Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part III (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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Kakko has diabetes and celiac disease. Had to look up celiac disease. Kakko can't eat gluten.



Kalle Kaskinen is a co-owner of TPS. He played junior hockey with Saku Koivu.
Kaskinen is the coach (hopefully gone after next season), he has no part in the ownership of TPS.

Also, I think if Kakko has been this good with diabetes and celiac disease, it wont be a problem. In fact, whem he is moving to a big organization like the Rangers, I'm pretty sure they can hire a private cook for him if need be.
 
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Kaskinen is the coach (hopefully gone after next season), he has no part in the ownership of TPS.

Also, I think if Kakko has been this good with diabetes and celiac disease, it wont be a problem. In fact, whem he is moving to a big organization like the Rangers, I'm pretty sure they can hire a private cook for him if need be.
He won't be the only NHL players with diabetes anyways. Pretty sure Domi and a few others were born with it, as well. It's a non-issue in terms of having a successful career.
 
200% chance that the Devils are drafting Hughes. We Kakko now.

how is NYR prospect pool looking, I know there is Kratsov but not aware of others

Well yeah that's the thing isn't it. It's always numbers and people don't really care to dig down beneath the surface - in this case the digits. He was very fortunate not only to have an excellent US born players around all throughout the year from the USHL to the U18 WJHCs. I'm not even sure when's the last time this has happened where USA having as dominant generation in general. Needless to say that boosted him up and of course vice versa.

But still, mind-boggling? Breaking a record with most points in the U18s is great as well as breaking the NTDP record. But then again should we look at U18 World Juniors top 10 point record holders, we can see 3 Finns there, Granlund, Pulkkinen and Rajala. Hughes actually had 4 points more than Pulkkinen who played 2 less games. How great of a player did Pulkkinen become, let alone Rajala? Ha. I watched Nylander dominate and Puljujärvi absolutely demolish this tournament not so long ago. If Hughes was so sensational, then why was he nothing more than a shadow in the U20s? I'll answer for you. He didn't have the tools against the physical demands and this so called 110% sure bonafide center superstar has a lot left to figure out if he even wants a chance to stay in the big league next year. With that said, Kakko actually delivered and despite of him breaking records too, I don't consider his season extra-ordinary either. At least Hughes won't be losing a third gold medal game straight against him this time around. But then again, that's got nothing to do with him.

I guess we have different standards for what's mind-boggling. Laine's season in 2015-16 was that and then some. At first dominating and winning gold in the U20 WJC, then leading a professional team to playoff trophy by being selected as the MVP and lastly followed by another MVP from men's World Championships. Now that is mind-blowing. Oh well, I suppose Hughes still has the chance to prove himself worthy against better and older competition in the WHC, but if he's racking up points thanks to team mates pawing him open space on the ice, I won't certainly be overlooking that, but I wouldn't be surprised if half of the hockey world ignore it and just focused on what's Hughes' PPG today.

Generational? Sigh. Why are people even bringing this up every damn year. There should be like more than a dozen generational players in the league should we have 1 or 2 coming every year. I think they're both great players though. While I think Hughes can improve his shot to at least an average level, his size might prevent him from breaking into the absolute top end forwards. Stepping into the small rink at 170lbs? Geez, I'd get cold shivers just from the thought of it. However the game is evolving so maybe there's some hope for that yet. Kakko on the other hand doesn't seem to have any glaring concerns and will only get stronger and better, thus seems a more logical choice.

The NYR will win this draft simply by not having to draft first and deal with the media pressure.

These are going to extremely interesting WHCs as it will reveal some things. Like Kakko is dominating against NHL players, Hughes is still just a boy.. The fact is no matter how much better Kakko plays it wont make a slightest difference. Watching NJD marketing it's obvious the decision is already made.
 
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Brooks is just trolling. Jack Hughes had a great game for the US too, NJ will pick him for sure, if they don't I would be glad about it, if they don't I won't care about it one bit.

Zibanejad is in the studio for Swedish TV. Ex Legion of Doom Renberg compared Kakko to Forsberg, Renberg loves how har Kakko competes on the ice. Zibanejad broke in and said that he did think Kakko reminded him a lot more of Matthews. Big guy who still is really skilled. I also think Kakko, like without the puck, reminds me a lot of Matthews. He works so hard to get it back and is effective at it. Also a big guy who has a lot of skill.

Its amazing how fast Kakko process the game and how aware and sharp he can be out there. He is special in that regard.

If we look at guys like Elias Pettersson, Johnny Hockey, Erik Karlsson and the likes, and what makes them so special, its really how quick they thinks on the ice and how calm and level headed they are. You have very small marginals, just expose yourself and the puck a tiny bit and defenders will jump on the opportunity and you will have to spend the entire shift in your own. The game is also so fast, your equipment takes away som mobility and vision, you only have eyes in the front of your head, when you go to the boards you don't see much of the ice. I don't think physical aspects are that important for hockey players that are used to get hit, but you do put your body and health on the line too.

For 99,9999999% of humanity this means that high pressure situations on the ice are really chaotic. Elias Pettersson sometimes look like he has a pulse short of 50 on the ice. Kakko isn't like that, but he is still so really composed and heady on the ice.
 
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I've always liked Kakko, and he has grown a lot on me lately. But up until yesterday I still thought that ceilling was more like Toews/Staal on the wing type, without maybe the environment those guys always had been in -- if that makes any sense. I.e. not really a top 10-15 individual in the world, but someone that still can be a leader and winner in this league.

Now I am starting to consider if he might not have potential to become a Matthews type i.e. someone that might become a top 10-15 individual too in the NHL. Love it! :)
 
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Let them take kakko we’ll take jack friggen Hughes lol.

Listen there’s no lose here. If anything kakko closing the gap this much just makes it more that there are two elite kids worthy of first overall status in a year we’ve got the 2nd overall pick.

Pitt did quite well getting Malkin after Ovechkin went to Washington.

Hughes and Mika would be tremendous.
 
It's a no lose situation. What is apparent watching the World's, is Hughes needs some maturing/strength. He gets knocked off the puck and to the ice so easily. Highly skilled, but in a playoff type game, he might disappear.
 
It's a no lose situation. What is apparent watching the World's, is Hughes needs some maturing/strength. He gets knocked off the puck and to the ice so easily. Highly skilled, but in a playoff type game, he might disappear.

I mean maybe for his first few years but that's not why you select a guy first overall. You look at his development path, eventually he will get man strength and muscle mass, everyone does.
 
how is NYR prospect pool looking, I know there is Kratsov but not aware of others


I’m sure someone else has already answered but our other best prospects are Igor Shestyorkin a russian goalie who dominated in the KHL the last couple seasons , Adam Fox who we just acquired in a trade, and K’Andre Miller an NCAA d-man who just finished a great freshman season but got injured
 
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I’m sure someone else has already answered but our other best prospects are Igor Shestyorkin a russian goalie who dominated in the KHL the last couple seasons , Adam Fox who we just acquired in a trade, and K’Andre Miller an NCAA d-man who just finished a great freshman season but got injured

And Nils Lundkvist who played a pretty big role on a top team in Sweden especially near the end of the season
 
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Zibanejad broke in and said that he did think Kakko reminded him a lot more of Matthews. Big guy who still is really skilled. I also think Kakko, like without the puck, reminds me a lot of Matthews. He works so hard to get it back and is effective at it. Also a big guy who has a lot of skill.

Its amazing how fast Kakko process the game and how aware and sharp he can be out there. He is special in that regard.

If we look at guys like Elias Pettersson, Johnny Hockey, Erik Karlsson and the likes, and what makes them so special, its really how quick they thinks on the ice and how calm and level headed they are.

Nonsense. Ippenator on the prospect board said that kakko has bad IQ and he was right about something that one time. Well...kudos to that guy for not being dumb enough to bring his crap here. I thought we'd be infested with the terrible, overzealous finn fans from the mains by now too. They're like the one army in game of thrones. Massive, loud, brutal and they leave you shaking your head in disappointment and frustration
 
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