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Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part II (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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Machinehead said:
Kaapo apparently translates to Gabriel.

Finnish is beyond my comprehension.
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Name translations have always fascinated me.

Steven in French is Etienne which never made sense to me. But Finnish names take the cake man.

Valtteri = Walter
Lauri = Lawrence
Antti = Andrew
Jukka = John
Taneli = Daniel
Seppo = Sebastian
Santeri = Alexander

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kelsier said:
Well just last year Kakko was playmaker and certainly wasn't considered as one of the better goal scorers. So maybe the tables turn yet again come another year?

He's not a pure sniper. It may seem so because he had to do much of the scoring by himself (cause the rest of the team was so s**t), but believe me, once he gets players closer to his level around him Kakko will be getting assists much more than he scores goals.
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Kakko is the go-to player on his team and line this season. He is trusted when he wants to circle the ice with the puck on his stick and he's been great at reading where the puck is going to go. I think this spike in G/A ratio has a lot to do with him being allowed to puck handle as he wants and a growth in how he reads the game. He always seems to meet the puck in the dangerous parts of the ice.

I don't think he's a pure sniper, my read is that he's a very complete forward with a great shot who has been trusted to retain puck possession, drive the net, and create chances. Also, playing on a line with Oula Palve who's a bit of a late blooming playmaker probably had a lot to do with getting more scoring chances and having less of his passes put away.
 
I really wish Kakko was a center.

He would just check every single box.
 
If Kakko and Kravtsov play in the NHL next season, and Kreider and Skjei aren't moved in the offseason, there's a distinct possibility that on a given night, the Rangers could have 7 players they took in the first round on their roster

Kakko, Kravstov, Andersson, Chytil, Kreider, Skjei, and Staal.

Additionally, if K&K were added to the same roster that finished the season, there would be a total of 14 former first round picks on the squad --- including 5 players picked in the top 10.
 
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Gardner McKay said:
Am I the only person here that is going to be nervous right up until Gordie makes the selection? I mean, Kakko (if available) is a lock at #2. He should be and deep down, I know Hughes or Kakko will be a Ranger on June 21. That isn't stopping me from envisioning this scenario where Gordie goes to the podium says "The New York Rangers are proud to select from SKA St. Petersburg, Vasily Podkolzin".

Do you blame me?
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Not at all. You know Clark will be the one like ahhhh I mean he’s good but this Russian kid I can’t shake him.
 
Edge said:
If Kakko and Kravtsov play in the NHL next season, and Kreider and Skjei aren't moved in the offseason, there's a distinct possibility that on a given night, the Rangers could have 7 players they took in the first round on their roster

Kakko, Kravstov, Andersson, Chytil, Kreider, Skjei, and Staal.

Additionally, if K&K were added to the same roster that finished the season, there would be a total of 14 former first round picks on the squad --- including 5 players picked in the top 10.
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I mentioned this about a week ago. The amount of first round talent we’ll have in the lineup is insane.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Name translations have always fascinated me.

Steven in French is Etienne which never made sense to me. But Finnish names take the cake man.

Valtteri = Walter
Lauri = Lawrence
Antti = Andrew
Jukka = John
Taneli = Daniel
Seppo = Sebastian
Santeri = Alexander

:laugh:
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Russian is simple compared to that. But you have to deal with cyrillic.
 
RangerSeth said:
Nah, he wouldn't have mentioned the fact that the general hockey world considers there to be 2 franchise quality players. That was your sign and the rest was just lip service.
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I agree, but some people will focus on the "I haven't spoken to our scouts yet, there may be another guy who is right there" quotes.

This pick is pretty much idiot proof.

Some people have PTSD from the McIlrath pick, but no one will be able to convince me that Messier didn't have a lot to do with that one.
 
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ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
I agree, but some people will focus on the "I haven't spoken to our scouts yet, there may be another guy who is right there" quotes.

This pick is pretty much idiot proof.

Some people have PTSD from the McIlrath pick, but no one will be able to convince me that Messier didn't have a lot to do with that one.
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Completely different group of guys running the show and also a much different situation. I totally get why people have McIlrath PTSD, but it's such a different situation now. I think most people using their logic knows it's a lock for Kakko/Hughes.
 
RangerSeth said:
Completely different group of guys running the show and also a much different situation. I totally get why people have McIlrath PTSD, but it's such a different situation now. I think most people using their logic knows it's a lock for Kakko/Hughes.
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Clark and Gorton were both here when McIlrath was chosen, but I agree.

Again, I have a strong, strong suspicion that Messier had a lot to do with that pick (and that draft in general.)
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Clark and Gorton were both here when McIlrath was chosen, but I agree.

Again, I have a strong, strong suspicion that Messier had a lot to do with that pick (and that draft in general.)
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But it was the 10th pick versus a top 2 when it's universally agreed upon who the top 2 is and Gorton's power and influence was insignificant compared to now. You might very well be right about Messier by the way, but I'm just saying that the situation is a lot different and that Gorton is a lot different than Sather.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Clark and Gorton were both here when McIlrath was chosen, but I agree.

Again, I have a strong, strong suspicion that Messier had a lot to do with that pick (and that draft in general.)
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My memory is failing me, was Messier part of the front office then? In what capacity? And why do you think it was his influence?
 
SnowblindNYR said:
My memory is failing me, was Messier part of the front office then? In what capacity? And why do you think it was his influence?
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He was on the stage with the rest of the staff when McIlrath was picked.

Gordie Clark was questioned about why he didn't take Fowler and he responded with something akin to "We can't look Mark Messier in the eye and say we're going to draft a soft player"

Messier was also interviewed after that draft and said "It used to be the best player available, but some times the best player doesn't love the game."

That pick (and draft) had his prints all over it. Some people want him to become president of this team.
 
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ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
He was on the stage with the rest of the staff when McIlrath was picked.

Gordie Clark was questioned about why he didn't take Fowler and he responded with something akin to "We can't look Mark Messier in the eye and say we're going to draft a soft player"

Messier was also interviewed after that draft and said "It used to be the best player available, but some times the best player doesn't love the game."

That pick (and draft) had his prints all over it. Some people want him to become president of this team.
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Was he supposed to be picking draft picks for us? What was his role?
 
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