The San Jose Sharks are horror-bad

[freakydallas13]

Man that's a stat and a half 10 games in

Kind of seems this was the plan all along. Lombardi crippled the team with stupid contracts.

Lombardi hasn't been the GM of the Sharks since 2003?

 

[Edenjung]

Its the Ghost of the golden seals that came Back to haunt them.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Sharks rode out their core in order to compete and are paying the price

Same thing will happen to Washington and Pittsburgh

 

[hockey20000]

Sharks rode out their core in order to compete and are paying the price

Same thing will happen to Washington and Pittsburgh

atleast pit got 3 cups and washinton got 1 cup to soften the blow of upcoming sucky years in near future.. sharks fans got none. real shame because they iced some good teams since 2000 Should of lucked out and picked up a cup.

 

[BertCorbeau]

atleast pit got 3 cups and washinton got 1 cup to soften the blow of upcoming sucky years in near future.. sharks fans got none. real shame because they iced some good teams since 2000 Should of lucked out and picked up a cup.

Agreed!

 

[serp]

Sharks rode out their core in order to compete and are paying the price

Same thing will happen to Washington and Pittsburgh

The question is allways how long do you want to spend draft capital at all cost to compete. With the Sharks and imho the Pens they tried to keep the window open forceably for too long. There comes a point where trading away picks and especially first rounders for shortterm help is no longer worth is . Just too many picks thrown away in bad trades in the last couple of years. Caps weren't as wasteful with their picks .

 

[boboche]

For the Sharks, it's not just throwing away picks at every trade deadline, it's also what they do with the picks they keep. Scouting and player development seems to be seriously lacking. How come a team like Boston always find a way to get a gem in every draft...

 

[Nogatco Rd]

They opened up cap space by moving Karlsson, and are potentially getting a lottery pick from PIT this year or next.

In the Meier trade they got a hopeful top-4 dman prospect, Zetterlund has looked good, a 1st round pick (Musty who we all like) and the potential for another 1st round pick.

What's underwhelming about any of that? No one was giving us a league-wide top prospect for either.

Do you think they should have moved Hertl?

 

[gary559]

I'll say this: I honestly wish to see what John Tortorella could do with this Sharks team.

I bet they wouldn't be winless.

This has a Torts project written all over it. Mike Grier should also be fired because hes been hosed in every deal he has made so far and hired Quinn who everybody knew was a bag of suck. Even if you have the worst roster in the league, the metrics on this team are simply unacceptable.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Do you think they should have moved Hertl?

In the 2022 season yes. That was before Grier took over though and Doug Wilson left the team due to health reasons, so the idiot Joe Will was in charge. He was setting us up to draft 10-15th overall and miss the playoffs for the next decade.

This has a Torts project written all over it. Mike Grier should also be fired because hes been hosed in every deal he has made so far and hired Quinn who everybody knew was a bag of suck. Even if you have the worst roster in the league, the metrics on this team are simply unacceptable.

What deal has Grier been hosed in? What would any other GM have done that would've been better? Lol

 

[BallardEra]

First and last...

 

[elitepete]

You can come in last place without being this bad. Sharks should have been signing veteran players in free agency that they could flip for more assets at the deadline. They wouldn’t be this embarrassingly bad.

This is also a toxic environment for the young players that they have on their roster and may affect their development.

 

[Evergreen]

They gave up as many goals last night as they have scored all season.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

That goal looks like you´re watching some Canada-Lichtenstein game in the World Championships. Jesus Christ. I mean, it looked like that the whole game, but especially this one.

 

[Saskatoon]

Yeah I don't get the plan. Even if going full rebuild, there's no rationale for being this bad. Some of their challenging areas can be easily addressed.

There are some AHL teams with a better dcorps. Surely they can improve their dcorps by waiver wire alone.

Left unchecked you wonder how this'll impact development of younger players, attractiveness for free agents etc.

Sharks have done a few waiver claims over last two years.

 

[KingsFan7824]

The question is allways how long do you want to spend draft capital at all cost to compete. With the Sharks and imho the Pens they tried to keep the window open forceably for too long. There comes a point where trading away picks and especially first rounders for shortterm help is no longer worth is . Just too many picks thrown away in bad trades in the last couple of years. Caps weren't as wasteful with their picks .

There's always time to rebuild. There's always another draft in the future. There's always another star teenager to tank for. Too many fans have a philosophy of, any hint of non-elite contender status means scorched earth. That's not how pro sports works. Very few teams do that, and when they do, they're usually forced to by circumstance, it's rarely voluntary.

I know fans shouldn't like it, but just making the playoffs, even if you can't win, does matter.

First and last...

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Either the start of a die hard fan, or never meant to be.

You can come in last place without being this bad. Sharks should have been signing veteran players in free agency that they could flip for more assets at the deadline. They wouldn’t be this embarrassingly bad.

This is also a toxic environment for the young players that they have on their roster and may affect their development.

They did bring in vets.

 

[Chainshot]

First and last...

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Memorable. Might also be costly for the cost of a therapist later in life.

 

[Chainshot]

How long until Quinn gets walked out the door? Not only do they seem like they aren't well positioned, there seems like there is no fire, no energy, just deadness to the entire bench. Some coaches can tap into professional pride to get something out of their guys but this is just another season of the skating dead.

 

[Arthuros]

How terrible.

 

[serp]

There's always time to rebuild. There's always another draft in the future. There's always another star teenager to tank for. Too many fans have a philosophy of, any hint of non-elite contender status means scorched earth. That's not how pro sports works. Very few teams do that, and when they do, they're usually forced to by circumstance, it's rarely voluntary.

I know fans shouldn't like it, but just making the playoffs, even if you can't win, does matter.



Either the start of a die hard fan, or never meant to be.



They did bring in vets.

This isn't about making the playoffs. Pens and Sharks would've made the playoffs without wasting this many picks too . If you trade away all your picks for shorterm win now players you will have to sign aging vets everywhere to fill out the roster and you really need some young legs in the lineup these days . Not to mention it also means your team is going to be complete shit when your core ages out because you never supplemented it with young players and now have to go full on scorched earth mode.

 

[MS]

How long until Quinn gets walked out the door? Not only do they seem like they aren't well positioned, there seems like there is no fire, no energy, just deadness to the entire bench. Some coaches can tap into professional pride to get something out of their guys but this is just another season of the skating dead.

As a Canucks fan, I was embarrassed for them last night.

No compete, no fightback.

The play where the Sharks goalie was injured and the whole Canucks team was around him making sure he was OK while the SJ players skated to the bench kinda summed up the whole night. And stuff like that does not reflect well on the coaches.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

So uh, how's Zadina working out for you sharks fans?

 

[Chainshot]

As a Canucks fan, I was embarrassed for them last night.

No compete, no fightback.

The play where the Sharks goalie was injured and the whole Canucks team was around him making sure he was OK while the SJ players skated to the bench kinda summed up the whole night. And stuff like that does not reflect well on the coaches.

Yeah, I was watching and while I thought it was classy of Kuzmenko to go to the tender immediately... where were his teammates?

 

[Cas]

You can come in last place without being this bad. Sharks should have been signing veteran players in free agency that they could flip for more assets at the deadline. They wouldn’t be this embarrassingly bad.

We acquired said veteran players in trade instead.

Those veteran players - Mike Hoffman, Jan Rutta, Mikael Granlund - just happen to be garbage, alongside our own immovable veteran players - Vlasic, Ferraro, Labanc.

We're pretty close to capped out as it is - projected to have $3.8 million in cap space. Not a lot of room.

So uh, how's Zadina working out for you sharks fans?

He's one of our better players.

That should indicate just how bad we are, because he's trash and off to Europe next year.

 

[Necrobutcher]

I love it. There's always talks in the offseason how some teams will be just horrible and historically bad but they never actually are and end up winning like 28 games. Not this Sharks team though! They're the real deal and have even exceeded the expectations on how shitty they'll be. I find it really refreshing actually. Thank you San Jose for sucking ass. <3