50 goal pace
41 goals
27 goals
27 goals
38 goal pace
Yeah real awful stuff. And he’s locked in a whopping 2 more years. Boy, they’ll really struggle to get out of that one if they want to.
A trade is allowed to be good for both parties. I also think it’s premature for Sens fans to talk about their team not needing a ~40 goal scorer. You’re in the wildcards, not sitting in a divisional seed about to go for the threepeat.
You keep saying I am obsessed with the player but you keep the conversation going. I also said it ended up being a win win trade for both teams and at the time I thought that Detroit took the sens to the woodshed. Staios did a great job cleaning up one of many of Dorions mess's. Dorion is a terrible GM had he been gone 2 years earlier Ottawa would be in a way better situatoin. That being said I still wouldnt build a team in a cap world with this type of player at 9.5% of the cap and thats what he signed for at the time for 4 years.
In his last 6 seasons he has had.
18 goals
32 (in 52 games best year for him)
41
27
27
35
In those seasons he was
-10
+3
-13
-31
+1
-15
He is a minus player not its not the be all and end all stat but he doesn't drive play at 5 on 5. In the right situation he is a good fit at the right cap hit. I think if you are relying on him as a top player; your team ends up exactly where Detroit is. Not bad enough to be really bad but not good enough to be a playoff team. In the meaty middle.
Now he has certainly played better in Detroit than Ottawa. But if a player mails it in at this level playing in the best league in the world I am not sure you want a guy in your locker room that has that in him. Even if you dont want to be there, its disrespectful to the game and your peers. I wonder about how competitive a person is if they are capable of that in this sport.
I know this likely enrages many of you guys and I am not trying to get anyone going. This is my perspective on how I would build a team and how I evaluate how competitive players are which is also a major component to how I would build a team.
I think Detroit will have a top 5 D core in the very near future. Building from the back end out is also how I would build a team. I think they are on the right track, they need to find a way to get another 1A/1B center and a starting goalie. Once they do that they will be a contender and consistent playoff team. Raymond reminds me so much of Alfredsson they have great pieces. I think though that Yzerman needs to not just plug holes with veterans the way he has done. A different strategy is needed.
Kucherov and Kane say hello, members of the 2 most decorated teams in recent history.
Kucherov and Kane are not undersized im talking small. They are also all world players I dont think you believe that Debrincat is in the same category as them do you?
That's what I believe too, until proven wrong.
Hard to come to grips with that Ottawa is good eh. Too bad, I have no issue with Toronto and Montreal being good as a sens fan and if Detroit was good too I wouldnt be in denial.
