Beachcomber who was the team geologist. And technically Skids was a theoretician, but that would've been too difficult to explain in a kids show so they would've just lumped him in the science crowd with the rest if they had bothered to include that part.

Don't forget Huffer. He was like an engineer and metallurgist or something like that.
 
I have the entire series on DVD and the movie. Grimlock still remains my favorite and I still have my grimlock toy with me.

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Though he is missing his dino head and the left half of his tail
 
I have the entire series on DVD and the movie. Grimlock still remains my favorite and I still have my grimlock toy with me.

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Though he is missing his dino head and the left half of his tail

I have that one too. Ahh Generation 2. It marries the classic G1 toys with the most insane 90s bright, splashy colors you can find.

blue Grimlock? Sure!

Green with purple camo Megatron (who now turns into a tank)? Absolutely!

Screaming neon Combaticons? You bet!

Yellow and later orange Constructicons? Why not?

Tons of aqua and fuchsia and blinding orange? Of course!

The only really good things about Gen2 (I have a small # of G2 toys because they were right at the end of my interest in TF toys as a kid) was that design took a step forward with things like ball joints to give the robots more movement, and light-piping for a cool effect to create glowing eyes.
 
Some of those combiner sets were never released. I think the Aerialbots were, but the Protectobot set wasn't (shame. I have a G1 Hot Spot (the fire engine that is the core/torso of Defensor) but never got the other pieces.), nor were the Stunticons it was pictured with. Similarly, the orange Constructicons were only released at the tail end of the line in a handful of markets. The rarest of the rare is a reissue of a stealth-bomber/jet fighter set that was part of G2, redone in purple and bright blue/teal and renamed as Megatron and Starscream. They were done as a test market only in a handful of stores in Ohio and nowhere else. Very few of them exist today and they're more sought after than even some prototype models that people smuggled out of Hasbro factories and offices.

Also if I'm not mistaken, the G2 Aerialbots were a collector's nightmare because large amounts of at least one of the limb bots had its body cast in a metallic gold plastic which is notorious for basically spontaneously falling apart or outright shattering under the slightest touch (and not the kind of stress fracturing that most Transformers are subject to). In that pic you posted, it's the left (camera right) arm. Whoever assembled that Superion is a brave man, because it's entirely likely that it will never come apart without exploding into a billion tiny pieces.

I have a G2 tank figure that I dare not touch anymore because it's entire undercarriage (which forms the robot mod chest) is a big chunk of gold plastic on a swivel joint and though it survived me playing with it as a kid, it can and will implode without warning now.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Gold_Plastic_Syndrome

The worst offender for collectors is a G1 Japanese release that's a repaint of Skorponok called "BlackZarak". Basically all of its accessories are cast in gold plastic, as are its feet. Apparently collectors have opened fresh, untouched boxes to find the figure already broken inside in spite of having never been out of the box. It's also why there's basically no such thing as a complete figure and why if you go on ebay, individual parts and pieces (like a shinpad or a gun or just a mini accessory robot's head) will cost upwards of $50. There are reports of people buying as-mint-as-possible-in-box figures for between $1500 and $2000 when they're still visibly broken. And these prices were from 2010-2012, so that's likely gone up since then.

Behold, the thing that will set you back a mortgage payment or two and disintegrate before your eyes:

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Nemises your knowledge of Transformers is amazing. :nod:

I've spent a lot of time reading the Transformers wiki and reading up on both the story/lore side of the brand and all the behind the scenes business and marketing and collectors' side of things. After being such a fan of the series as a kid, the stuff behind the curtain fascinates me.
 
Also if I'm not mistaken, the G2 Aerialbots were a collector's nightmare because large amounts of at least one of the limb bots had its body cast in a metallic gold plastic which is notorious for basically spontaneously falling apart or outright shattering under the slightest touch (and not the kind of stress fracturing that most Transformers are subject to). In that pic you posted, it's the left (camera right) arm. Whoever assembled that Superion is a brave man, because it's entirely likely that it will never come apart without exploding into a billion tiny pieces.

I have a lot of G1 Transformers, did they have this metallic gold plastic issue?
 
I have a lot of G1 Transformers, did they have this metallic gold plastic issue?

Probably not, depending on when in G1 the figures are from. The TF wiki indicates that as near as anyone can tell, the issue started popping up significantly in about 1988-89 and was most prominent through the end of the Beast Wars toy run in 98. So if you've got anything older than the Pretenders series (smaller robots that fit inside a vinyl/plastic "shell" that looked like a humanoid or a monster or something. By that year G1 was winding down and most of what was on the market was a few dwindling lines and teh start of micromasters (simple little tiny figures) or the infamous action masters (transformers that don't transform)

It also is only confined to the gold/bronze plastic that had metallic flecks in it. Chromed or reflective gold plastic wasn't an issue (unless the core of the piece under the chrome was cast in that gold plastic. Usually it wasn't though. Most pieces destined for chrome plating was done in black)

It's also possible that you got a good figure that's free of the issue. My G2 Stalker figure has a gold chest (and of a similar style/line to a figure known to be a prime offender of the gold plastic issue) and has survived 20+ years without breakage. Not that I'd want to transform it now out of fear that it could explode on me, but just because GPS is widespread doesn't mean that everyone's gold figures are doomed to crumble like a soggy breadstick.
 
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Probably not, depending on when in G1 the figures are from. The TF wiki indicates that as near as anyone can tell, the issue started popping up significantly in about 1988-89 and was most prominent through the end of the Beast Wars toy run in 98. So if you've got anything older than the Pretenders series (smaller robots that fit inside a vinyl/plastic "shell" that looked like a humanoid or a monster or something. By that year G1 was winding down and most of what was on the market was a few dwindling lines and teh start of micromasters (simple little tiny figures) or the infamous action masters (transformers that don't transform)

It also is only confined to the gold/bronze plastic that had metallic flecks in it. Chromed or reflective gold plastic wasn't an issue (unless the core of the piece under the chrome was cast in that gold plastic. Usually it wasn't though. Most pieces destined for chrome plating was done in black)

It's also possible that you got a good figure that's free of the issue. My G2 Stalker figure has a gold chest (and of a similar style/line to a figure known to be a prime offender of the gold plastic issue) and has survived 20+ years without breakage. Not that I'd want to transform it now out of fear that it could explode on me, but just because GPS is widespread doesn't mean that everyone's gold figures are doomed to crumble like a soggy breadstick.


Thanks! :)
 

I could be wrong. Anything could potentially be subject to GPS. It's just a safer bet for anything from before 88/89. Which basically means that most of the popular figures and prominent TV characters are fine since the stuff that debuted in 88 was like a year after the show went off the air. But you're probably safe.
 
This thread is giving me urges to play through Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron again. I used some leftover MS Points to buy some G1 skins for some characters (Optimus Prime, Bruticus)
 
This thread is giving me urges to play through Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron again. I used some leftover MS Points to buy some G1 skins for some characters (Optimus Prime, Bruticus)


Great game!

Loved when Metroplex appears at 24min 30sec.

Metroplex heeds the call of the last Prime!


 
Finally found my copies of the Transformers Universe. Typical Marvel Universe comics focusing on just Transformers, published in the early 90s. Thought I'd lost them when they weren't with my other Transformers comics, but apparently I decided just to protect those with my other comics while I let my pretty much worthless Transformers comics sit loose in a box.
 
Some Transformers 30th Anniversary news.



Also, the Transformers Movie Soundtrack is being re-released on vinyl.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...iginal-soundtrack-re-release-on-vinyl-181487/

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I don't want the music...despite being on the cusp of 40, I want them to bring back the original toy lines.:D:p:

Did you guys know that today's version of the Transformers toys, in about 90% of the product line, don't even transform? And of those that do, it seems they're looking for ways to simplify it into one twist of the wrist and BANGO!:shakehead

The thing I loved about the original toys is that they were effectively a puzzle to be solved...and we almost always solved it without looking at the instructions back then.
 
I almost wish I hadn't stumbled upon this thread. Immediately checked Amazon for those masterpiece toys to possibly give to my nephew for his birthday.

Anyways, indulge me as I nerd out about my Transformers story. In 1987, I got Fortress Maximus for Christmas. While my parents let me play with it whenever, they had a very firm rule that I had to put it back into the box with the styrofoam after I was done.

Growing up, my family was never big on going to the movie theater so I had to wait for VHS releases. At the time, there was only one video store in town. We rented a copy of Transformers: The Movie and somebody had taped over it with Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. So I never got to see the movie in its entirety as a kid.

Fast forward to 1999 and I'm a college sophomore. Sounds silly to say now, but eBay was still a new concept to me and I was just starting to use it to buy things. Out of curiosity, I checked to see how much Fortress Maximus was going for. My jaw dropped when I saw auctions routinely ending in the $400-500 range. I was on a strict budget, so naturally I saw an opportunity to get a little more spending cash.

I fetched the toy during winter break and had it in my dorm room. Meanwhile my roommate had a high school friend visiting. He spotted it and we started talking up Transformers. I eventually noted that I never got to see the movie because of the Mr. Rogers' snafu. Then the guy excitedly tells me that he has the movie with him.

Part of me was stoked to finally watch the movie. Part of was weirded out that this guy traveled with a VHS copy of Transformers: The Movie.

I eventually put Fortress Maximus on eBay. I was bummed as the bidding was stagnant and it was only at $300 going into the final day. But to my delight, two guys were continually outbidding each other to the final moments. Auction ended at $660. As I would learn, the toy itself was maybe worth $300 but the box and styrofoam doubled its value.
 
Fast forward to 1999 and I'm a college sophomore. Sounds silly to say now, but eBay was still a new concept to me and I was just starting to use it to buy things. Out of curiosity, I checked to see how much Fortress Maximus was going for. My jaw dropped when I saw auctions routinely ending in the $400-500 range. I was on a strict budget, so naturally I saw an opportunity to get a little more spending cash.

I eventually put Fortress Maximus on eBay. I was bummed as the bidding was stagnant and it was only at $300 going into the final day. But to my delight, two guys were continually outbidding each other to the final moments. Auction ended at $660. As I would learn, the toy itself was maybe worth $300 but the box and styrofoam doubled its value.

I also own a Fortress Maximus.

I went to a Transformers Convention this past summer and I saw a Fortress Maximus with the box for $1100. :amazed:


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I also own a Fortress Maximus.

I went to a Transformers Convention this past summer and I saw a Fortress Maximus with the box for $1100. :amazed:


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Maybe once a year I'll check eBay to see how much they're going for now. Last I saw, the price for one with the box/styrofoam was about $800. Definitely didn't have any regrets about selling it when I did. $660 to a college student is certainly more than $800 to me as an adult.

I did recall seeing that an unopened Fortress Maximus fetched over $2,000 though. eBay will also have listings for loose parts and I remember seeing that the Fortress Maximus instruction manual (which I didn't have) sold for like $40-50. I was hoping to find it when my parents finally sold/moved out of our house a couple years ago.

Last year for Christmas, I bought my nephew a re-released Metroplex which eclipsed Fortress Maximus as the biggest one ever made. I left it at my parents' new house.....where it remains in its box. In a weird way, I'm amused that my parents impose the same rules on him as they did with me.
 
Last year for Christmas, I bought my nephew a re-released Metroplex which eclipsed Fortress Maximus as the biggest one ever made. I left it at my parents' new house.....where it remains in its box. In a weird way, I'm amused that my parents impose the same rules on him as they did with me.


Did you buy it retail or online?
 
Did you buy it retail or online?

I was at Toys R Us last year shopping for other gifts and stumbled on Metroplex. I think there were two left for $129. Apparently Toys R Us had it as a $78 Black Friday doorbuster.

Here's the 1987 pic of me and Fortress Maximus:

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