Yeah he kind of nailed the post coke bloat era Waylon a few years early.
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Yeah, it's f***ed up on a whole multitude of levels.NEUROSIS's SCOTT KELLY Admits To Abusing Wife And Children, Announces Retirement From Music
NEUROSIS's founding guitarist/vocalist Scott Kelly has publicly admitted to engaging in "the emotional, financial, verbal and physical abuse" of his wife and children. The 55-year-old has also announced that he is "100% permanently retired from being a professional musician," adding that "my...
This is an absolutely insane statement..
Yeah, it's f***ed up on a whole multitude of levels.
Also I feel like we all should have seen this one coming after Will Butler suddenly left the band and the Arcade Fire got really into Crypto/NFTs all of a sudden.
Arcade Fire’s Win Butler Accused of Sexual Misconduct by Multiple Women; Frontman Responds
Allegations of inappropriate behavior in his life offstage contrast with Butler’s virtuous public reputation. In lengthy comments, the frontman claims his extramarital relationships were consensual.pitchfork.com
Tons probably. But a lot of them also aren't marketing themselves as these pillars of the community like Win has been for decades.
It's kind of creepy and weird if you're like 40 and they're 18, but hey, that's fine if everyone agrees to it. If they don't well, that's f***ed up. If it's a situation where you're getting burned because you're cheating on your wife with an 18 year old who suddenly doesn't like what you're doing, then you dumb and you should take what's coming to you. None of this is illegal, incidentally, although pressuring or forcing yourself on someone should be and is punishable by law. I do think it's really sus to rely on your public standing to silence and intimidate and manipulate the people you had an affair with because you don't want it to get out, though. If Win had been more public about it, I'd buy the "I was in a dark place" defense a whole lot more.
Yeah, I don't think he's grooming per se, though there are obviously some really high profile cases of that happening (including one that's on trial right now). But you and I have both been in parts of the biz, so I think we're coming from the same place. Personally, I don't think I want to spend time with an 18 year old because it just makes me feel old and sad.
But yeah, making music, performing, recording, touring, and even trying to go back to a normal life after the show ends is really really REALLY difficult. Very few musicians manage it.
Yeah, I don't think he's grooming per se, though there are obviously some really high profile cases of that happening (including one that's on trial right now). But you and I have both been in parts of the biz, so I think we're coming from the same place. Personally, I don't think I want to spend time with an 18 year old because it just makes me feel old and sad.
I will say, there are definitely musicians who did/do something similar but with more consent and everyone ends up pretty happy. And we don't hear about those for a reason.
But that's partially the backlash to Win marketing himself as The Righteous Dude for two decades. I don't think his case is nearly comparable with the R. Kelly or Ian Watkins horrorshows, or even Ryan Adams' shittiness.
I think the bigger thing is that these aren't like tour situations-- this is a dude inviting people to his bar/restaurant and holding his position as a big name over their heads, implicitly or not. That's what seems to be the unifying characteristic behind these visceral reactions to these. And man, when it's someone you know in your city, swimming in your pond, I definitely get how it reads different.
Oh absolutely. Especially because he torpedoed or tried to torpedo people's careers over it.
You must be the one in HR
