The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step

[Rapala]

Wow +/- what a wonderfully worthless stat, wanna talk about how he's a bad dresser as well while we're at it.

LOL
There is a reason the stat is kept you know.
Basically at this point it means Dach is not having success with anyone 5v5.
He looks shit out there because he is shit out there it's not a case of him eating negatives because of anyone else.
When he starts playing better he won't get noticed for the wrong reasons that's how it works that's how it's always worked.

 

[Demigod]

Imagine you are Hugues and Gorton what are you next 5 moves ?

Can you dress me a list of the next things we need to do to make the Habs contender in the long run?

Im very curious!

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Imagine you are Hugues and Gorton what are you next 5 moves ?

Can you dress me a list of the next things we need to do to make the Habs contender in the long run?

Im very curious!

#1 Draft Schaefer
#2 Trade Armia, Savard and Dvorak this season, for scraps i don't care just get rid of them.
#3 Bring in a solid veteran D-Man and a solid veteran forward or two
#4 Pray that Demidov becomes elite, pray for Hage to workout
#5 Anderson will be the last anchor contract to move. Once he's gone bring in a star UFA player to complete the roster

 

[Demigod]

#1 Draft Schaefer
#2 Trade Armia, Savard and Dvorak this season, for scraps i don't care just get rid of them.
#3 Bring in a solid veteran D-Man and a solid veteran forward or two
#4 Pray that Demidov becomes elite, pray for Hage to workout
#5 Anderson will be the last anchor contract to move. Once he's gone bring in a star UFA player to complete the roster

And trade wise which players/prospects are untouchables?

 

[HabbyGuy]

Imagine you are Hugues and Gorton what are you next 5 moves ?

Can you dress me a list of the next things we need to do to make the Habs contender in the long run?

Im very curious!

1. Stay the course, remain patient, get a good look at what we have and what we need as the season unfolds.

2. Continue to draft strong and keep emphasis on development of our picks.

3. Try and fill holes revealed after this season after getting better read on situation. Either via trade (with our impressive capital) or free agency (with our healthier cap situation)

4. Wait for some help to arrive in terms of prospects already drafted.

5. Don't do anything stupid and make a panic move to try and appease neurotic rabid fanbase.

6. Give Marty, the guy the players love playing for, and has worked diligently with since his arrival, the time he deserves to prove if he can or can't get the job done.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

And trade wise which players/prospects are untouchables?

I think this is our core moving forward:

Suzuki
Caufield
Slafkovsky
Demidov
Hage
Beck
Guhle
Hutson
Mailloux
Reinbacher
2025 top 5 pick

I would hold on to these guys. It's possible a couple other of our young guys could be added, Heineman, Kapanen.. Roy.. Engström..

 

[dcyhabs]

It's crazy that the same posters/media members saying that regression is acceptable and the expectation for a rebuild were also the most vocal that this team wasn't going to be in the bottom-5 this season.

We need more accountability around here and not just with the players

A lot of people thought they would be better. Panic firings and short term trades are not a good next move, regardless of how disappointed you are.

 

[Demigod]

1. Stay the course, remain patient, get a good look at what we have and what we need as the season unfolds.

2. Continue to draft strong and keep emphasis on development of our picks.

3. Try and fill holes revealed after this season after getting better read on situation. Either via trade (with our impressive capital) or free agency (with our healthier cap situation)

4. Wait for some help to arrive in terms of prospects already drafted.

5. Don't do anything stupid and make a panic move to try and appease neurotic rabid fanbase.

Im all in with your analysis. Gonna be hard for the high management not to fall for immediate help to calm the fans. They need to stick to their plans, even if its mean having fans and media against you. Thats not an easy task in a big market like Montreal

 

[dcyhabs]

And trade wise which players/prospects are untouchables?

Haven’t winning teams proven that there are no untouchables? You can trade anyone as long as you win.

Most of the habs players are young, so they are unlikely to return value in trades. It’s not do much that they shouldn’t ever be traded as that there probably wouldn’t be a good path to do so.

 

[HabbyGuy]

A lot of people thought they would be better. Panic firings and short term trades are not a good next move, regardless of how disappointed you are.

There's also plenty of time for improvement, we've already seen a gradual difference from October to November. It's a long season.

 

[Sorinth]

Imagine you are Hugues and Gorton what are you next 5 moves ?

Can you dress me a list of the next things we need to do to make the Habs contender in the long run?

Im very curious!

Next 5 moves aren't likely going to be the things that make the Habs a contender, ie dumping Dvorak is probably going to be one of those next 5 moves, needs to be done, but is rather meaningless in terms of turning us into a contender.

As for what long term we need to be a contender, we need some combination of better scoring, better defence, better goaltending. We are at a point where we kind of still need to wait and see because some of that is already going to move forward without any moves. For example Demidov coming over, and being a game breaker, it's not happening this year, and it might take a couple years for him to really hit his stride and be dominant. But it's anyones guess as to whether that will be enough to move our offence from middle of the pack (19th currently) to say top-5.

 

[Demigod]

Haven’t winning teams proven that there are no untouchables? You can trade anyone as long as you win.

Most of the habs players are young, so they are unlikely to return value in trades. It’s not do much that they shouldn’t ever be traded as that there probably wouldn’t be a good path to do so.

We just having fun. I know nobody is untouchable. If Gretzky was trade everybody can be trade.

But in your opinion which players in the rosters would you consider your core going forward. Putting in consideration that the Habs would probably be contender in 5 years minimum

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We just having fun. I know nobody is untouchable. If Gretzky was trade everybody can be trade.

But in your opinion which players in the rosters would you consider your core going forward. Putting in consideration that the Habs would probably be contender in 5 years minimum

Core players
Suzuki, Cc, Slaf, Demidov
Guhle, Hutson, RB
Fowler

Hopefully Big contributors
Roy, Beck, Hage (I would’ve had Dach here but he’s now a big question mark.)
Mallioux
Montie

Great group of young players. We need some size in the top six.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

1. Stay the course, remain patient, get a good look at what we have and what we need as the season unfolds.

2. Continue to draft strong and keep emphasis on development of our picks.

3. Try and fill holes revealed after this season after getting better read on situation. Either via trade (with our impressive capital) or free agency (with our healthier cap situation)

4. Wait for some help to arrive in terms of prospects already drafted.

5. Don't do anything stupid and make a panic move to try and appease neurotic rabid fanbase.

6. Give Marty, the guy the players love playing for, and has worked diligently with since his arrival, the time he deserves to prove if he can or can't get the job done.

Neurotic is a tad insulting, even though it's probably right.


I'd rather stay polite and say 'desperate for instant gratification'.