The Tank Megathread | 8 | The Tank Awakens

[tantalum]

Speaking of lower teams getting it together Rob Tychkowski had a couple of tweets yesterday following the Oilers-Isles game.

First one said that they were holding a players only meeting.

That was followed by: they are probably losing that meeting.

Despite the place they find themselves it may have been the first players only meeting they've held. Then again these players only meetings don't really amount to anything. The canucks had one or two earlier and they remain a 82 point pace team.

McDavid is looking upset though and he has several times this year. They can not afford to lose him to a trade demand so I imagine they will be making huge moves sooner rather than later.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

The top 10 is pretty well distributed after the first 3 names. Good place to be in this year.

Guys like Dubois and McLeod could end up being the best players in the draft.

 

[LeftCoast]

Last season, 3rd place in the Pacific (Calgary) finished with 97 points and the 2nd Wild Card slot in the Western Conference (Winnipeg) finished with 99 points. LA missed the playoffs with 95 points.

Currently, Anaheim is 3rd in the Pacific with 57 pts in 50 games, San Jose is in 2nd with 58 pts in 51 games. Colorado is in the 2nd Wild Card slot with 58 points. Anaheim is on a pace to finish with 93 points, but they had a horrid start. In the last 20 games, they are 14-4-2 (a .750 pace). If they cool off a bit and finish the last 32 games on a .600 pace, they will end up with 95 points. Colorado, currently the 2nd Wild Card is on a .530 pace on the season and at the same pace will finish with 87 points.

The Canucks, with only 16 ROW lose the tie breaker to every team in the league except Toronto (14) which is not in our Conference (even Edmonton has 17). We can probably forget about 3rd in the Pacific as finishing with 96 pts would mean finishing the season 22-8-0. At current pace, making the last wild card spot would mean 88 points, so we would have to finish the season 18-12-0. Does anyone think this is likely?


Last season, the 5th worst record was Carolina with 71 points. Currently Winnipeg has that slot with 49 points in 52 games. Calgary is next with 49 pts in 51 games. If Winnipeg continues on their current 0.470 pace, they will finish the season with 77 points. Calgary will finish with 80 points on current pace. So to finish tied with Winnipeg and drop into the 5th worse record in the league (due to 16 ROW), we have to finish the season 12-17-1 (.416 pace).

Given that current we are a .500 team, to make the playoffs we have to go .600 the rest of the way, to slip into a top 5 draft position we have to go .416.

In short, we are closer to a top 5 pick than the playoffs.

 

[Flik]

Those are some nice numbers LeftCoast. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a .350 finish.

 

[CanaFan]

Last season, 3rd place in the Pacific (Calgary) finished with 97 points and the 2nd Wild Card slot in the Western Conference (Winnipeg) finished with 99 points. LA missed the playoffs with 95 points.

Currently, Anaheim is 3rd in the Pacific with 57 pts in 50 games, San Jose is in 2nd with 58 pts in 51 games. Colorado is in the 2nd Wild Card slot with 58 points. Anaheim is on a pace to finish with 93 points, but they had a horrid start. In the last 20 games, they are 14-4-2 (a .750 pace). If they cool off a bit and finish the last 32 games on a .600 pace, they will end up with 95 points. Colorado, currently the 2nd Wild Card is on a .530 pace on the season and at the same pace will finish with 87 points.

The Canucks, with only 16 ROW lose the tie breaker to every team in the league except Toronto (14) which is not in our Conference (even Edmonton has 17). We can probably forget about 3rd in the Pacific as finishing with 96 pts would mean finishing the season 22-8-0. At current pace, making the last wild card spot would mean 88 points, so we would have to finish the season 18-12-0. Does anyone think this is likely?


Last season, the 5th worst record was Carolina with 71 points. Currently Winnipeg has that slot with 49 points in 52 games. Calgary is next with 49 pts in 51 games. If Winnipeg continues on their current 0.470 pace, they will finish the season with 77 points. Calgary will finish with 80 points on current pace. So to finish tied with Winnipeg and drop into the 5th worse record in the league (due to 16 ROW), we have to finish the season 12-17-1 (.416 pace).

Given that current we are a .500 team, to make the playoffs we have to go .600 the rest of the way, to slip into a top 5 draft position we have to go .416.

In short, we are closer to a top 5 pick than the playoffs.

Great stuff and a sobering dose of reality for those who still haven't figured this team out. Time to grow up and start dealing with the real world instead of fantastic alternatives where we go 2012 LA Kings on the league.

 

[ihaveyuidonttouchme]

hmmm Pieterangelo out x3 wks, McDonaugh out for awhile
guess who's value just went up

 

[VanJack]

Yes, with some serious sell-offs at the deadline and equal ice-time for the kids, a .350 winning percentage isn't out of the question for the last 25 games....more likely .400 - .450, which still lands us a pretty decent lottery pick....Pierre Lebrun on the morning Bro' Jake radio show says this would be a good year for the Canucks 'to take a knee' down the stretch.

 

[Amused To Death]

...First one said that they were holding a players only meeting...

OT a bit, but, remember where we would get destroyed by Chicago early in the year, and then have a player meeting, and then our season would really get going?

Oh how far we've come!

 

[tantalum]

hmmm Pieterangelo out x3 wks, McDonaugh out for awhile
guess who's value just went up

Also Byfuglien just signed an extension.

 

[VanJack]

hmmm Pieterangelo out x3 wks, McDonaugh out for awhile
guess who's value just went up

Yessiree Bob!....d-men are dropping like flies...JB should be able to get a King's ransom for Hammer....but then before we get carried away, it is Benning we're talking about.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Should be able to get a first for Hamhuis from one of those teams now.

 

[Evolu7ion]

So Lebrun just said if you're a true Canucks fan you should want them to miss the playoffs this year, reinforcing the fact that team tank is looking out for the best interests of this franchise after all

 

[Trelane]

Should be able to get a first for Hamhuis from one of those teams now.

Let's do this.

Expecting a 1st and a B prospect for Hammer, "arguably the most coveted D man" come deadline (AM1040). Vrby should still haul in a late 2nd. We can always be sporting about it and eat salary.

Don't much care for picks 4-7 for our big name players even as equalizers. Less than 10% of players play 300 NHL games, and about 5% go on to be top 6/4. Same odds for those late rounds.

Wouldn't deal Hansen save BIG time overpayment.

 

[CanaFan]

So Lebrun just said if you're a true Canucks fan you should want them to miss the playoffs this year, reinforcing the fact that team tank is looking out for the best interests of this franchise after all

Wish this was a tweet so I could go post it in the anti tank thread. I can handle the disagreement over opinions but the smug "you're not a real fan" attitude is a real piss off.

 

[HankNDank]

Wish this was a tweet so I could go post it in the anti tank thread. I can handle the disagreement over opinions but the smug "you're not a real fan" attitude is a real piss off.

Pot, meet the kettle.

 

[Flik]

As far as I am concerned, anyone that is taking the time to post on a hockey forum is a "true" fan of the game/team/whatever. Let's not sling mud at "the other side". (not saying anyone is slinging mud)

 

[Breakers]

Hamuis's Value after the Byfuglien contract.



Thanks Winnipeg for making guys like Polak, and Hamhuis just that much more Valuable.

 

[CanaFan]

Pot, meet the kettle.

Wanting to debunk the opinion that "tankers aren't real fans" is hypocritical?

Not sure I follow ...

 

[DFAC]

Wish this was a tweet so I could go post it in the anti tank thread. I can handle the disagreement over opinions but the smug "you're not a real fan" attitude is a real piss off.

This post is a little hypocritical, no?

 

[HankNDank]

Wanting to debunk the opinion that "tankers aren't real fans" is hypocritical?

Not sure I follow ...

Wanting to post a link to a group of people who you know shares a contrarian view as you to try and change their minds/prove they are wrong/prove your idea is the best doesn't come off as smug to you?

 

[vanarchy]

Last season, 3rd place in the Pacific (Calgary) finished with 97 points and the 2nd Wild Card slot in the Western Conference (Winnipeg) finished with 99 points. LA missed the playoffs with 95 points.

Currently, Anaheim is 3rd in the Pacific with 57 pts in 50 games, San Jose is in 2nd with 58 pts in 51 games. Colorado is in the 2nd Wild Card slot with 58 points. Anaheim is on a pace to finish with 93 points, but they had a horrid start. In the last 20 games, they are 14-4-2 (a .750 pace). If they cool off a bit and finish the last 32 games on a .600 pace, they will end up with 95 points. Colorado, currently the 2nd Wild Card is on a .530 pace on the season and at the same pace will finish with 87 points.

The Canucks, with only 16 ROW lose the tie breaker to every team in the league except Toronto (14) which is not in our Conference (even Edmonton has 17). We can probably forget about 3rd in the Pacific as finishing with 96 pts would mean finishing the season 22-8-0. At current pace, making the last wild card spot would mean 88 points, so we would have to finish the season 18-12-0. Does anyone think this is likely?


Last season, the 5th worst record was Carolina with 71 points. Currently Winnipeg has that slot with 49 points in 52 games. Calgary is next with 49 pts in 51 games. If Winnipeg continues on their current 0.470 pace, they will finish the season with 77 points. Calgary will finish with 80 points on current pace. So to finish tied with Winnipeg and drop into the 5th worse record in the league (due to 16 ROW), we have to finish the season 12-17-1 (.416 pace).

Given that current we are a .500 team, to make the playoffs we have to go .600 the rest of the way, to slip into a top 5 draft position we have to go .416.

In short, we are closer to a top 5 pick than the playoffs.

I need posts like these.

Thank you.

 

[WhiteCurse]

Desjardin has lost them.

And iam hoping horvat and a few others are aware they got something special with a lottery pick or two.

Players dont try to lose. But they do stop playing hard when the coach is clueless.

After our response to calgary i think the season is over. Just pray the dice give us laine.

You think the players are thinking about a high pick ? Your out of your mind. If these guys had a mentality like that they would be plugging away in the minors or no longer in hockey. Losers think like that

 

[MikeK]

Hamuis's Value after the Byfuglien contract.



Thanks Winnipeg for making guys like Polak, and Hamhuis just that much more Valuable.

Came here to post the same. With big Buff off the table that should no doubt increase interest. With more interest comes more value..

 

[Breakers]

You think the players are thinking about a high pick ? Your out of your mind. If these guys had a mentality like that they would be plugging away in the minors or no longer in hockey. Losers think like that

I agree no player in the league could give two sh__s about the next player their team drafts.

The nucks just put 3 players on waivers, so there is little room to show a tanking effort or you'll be in the press box.

Most players could maybe name 3 players in the current draft stock.

 

[CanaFan]

Wanting to post a link to a group of people who you know shares a contrarian view as you to try and change their minds/prove they are wrong/prove your idea is the best doesn't come off as smug to you?

Most debates on these boards are able to stay within the confines of the topic being debated without resorting to personal attacks. For some reason the "tank/don't tank" debate is unable to do so and usually veers into "tanking is for losers" and "if you cheer for losses you aren't a real fan". Ive personally never resorted to questioning someone's "fandom" as a means of arguing a point and IMO having to resort to as pathetic as it is irritating. Wanting to present Lebrun's opinion as a way of refuting this viewpoint doesn't strike me as at all hypocritical since I wasn't the one who resorted to that low level in the first place.

So to answer your initial question, no it doesn't strike me as smug in the slightest.