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BenedictGomez said:
I totally disagree.

SEE: Jerry Sienfeld's recent explanation that he doesnt even do college shows anymore because 18-22 year olds today are a bunch of whiny, over-protected, coddled, babies who cant take a joke.
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I resent this. Not all of us...

(I'm 24 now, but I was that demographic entirely within the last six years, so yeah.)

Not to say I didn't have peers like that, but I had just as many who weren't.
 
BenedictGomez said:
Good mother.
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She threw out my WASP Animal t-shirt too...That was my favorite.

I wore it on game day under my pads. Cut off sleeves, cut at belly and "I F like a Beast" on the back. Man that shirt always went over well in the locker room of a Catholic High School.

Sister Germaine called my mother and told her not to let me wear that again. Gone the same day.

So I started wearing the Merciful Fate "Nuns have no Fun" shirt....Gone too.
 
Aethon said:
She threw out my WASP Animal t-shirt too...That was my favorite.

I wore on game day under my pads. Cut off sleeves, cut at belly and "I F like a Beast" on the back. Man that shirt always went over well in the locker room of a Catholic High School.

Sister Germaine called my mother and told her not to let me wear that again. Gone the same day.

So I started wearing the Merciful Fate "Nuns have no Fun" shirt....Gone too.
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damn jim you were a rebel :biglaugh:
 
Aethon said:
She threw out my WASP Animal t-shirt too...That was my favorite.

I wore it on game day under my pads. Cut off sleeves, cut at belly and "I F like a Beast" on the back. Man that shirt always went over well in the locker room of a Catholic High School.

Sister Germaine called my mother and told her not to let me wear that again. Gone the same day.

So I started wearing the Merciful Fate "Nuns have no Fun" shirt....Gone too.
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tell me about your mommy issues :P
 
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Jerry Seinfeld's comedy was very much born of it's time. It's no wonder that 18 year olds don't find him as funny as 40 year olds do; they weren't around when most of his comedy was relevant.

I also find his criticism of people being whiney as hilarious, when so much of his schtick was complaining about stuff.
 
I take great pride in growing up on Seinfeld still being syndicated in prime time slots on broadcast networks. Now it's never on until 11:00.

I love Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. Seinfeld interviewing fellow comedians and unique, rare cars. What's not to like?
 
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That Seinfeld quote is stupid. Not because it’s wrong (there are plenty of young people who aren’t into being offended at everything), but because when I think of comedians with edgy material, I don’t think of Jerry Seinfeld.

Remember when Amy Schumer was a grossout and insult comedian? She cynically rode the wave of “woke” comedy into an uneven TV show, and now almost every show on Comedy Central is like a worse version of hers. It’s the opposite of 15 years ago, when it was all terrible shows trying to copy Chappelle. Give it another 15 years and history might repeat itself.
 
Aethon said:
With this Supreme Court hearing going on...I have recently been reminded about some of the things I did in high school. I don't think I can be a judge?
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I *know* I can't be a judge.

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I just had a flashback to our senior-sanctioned tailgate at MetLife before the 2011 Non-Public Group IV football final.

I still have no idea how none of us got in trouble, then again, I hardly remember the game.

You'd be surprised how quickly you can fake sober when saying hello to your principal and school's highest-ranking Catholic priest.
 
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New Jersey said:
I *know* I can't be a judge.

Edit (story):

I just had a flashback to our senior-sanctioned tailgate at MetLife before the 2011 Non-Public Group IV football final.

I still have no idea how none of us got in trouble, then again, I hardly remember the game.

You'd be surprised how quickly you can fake sober when saying hello to your principal and school's highest-ranking Catholic priest.
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I am of the opinion that you are supposed to do stupid things up to a certain age.

Like 48 or 49 :)
 
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DevilDoggo said:
I did lots of stupid things as a teenager up to my early 20s. But they were wrath-related, not lust-related.
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hah, i lost a friend over something like this. he ended up being a self-righteous prick so it's cool but i have an idea of where you're coming from. :laugh:

edit: not my fault that word ain't censored. hf should look at some context-based ish.
 
Curb your enthusiasm and South Park are still some of the shows to not care at all about being very pc. There is still a large market for comedy that isn't scared of not being pc.
 
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Satans Hockey said:
Curb your enthusiasm and South Park are still some of the shows to not care at all about being very pc. There is still a large market for comedy that isn't scared of not being pc.
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They’ve also been on TV for a long time, and shows that last that long tend to become sacred cows to critics. If Curb or South Park debuted two years ago, they would have gotten universally negative reviews for being insensitive, just like “Who Is America” did.
 
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Satans Hockey said:
Curb your enthusiasm and South Park are still some of the shows to not care at all about being very pc. There is still a large market for comedy that isn't scared of not being pc.
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the #cancelsouthpark hashtag is gold :laugh:

DevilDoggo said:
They’ve also been on TV for a long time, and shows that last that long tend to become sacred cows to critics. If Curb or South Park debuted two years ago, they would have gotten universally negative reviews for being insensitive, just like “Who Is America” did.
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my thing with "who is america?" (which is hilarious as hell) is that it's being panned because of *who* the butt of the insensitivity is, which inherently reinforces why the show exists.
 
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To put things into perspective: Nanette has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and is heralded as the future of comedy, in spite of the fact that it’s explicitly a critique of comedy and is much more of a one-woman show instead of a true stand-up special. Who Is America? has a 60% rating on RT, barely qualifying as fresh, and the vast majority of critics from clickbait pop culture sites have the same complaints: they think it’s “punching down” and they authoritatively declare that our political environment is too scary to laugh about. Never mind the fact that, from what I’ve heard, its message is just as important as your average political “comedy,” and it manages to be funny at the same time. Of course it’s uncomfortable- that’s the point.

I still need to watch it, though. I heard the first episode is uneven but it picks up after.
 
New Jersey said:
i don't understand this idea that comedy is ruined by PC culture.

then again, i go to comedy clubs in the city.
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I couldn't agree more.

Listening to guys like Bill Burr, Doug Stanhope, Chris Rock, Dave Chapelle, and Joe Rogan whine about "pc culture" taking anything away from current comedy is disingenuous at best. And they all tell the same sob stories about how they won't play college campuses anymore. Why the hell would you play Rutgers when you can sell out The Rock? All of these guys have more money and fame than Pryor, Carlin, Murphy and Dangerfield could have dreamed of in the 70's and every one of them says whatever the hell they want.

Jim Jefferies is one of the top 5 most offensive comedians of all time and the dude (deservedly imo) was rewarded with a sitcom and a late night talk show.
 
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OmNomNom said:
it's not ruined, but it's muted.

also, standup comedy is the last bastion for un-PC things - see dave chappelle. I listened to a podcast that basically said that people laugh uncomfortable things as a release of tension, and it helps when everyone else is laughing too. but the thing is, i feel like laughing at those uncomfortable things that tread near actual racism/sexism is a prime example of society's hypocrisy nowadays, and that, personally, bothers the hell out of me

like, i can't really even say that statement in public, since i'd probably get labelled as a racist/sexist outright for doing so
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Louis CK made Pootie Tang for Christ sake, not to mention he has entire bits where he says the N word, the F word, etc etc, and he reached just about the pinnacle of success in that industry. Jim Jefferies tells more rape jokes than I knew could even cross one persons mind.

It's just an obscenely false narrative imo.
 
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DevilDoggo said:
I have never seen Mean Girls and I don’t really want to. My girlfriend loves it, though.

My problem with today’s comedy isn’t PC-related, it’s that it feels more about having a message or speaking truth to power than about actually being funny. I agree with the politics of John Oliver for the most part, but watching his show feels like going to church, and it’s the same with a lot of late night TV. Comedy has always gone in phases, but I’m still waiting for audiences to get tired of this crap and it feels like that’s not gonna happen any time soon.
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comics are all taking the low hanging fruit. i don’t watch any of them (oliver, colbert, etc) but i get why they’re doing what they’re doing. today’s headlines are a goldmine
 
DevilDoggo said:
To put things into perspective: Nanette has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and is heralded as the future of comedy, in spite of the fact that it’s explicitly a critique of comedy and is much more of a one-woman show instead of a true stand-up special. Who Is America? has a 60% rating on RT, barely qualifying as fresh, and the vast majority of critics from clickbait pop culture sites have the same complaints: they think it’s “punching down” and they authoritatively declare that our political environment is too scary to laugh about. Never mind the fact that, from what I’ve heard, its message is just as important as your average political “comedy,” and it manages to be funny at the same time. Of course it’s uncomfortable- that’s the point.

I still need to watch it, though. I heard the first episode is uneven but it picks up after.
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Nanette is actually hilarious. Sure she gets overtly political and emotional at times, but that special definitely delivers. People like her and Tig Notaro finally have a seat at the table and all of a sudden comedy is ruined and too pc. F that noise.

And Who is America just isn't that good. It has its moments, and 60% may be a tad low, but there were entire episodes where I didn't laugh once. I do however vehemently disagree with critics claiming he was punching down though. It was SBC being SBC, mocking racist partisan idiots and attempting to get politicians to say and do dumb isht.
 
Jim Jeffries’ days of being a shock comedian have long passed. He’s just another political commentator disguised as a comedian now. He’s like Colbert and Oliver: he’s capable of being really funny if he wasn’t cynically going along with the current trend so he can have a steady TV presence. Never mind the fact that he had a show already- Legit, one of the most overlooked shows in recent years.

PC culture isn’t ruining comedy, that’s just a convenient scapegoat. What is ruining comedy is the trend that humor should be a secondary concern to a message about society.
 
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