TV: The Sopranos Discussion Thread

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So? Hes barred from the place.

Lol I know I keep drifting into different great quotes but this convo is reminding me of so many great ones. I think one of my favorites in the series is when Tony and Carm separate and Tony is talking to Sil about how awesome it is.

Tony: It's great I go out till anytime, I f*** anyone I want it's great

Sil: So what's different ?

Tony: Ahh I dunno it just is

I dont remember the actual lines but it was a convo that always stuck with me and made me laugh.
 
Lol I know I keep drifting into different great quotes but this convo is reminding me of so many great ones. I think one of my favorites in the series is when Tony and Carm separate and Tony is talking to Sil about how awesome it is.

Tony: It's great I go out till anytime, I f*** anyone I want it's great

Sil: So what's different ?

Tony: Ahh I dunno it just is

I dont remember the actual lines but it was a convo that always stuck with me and made me laugh.
Yah Sil was like "So, whats the difference?" Tony responds with " I dunno its a mind set" haha. Such a great show.
 
Just started this show again. Watched it before but I fell off at the start of season 4, I have a hard time finishing series.

Gotta say though, Christopher really is a great example of a tragic character. I can't help but feel sorry for the guy.
 
Just finished a rewatch. Hadn't rewatched an episode since its original run ended so it's been a while. A few thoughts.

1. It holds up! In the great The Wire vs. The Sopranos debate I've always been a Wire guy. Still am. BUT it's a closer argument than I was giving it credit for past times I've been in those conversations. The things I held against The Sopranos (mostly how it felt like it really spun its wheels at times) didn't bother me nearly as much. Probably due a little to watching it in chunks of episodes now versus the ol' wait every week method.

2. Another TV comparison. Tony and Walter White are often lumped together as bad guys who've been misinterpreted by fans who think they're cool. But unlike Walter and Breaking Bad, the writers on The Sopranos always have Tony in a pretty dark light. There are times you like him and sympathize with him but they never let it get too out of hand. He's a bad, damaged man. Not an anti-hero. That's versus Breaking Bad where sure Walt is mean to his wife, but he's also a supervillain who sets cool traps to kill cartel leaders and neo-Nazis and gets a tidy redemption arc in the end. (I like Breaking Bad, but the creative team there is super disingenuous when they try to tell folks to not like/enjoy Walt). I don't think The Sopranos deserves any criticism on that front.

3. It's a given that Gandolfini and Falco are all timers. Bracco, Imperioli and Chianese are good too. But the two performers who really POPPED for me on rewatch were Drea di Mateo and Aida Turturro. Adrianna starts as a kinda nothing character and becomes maybe the most sympathetic character in the series, largely due to the performance. Janice is pretty detestable from day one as a character but man does Turturro absolutely bring it.

4. I appreciate the role dreams play in the show. But man the depictions are a lot of super literal, corny bullshit. They have this sheen of faux-surrealness but then someone says something or something happens that is very literal to what's happening at the moment. It's hacky writing for a show that's often better. It's David Lynch for dummies.

5. Two of the more irritating running subplots at points in the seires -- Vito, whatever AJ's bullshit of the moment was -- didn't bother me as much. I wouldn't say either are any more compelling, but I appreciated them more as examples of collateral damage of the life. Add examples to deepen the story.

6. Paulie Walnuts is and will always be comedy gold.
 
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Just finished a rewatch. Hadn't rewatched an episode since its original run ended so it's been a while. A few thoughts.

1. It holds up! In the great The Wire vs. The Sopranos debate I've always been a Wire guy. Still am. BUT it's a closer argument than I was giving it credit for past times I've been in those conversations. The things I held against The Sopranos (mostly how it felt like it really spun its wheels at times) didn't bother me nearly as much. Probably due a little to watching it in chunks of episodes now versus the ol' wait every week method.

2. Another TV comparison. Tony and Walter White are often lumped together as bad guys who've been misinterpreted by fans who think they're cool. But unlike Walter and Breaking Bad, the writers on The Sopranos always have Tony in a pretty dark light. There are times you like him and sympathize with him but they never let it get too out of hand. He's a bad, damaged man. Not an anti-hero. That's versus Breaking Bad where sure Walt is mean to his wife, but he's also a supervillain who sets cool traps to kill cartel leaders and neo-Nazis and gets a tidy redemption arc in the end. (I like Breaking Bad, but the creative team there is super disingenuous when they try to tell folks to not like/enjoy Walt). I don't think The Sopranos deserves any criticism on that front.

3. It's a given that Gandolfini and Falco are all timers. Bracco, Imperioli and Chianese are good too. But the two performers who really POPPED for me on rewatch were Drea di Mateo and Aida Turturro. Adrianna starts as a kinda nothing character and becomes maybe the most sympathetic character in the series, largely due to the performance. Janice is pretty detestable from day one as a character but man does Turturro absolutely bring it.

4. I appreciate the role dreams play in the show. But man the depictions are a lot of super literal, corny bullshit. They have this sheen of faux-surrealness but then someone says something or something happens that is very literal to what's happening at the moment. It's hacky writing for a show that's often better. It's David Lynch for dummies.

5. Two of the more irritating running subplots at points in the seires -- Vito, whatever AJ's bullshit of the moment was -- didn't bother me as much. I wouldn't say either are any more compelling, but I appreciated them more as examples of collateral damage of the life. Add examples to deepen the story.

6. Paulie Walnuts is and will always be comedy gold.

Vito's arc is great because you get that great inner monologue scene where he's trying to hold off looking at his watch while doing actual construction work for the first time in his life and when he does end up looking, it's like 10H42AM.
 
Just finished a rewatch. Hadn't rewatched an episode since its original run ended so it's been a while. A few thoughts.

1. It holds up! In the great The Wire vs. The Sopranos debate I've always been a Wire guy. Still am. BUT it's a closer argument than I was giving it credit for past times I've been in those conversations. The things I held against The Sopranos (mostly how it felt like it really spun its wheels at times) didn't bother me nearly as much. Probably due a little to watching it in chunks of episodes now versus the ol' wait every week method.

2. Another TV comparison. Tony and Walter White are often lumped together as bad guys who've been misinterpreted by fans who think they're cool. But unlike Walter and Breaking Bad, the writers on The Sopranos always have Tony in a pretty dark light. There are times you like him and sympathize with him but they never let it get too out of hand. He's a bad, damaged man. Not an anti-hero. That's versus Breaking Bad where sure Walt is mean to his wife, but he's also a supervillain who sets cool traps to kill cartel leaders and neo-Nazis and gets a tidy redemption arc in the end. (I like Breaking Bad, but the creative team there is super disingenuous when they try to tell folks to not like/enjoy Walt). I don't think The Sopranos deserves any criticism on that front.

3. It's a given that Gandolfini and Falco are all timers. Bracco, Imperioli and Chianese are good too. But the two performers who really POPPED for me on rewatch were Drea di Mateo and Aida Turturro. Adrianna starts as a kinda nothing character and becomes maybe the most sympathetic character in the series, largely due to the performance. Janice is pretty detestable from day one as a character but man does Turturro absolutely bring it.

4. I appreciate the role dreams play in the show. But man the depictions are a lot of super literal, corny bullshit. They have this sheen of faux-surrealness but then someone says something or something happens that is very literal to what's happening at the moment. It's hacky writing for a show that's often better. It's David Lynch for dummies.

5. Two of the more irritating running subplots at points in the seires -- Vito, whatever AJ's bullshit of the moment was -- didn't bother me as much. I wouldn't say either are any more compelling, but I appreciated them more as examples of collateral damage of the life. Add examples to deepen the story.

6. Paulie Walnuts is and will always be comedy gold.
Have you heard the good news
 
Vito's arc is great because you get that great inner monologue scene where he's trying to hold off looking at his watch while doing actual construction work for the first time in his life and when he does end up looking, it's like 10H42AM.
The show’s always been extremely relatable for me growing up in an Italian American family, but this scene is probably the single most relatable thing I’ve ever seen on television
Have you heard the good news
He has risen
 
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That episode with Paulie and Chrissy lost in the woods is one of the best episodes ever, and I'm pretty sure that was meant to be a filler episode
 
I've been watching Paulie scenes the last hour or so but there's one in particular I can't find. I can't remember who he's talking but he asks the guy how is he doing. The other guy starts answering and Paulie says something like "whoa I didn't ask for your life story". I don't remember the exact words but it was something like this. I just remember Paulie's delivery was hilarious.

Anyone know what I'm referring to?

Edit: nevermind, it came to me as soon as I submitted this post. It's this scene:

 
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People are severely overlooking the fact that David Chase just liked to do weird shit.
Yup - and he left a lot of shit hanging/unanswered.

For example 'Pine Barrens' my favorite episode - everything that went down with the Russians just was a figment of someones imagination since absolutely nothing ever became of that fiasco.
 
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That episode with Paulie and Chrissy lost in the woods is one of the best episodes ever, and I'm pretty sure that was meant to be a filler episode
I don't think I'd call it filler. On site shooting for probably days?

Bottle episode bud. Let's not get the terminology wrong.
 

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