The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Mattilaus]

It would be a little weird to acquire Farabee considering he had the same neck surgery that our doctors didn't want Eichel to have.

Not wanting to take on that risk then doesn't mean they aren't prepared to now that we can see how these players are post op.

 

[RefsIdeas]

Not wanting to take on that risk then doesn't mean they aren't prepared to now that we can see how these players are post op.

Not a doctor, but I thought that was exactly part of the reason we didn't let Eichel get it. Felt like the disc-replacement surgery was unproven and could fail eventually. Neither surgery was that long ago, so it's long-term effects are still unproven.

 

[Beerz]

Not a doctor, but I thought that was exactly part of the reason we didn't let Eichel get it. Felt like the disc-replacement surgery was unproven and could fail eventually. Neither surgery was that long ago, so it's long-term effects are still unproven.

I think it was more Eichel had already requested a trade and they didn't want to make the decision and potentially ruin his value to teams that may have been opposed to that surgery as well as why open yourself up to being on the hook for that contract if something potentially goes wrong during surgery.

 

[Dingo44]

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Anaheim Ducks

A right-shot top-four defenseman

Another top-six wing could be in this space, as well, given that neither need has been addressed. It’s why Steven Stamkos would have been ideal, and Jonathan Marchessault was a strong secondary target. But a right-handed defenseman was also on general manager Pat Verbeek’s shopping list, and Brian Dumoulin doesn’t fill that hole, even though he should help the defense overall. As of now, it’s likely that the Ducks will have to move one of their lefties over to the right side. Cam Fowler and Jackson LaCombe can do it, but both are stronger on their natural side. While Tristan Luneau has a lot of promise, Radko Gudas is their only proven right-shot defender. — Eric Stephens

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

 

[Jim Bob]

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

Yeah, somewhere in this thread, I did say that with Gudas being the only RHD that Anaheim has today, Jokiharju or Clifton could potentially be a part of a deal with the Ducks.

Krebs + [Jokiharju/Clifton] + '25 1st as the basis of an offer makes sense if Anaheim wants to offload Zegras. Or, if Verbeek wants the beef, swap out Greenway for Krebs and he might want Wahlberg in the deal.

 

[Uberpecker]

Why again does Anaheim want to move on from Zegras?

 

[Fezzy126]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1810377819068969157

Chris capturing all of the keys to the season in two tweets...

 

[Fjordy]

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

Yeah, somewhere in this thread, I did say that with Gudas being the only RHD that Anaheim has today, Jokiharju or Clifton could potentially be a part of a deal with the Ducks.

Krebs + [Jokiharju/Clifton] + '25 1st as the basis of an offer makes sense if Anaheim wants to offload Zegras. Or, if Verbeek wants the beef, swap out Greenway for Krebs and he might want Wahlberg in the deal.

For some reason I'm sure Verbeek will ask for Wahlberg. Then of course you can add Greenway or Jokiharju or even both. I just doubt that Greenway or Jokiharju can be the central figure in a trade for Zegras.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1810377819068969157

Chris capturing all of the keys to the season in two tweets...

Even if they did trade for a top 6 winger they’re still counting on positive regression and growth from benson peterka and Quinn.

If tuch Thompson power and cozens don’t rebound it’s irrelevant what else they do

 

[jc17]

Farabee's career year last season was roughly equivalent to Dylan Cozens' disappointing season last season.

Adding a top 6 winger with a career high of 22 goals and 50 points is going to be disappointing to a lot of people.

I'm all for buying low on a guy whose counting stats aren't inflated by pp

Guys with similar production at similar age, minimum 1000 minutes. They don't come available super often at 5M:

Edit: and a 2500 minute filter. Sorry for the table spam but this isn't a dime a dozen opportunity. You can see some less than great players, but some team could get really lucky depending on the price

 

[Chainshot]

It would be a little weird to acquire Farabee considering he had the same neck surgery that our doctors didn't want Eichel to have.

There is a substantial difference in the amount of money owed on Farabee's deal vs. Eichel's deal. Easy.

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

I could see Jokiharju as a sweetener, but what is the main? And why?

 

[Dingo44]

There is a substantial difference in the amount of money owed on Farabee's deal vs. Eichel's deal. Easy.



I could see Jokiharju as a sweetener, but what is the main? And why?

I think the topic of Zegras yay or nay has been well covered in this forum. I don't think he's the only option but he's a good one and if 2025 1st + Joker worked I would do it. Not sure how much farther I'd go.

 

[Djp]

Well I think Farabee makes sense, he would improve our top 9 as a whole and there are ties to Buffalo. He's already signed for $5 million and four more years. He's had the most productive season of his career and he's still relatively young. And yet he was reportedly in Torts' doghouse.

Farabee is from Cicero, he was at Buffalo Junior, he played under Appert, and Seth spoke very highly of him.

At what cost?

I wouldn't trade him for Krebs straight up, and Lance L. had us sending a package of Krebs, Clifton, and a 2nd for him.


Makes sense but I'm still not sending a center to them for him. They'd have to add to get Krebs, which is probably why a deal hasn't happened.

I can see krebs+ for him but what is the +

My other concern is if greenway us force out of the lineup, his yrafr value goes down and we will miss his size

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

Zegras...as a centrr,? A winger? Does he fit what buffalo wants?

 

[Dingo44]

At what cost?



I can see krebs+ for him but what is the +

My other concern is if greenway us force out of the lineup, his yrafr value goes down and we will miss his size



Zegras...as a centrr,? A winger? Does he fit what buffalo wants?

Zegras fits in the sense he's the same age as Cozens, cost controlled for a bit, can play center or wing, and upgrades our top 6. He's also rumored to be available and does not have a NMC/NTC.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

In the same article that @Jim Bob posted about every team's need is this:

Each NHL team’s biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency

After the first week of NHL free agency, where does your team stand? If there's still a gaping hole, there are only a few options left.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe there is something to be done with Zegras and Joker.

I think if Joker was going to be traded, they would have done it before signing him to a deal, since that gives the acquiring team a chance to sign him to whatever contract they want (longer term). As it stands, a one-year deal means no extension can be signed before January, so a team trading for him is basically trading for a rental, they can't even get the extension done before the season.

That hurts his trade value.

I think Joker is here for next year, or at least until the deadline.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Uhhhh, just saw this on the Avs board....... Anyone hearing something similar?

I don't want Georgiev. I want the Sabre to keep UPL.

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[Sabreality]

Uhhhh, just saw this on the Avs board....... Anyone hearing something similar?

I don't want Georgiev. I want the Sabre to keep UPL.

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That sites about as reputable as Eklund, hell I might believe Eklunds bogus rumors more.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Uhhhh, just saw this on the Avs board....... Anyone hearing something similar?

I don't want Georgiev. I want the Sabre to keep UPL.

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i think that’s the same site that has us trading for Brandon Carlo, with Johnson and/or Rosen going the other way. Not sure who they are.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Uhhhh, just saw this on the Avs board....... Anyone hearing something similar?

I don't want Georgiev. I want the Sabre to keep UPL.

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"rumored to be discussing"

So when it doesn't happen: "We never said it would happen, just they might possibly be talking about it. Not even they were confirmed talking about it!"

 

[MOGlLNY]

That site is a load of horseshit

 

[TageGod]

I don't really want Zegras, he is what all our prospects mostly are, and what's on the roster; small and skilled. Think a trade needs to be Greenway+prospect+pick for a winger. Krebs is basically our 13 right now.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't really want Zegras, he is what all our prospects mostly are, and what's on the roster; small and skilled. Think a trade needs to be Greenway+prospect+pick for a winger. Krebs is basically our 13 right now.

But most of them aren't ready yet, and Zegras is not a first-year NHL player. He has several 60+ point seasons, he can play center or wing, he's a great playmaker and we don't have many playmakers, he's improved defensively. He can contribute right now. And he's not as small as Benson or Savoie.

 

[Jacob582]

Andrew Peters:
- he's been told Buffalo isn't involved with Winnipeg.
- thinks Adams is going for a defensemen but doesn't know who.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Andrew Peters:
- he's been told Buffalo isn't involved with Winnipeg.
- thinks Adams is going for a defensemen but doesn't know who.

I’m on record saying Ruff isn’t going to rely on the kids alone. Hopefully I’m right because Dahlin, Power, Byram will be so much better with a good veteran defenseman in the room with them.

 

[Chainshot]

Andrew Peters:
- he's been told Buffalo isn't involved with Winnipeg.
- thinks Adams is going for a defensemen but doesn't know who.

Petey has been less and less reliable. Last week we were told that they were talking to Winnipeg and that it was because the player didn’t come. Now his story is different and Adams is not talking to them. Whatever.