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Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part I (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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Regarding the language barrier:

Together with the Netherlands, Denmark/Finland/Sweden/Norway tend to top most lists of "English-speaking countries where it's not the mother tongue". We have no other choice but to learn English. No one else would understand us if we didn't.

Even though someone mentioned a translator somewhere, I am sure that was mostly for comfort. If I was about to be interviewed on TV as an 18 year old and were offered a translator, I'd probably go for it. Considering where his hometown is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's trilingual. (Turku are among the cities in Finland where both Finnish and Swedish are official languages).

He'll be fine.
 
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monkaS said:
20 year old who's nearly 0.5 gpg in his career can't be overrated. besides the kid is hated, not overrated. everyone ****s on him. i think hockey world is naive to not see what he'll likely become. and a lot of people will be eating crows. he has an insane ability around which is very easy to build a successful goal scoring machine. it'll take a few years for him to get there.

right this moment he's outplaying the other two young Jets wingers in the playoffs. just like he did last year.

also not sure why you'd hate someone who's not even on ur team or even on ur rival team. he's just a kid.
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Disagree with that, there are some Finns who think he's more valuable than Bergeron, and the way they've talked of him as he's one of the best players in the league, and nothing is ever on Laine and so on.
His goal scoring has covered for lot of his problems, some people just see the goals and love to go crazy with hyping.

As for Kakko vs Hughes hands Hughes likely has the advantage in the open but in the corners/tight spaces Kakkos hands are insane.
 
BB88 said:
Disagree with that, there are some Finns who think he's more valuable than Bergeron, and the way they've talked of him as he's one of the best players in the league, and nothing is ever on Laine and so on.
His goal scoring has covered for lot of his problems, some people just see the goals and love to go crazy with hyping.

As for Kakko vs Hughes hands Hughes likely has the advantage in the open but in the corners/tight spaces Kakkos hands are insane.
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his problems are covered. everybody knows. what's covered is your eyes and mind when you can't see what he'll become.
 
monkaS said:
his problems are covered. everybody knows. what's covered is your eyes and mind when you can't see what he'll become.
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I've followed him pretty damm close, including games, off ice trainings, and articles for years. His ceiling is very very high, but his issue is development post draft, and not being able to improve his weaknessess, which after 3 years of not developing make you question how much can he achieve of that potential if he doesn't make major changes to his off ice training especially.

People at HF have opened their eyes mor than people elsewhere, but atleast they've gotten better as the season's gone.
He was a borderline NHL player for majority of the season.
 
It would hardly be a catastrophe if the Devils took Kakko and we took Hughes. Being No. 1 they'll get the extra scrutiny later on if the guy the Rangers choose turns out to be the better player. If they're relatively even it won't matter.

I think for the Devils Hughes might be the better player--filling a greater need at center than Kakko would for them on the wing. But it may also be that they really haven't made up their minds who they're going to choose.

As for scoring goals--I heard all last year that Brady Tkachuk while at Boston U. had a lousy shot and a terrible shooting % and here he is this year with over 20 goals as a 19 year old. Most goals are scored from 25' out and in and if you're willing to go to those areas and you have slick hands you're going to get goals.
 
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eco's bones said:
It would hardly be a catastrophe if the Devils took Kakko and we took Hughes. Being No. 1 they'll get the extra scrutiny later on if the guy the Rangers choose turns out to be the better player. If they're relatively even it won't matter.

I think for the Devils Hughes might be the better player--filling a greater need at center than Kakko would for them on the wing. But it may also be that they really haven't made up their minds who they're going to choose.

As for scoring goals--I heard all last year that Brady Tkachuk while at Boston U. had a lousy shot and a terrible shooting % and here he is this year with over 20 goals as a 19 year old. Most goals are scored from 25' out and in and if you're willing to go to those areas and you have slick hands you're going to get goals.
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Yeah but that's not the argument here...the argument is that Hughes has a laser for a wrister. You're not going to find a bigger Hughes fan on this board. He's just an amazing prospect and I'd laugh at the devil's if they didn't pick him. But anyone whose watched him play for even more than 10 mins will tell you his shot, and his health are the 2 biggest concerns about his game...so yes he can score from the high danger shots, but his frames ability to consistently pay the price will be interesting.

Personally I think he's more dangerous know the outside but he's certainly unafraid to go to the danger areas.

Hughes has as much of a laser shot as Scott gomez did
 
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BB88 said:
I've followed him pretty damm close, including games, off ice trainings, and articles for years. His ceiling is very very high, but his issue is development post draft, and not being able to improve his weaknessess, which after 3 years of not developing make you question how much can he achieve of that potential if he doesn't make major changes to his off ice training especially.

People at HF have opened their eyes mor than people elsewhere, but atleast they've gotten better as the season's gone.
He was a borderline NHL player for majority of the season.
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How about if you take the Laine talk somewhere else. I think there's enough empty talk about him already.
 
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Wife’s outta town for a bachelorette I’ve got the 2019 WJC Championship game on. It’s a lot more fun to watch this time around when you know Kaapo Kakko is yours. Such a good player even as a 17 year old in this tourney at the time.

Lundell has to be a top 3 pick next year easy
 
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Rangerfans said:
:help:Did I seriously read a Ranger fan saying they would trade the #2 pick if the Devils took Kakko?

I find it extremely amusing how now that we are most likely getting Kakko, Hughes is apparently a bust.
This is the only fan base that has Hughes as a resounding #2. :laugh:
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Are you sure about that?

Jack Hughes vs Kaapo Kakko - From the Main Boards

Almost a clean 50/50 split on who fans would take 1st.
 
Not sure if you guys saw the video that the Devils twitter put out but they made it very clear theyre taking Hughes.

For those who didnt see:

 
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Wakko4Kakko said:
Not sure if you guys saw the video that the Devils twitter put out but they made it very clear theyre taking Hughes.

For those who didnt see:

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I think this shows another reason the Devils should pick Hughes, that, to my knowledge, no-one's mentioned: marketing.

As good as Kakko might be, Hughes is electrifying to watch, clean-cut, well-spoken and could be the Team USA #1 Centre. He's marketing gold for a team that often has to work hard to raise its profile. These sorts of things do count.
 
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Wakko4Kakko said:
Not sure if you guys saw the video that the Devils twitter put out but they made it very clear theyre taking Hughes.

For those who didnt see:

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Actually laughed out loud at that. Only uneducated fans would be freaking out and cheering that late into the draft lottery this year. And New Jersey are just feeding the ignorance to help the hype along.

I was freaking out and cheering as soon as Chicago's logo was turned at #3.
 


Better quality that's not recorded on a potato.

Dude looks huge out there, taller than 6'2, unless everyone else on the ice is under 6 foot? And look how fast he pulled away from those defensemen, wow.
 
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