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Blue Jays Discussion: The trade deadline approaches (Tue, Aug 2 at 6pm ET/3pm PT) and the market is taking shape

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I like the trade... suddenly the bullpen looks pretty deep. Pop doesn't get much swing and miss, but an upper-90s sinker with an elite groundball rate will play with this infield defense.

I liked Bass even though I wasn't convinced he would maintain what he's done this season, but you don't get a much better Statcast page than this:

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Vector said:
So here's the Blue Jays current pitching roster:

SP:
Berrios
Gausman
Kikuchi
Manoah
Stripling

RP:
Cimber
Garcia
Mayza
Phelps
Romano
Banda
Richards
Thornton

The bolded are the ones most likely to lose their spots to Bass and Pop. The Jays have room to either get a starting pitcher and move Kikuchi into the pen, move that pitcher to the pen, or try a piggyback strategy with the two. Or they could just acquire a new reliever.
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What I love about that trade is, it pushes everyone but Romano down a spot and adds another Cimber/Garcia/Phelps quality arm to the next tier with Pop.
 
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Bjindaho said:
Just an FYI, but we aren't allowed to have 9 in the pen. League rules state that 13 is the max for pitchers.
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I guess Richards might be the odd one out given how terrible he's been this year.

Starting pitchers:
- Manoah
- Gausman
- Berrios
- Stripling
- Kikuchi

Relievers:
- Romano
- Garcia
- Bass
- Cimber
- Mayza
- Pop
- Phelps
- Castillo

If the Jays land another pitcher (starter or reliever), Castillo also probably the odd one out as Kikuchi would move to the pen if another starter comes along
 
Discoverer said:
Tapia's been awesome for like 2.5 months now. Obviously an upgrade is an upgrade, but I wouldn't exactly be in a hurry to dump him when there are actual scraps on the 40-man.
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My thinking is that if you get Happ, Tapia becomes your #5 outfielder, inheriting Zimmer's role of substitute defender and pinch runner...and he's inferior to Zimmer in both of these, and is much more expensive to boot.
 
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Kurtz said:
My thinking is that if you get Happ, Tapia becomes your #5 outfielder, inheriting Zimmer's role of substitute defender and pinch runner...and he's inferior to Zimmer in both of these, and is much more expensive to boot.
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That depends on Springer's health, doesn't it?
 
I like the trade. Pop is still relatively young and it looks like he has the tools to be better than he has been so far in his career. Not sure about Bass though. He has a terrific season but i was not a fan of him 2 years ago ... still Groshans was overrated imo. Still need a starter imo. I would not say no to a guy like Happ either.
 
Kurtz said:
My thinking is that if you get Happ, Tapia becomes your #5 outfielder, inheriting Zimmer's role of substitute defender and pinch runner...and he's inferior to Zimmer in both of these, and is much more expensive to boot.
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Oh yeah, I absolutely agree. Zimmer would make more sense on the roster in that case. I guess I just read the "drive him to the airport" part as if he's useless and you can't wait to get rid of him. It makes sense though.
 
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LaP said:
I like the trade. Pop is still relatively young and it looks like he has the tools to be better than he has been so far in his career. Not sure about Bass though. He has a terrific season but i was not a fan of him 2 years ago ... still Groshans was overrated imo. Still need a starter imo. I would not say no to a guy like Happ either.
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I think I read something here that Bass figured something out with his slider which allowed him to be more effective.
 
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We wanted a Soto and we got a Soda instead. I could go on with these jokes all day if you guys want. My kids and wife already asked me to stop
 
Discoverer said:
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree. Zimmer would make more sense on the roster in that case. I guess I just read the "drive him to the airport" part as if he's useless and you can't wait to get rid of him. It makes sense though.
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there’s enough infield flexibility that you trade for Happ both Tapia and Zimmer stay. Tapia does become pretty useless at that point as there’s an offensive 4th outfield in front of him and a defensive/fast 6th outfielder behind him. Might as well keep him for injury protection rather than roster Collins
 
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stickty111 said:

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Wonder who the PTBNL will be. Could be nothing but the fact that it’s not a PTBNL or cash considerations suggests it’s might be something interesting. Plus the Jays have a knack for getting teams to throw in decent prospects in these trades for whatever reason.
 
hoc123 said:
Wonder who the PTBNL will be. Could be nothing but the fact that it’s not a PTBNL or cash considerations suggests it’s might be something interesting. Plus the Jays have a knack for getting teams to throw in decent prospects in these trades for whatever reason.
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I have to assume its nothing since Pop and Bass is more then enough for Groshans
 
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Jays really like to acquire players with an extra year of team control. I don't think they'll actually go out and get Rodon. Thor is a little bit different because the Jays should be able to get him cheaper given the size of his contract and diminished results.
 
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