The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[CaliSabresfan24]

Agreed. Hopefully they still pick up players with more of a physical presence

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Necas+Kotkaniemi for 11+Jokiharju+Rosen?


Peterka - Thompson - Quinn
Benson - Cozens - Necas
Greenway - Kotkaniemi - Tuch
Krebs - [ADD] - [ADD]

 

[Fjordy]

Necas+Kotkaniemi for 11+Jokiharju+Rosen?


Peterka - Thompson - Quinn
Benson - Cozens - Necas
Greenway - Kotkaniemi - Tuch
Krebs - [ADD] - [ADD]

I think you overpaid. Kotkaniemi is not needed by the RBA and his value with this contract is probably zero or close to it.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

I think you overpaid. Kotkaniemi is not needed by the RBA and his value with this contract is probably zero or close to it.

I think Kotkaniemi for Jokiharju is a fair swap. KK isn't useless, he's just overpaid. Then it's 11+Rosen for Necas, which I view as similar to the DeBrincat return.

 

[Fjordy]

I think Kotkaniemi for Jokiharju is a fair swap. KK isn't useless, he's just overpaid. Then it's 11+Rosen for Necas, which I view as similar to the DeBrincat return.

I'm not saying he's useless, he just had a bad season and this contract is really not attractive in terms of length. I'd probably be ok with Joki for Kotkaniemi. Although I think 11 and Rosen seem too much for Necas.

I would then use the same Rosen or Johnson+ to get a guy like Marino to replace Joki.

 

[Beerz]

Phew... some Cane fans have high expectations for a return.

11 + Peterka

11 + Quinn

11 + Kulich

The first 2 are pipe dreams.

I would hope they don't value Necas high enough to add a Kulich level prospect on top of the 11

 

[thewookie1]

Can people stop trying to acquire a marshmallow in Kotkamiemi, I would frankly run Krebs at 3C before I acquired that overpaid player

 

[Fjordy]

Phew... some Cane fans have high expectations for a return.

11 + Peterka

11 + Quinn

11 + Kulich

The first 2 are pipe dreams.

I would hope they don't value Necas high enough to add a Kulich level prospect on top of the 11

Yes, I read their board a few weeks ago and saw messages there like Tuch+ or Peterka+, come on guys.

 

[thewookie1]

I just don’t agree. He creates offense and can help drive play, and isn’t a black hole in his own end.

He’s a very talented offensive player.


Just because a player isn’t a two-way forward or tough or gritty, doesn’t mean they are Jeff skinner.

His analytics are nigh-identical to Skinner. Great offense, terrible defense

 

[Der Jaeger]

Necas is nothing like Skinner. Skinner is a better goal scorer, stronger on his skates and better in tight spaces. Necas is more free wheeling, a better playmaker at speed and has elite speed and he can make plays at speed. He’s a one man entry on the PP.

Necas never dogged it coming back. He tries on D, but as a winger, sometimes makes the wrong read or takes the wrong angle.

His biggest flaw IMO, is that at times, he tries to do too much and gets himself into trouble and he hasn’t really gone into the dirty areas. Given who his linemates were, I can see why.

He’d be best on a line with other guys who have speed and can put the puck in the net.

Unlike Skinner, I was hoping the canes would keep Necas, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I don’t begrudge him for wanting to move. He was on PP2 and his most common 5v5 linemates were Jack Drury, Michael Bunting and Kotkaniemi. Last year he was on pp1, played a lot with Svech and Aho (as well as Kotkaniemi )

Can Necas play center?

 

[Intermission]

Kotkamiemi with the Canes has 3 goals and 7 assists in 40 playoff games.

He was good for Montreal beforehand.

11 + 2nd round pick (43) for Martin Necas.

That's as far as I want to get bent.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Can Necas play center?

He sure can’t take faceoffs, looking at his stats

 

[Zman5778]

Necas+Kotkaniemi for 11+Jokiharju+Rosen?


Peterka - Thompson - Quinn
Benson - Cozens - Necas
Greenway - Kotkaniemi - Tuch
Krebs - [ADD] - [ADD]

A Canes fan posted Necas and Drury for 11/Rosen/Krebs.

While I'm not a huge fan of "upgrading" Skinner to Necas..............Krebs to Drury is definitively an upgrade. Drury's a pretty damned ideal 3C. In fact, that swap alone (Krebs/Drury) is enough to make me consider being OK with getting Necas.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Hopefully zegras

I’m not as familiar w Zegras as I am Necas but I’ve never considered Zegras as one-dimensional as Necas.

Do folks find it odd that Adams manages the softest team in the league and is rumored to be going after 2 players who are being moved because they’re too soft?

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Can Necas play center?

That has to be what they are thinking ?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

A Canes fan posted Necas and Drury for 11/Rosen/Krebs.

While I'm not a huge fan of "upgrading" Skinner to Necas..............Krebs to Drury is definitively an upgrade. Drury's a pretty damned ideal 3C. In fact, that swap alone (Krebs/Drury) is enough to make me consider being OK with getting Necas.

This deal makes a LOT more sense for Buffalo. I’d be pretty psyched to get Necas if he came with Drury. But then I’d probably just rather target Drury alone.

 

[Dubi Doo]

That has to be what they are thinking ?

Perhaps, but I'd bet on them trying to replace Skinner in the top-6.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Perhaps, but I'd bet on them trying to replace Skinner in the top-6.

Does Necas rule out Kane then ?

 

[Mattilaus]

Phew... some Cane fans have high expectations for a return.

11 + Peterka

11 + Quinn

11 + Kulich

The first 2 are pipe dreams.

I would hope they don't value Necas high enough to add a Kulich level prospect on top of the 11

Completely out to lunch. I mean why don't we just throw Benson in as well at that point.

 

[toddkaz]

I read the article from The Athletic

Doesn't really sound like something is imminent

 

[HOOats]

A Canes fan posted Necas and Drury for 11/Rosen/Krebs.

While I'm not a huge fan of "upgrading" Skinner to Necas..............Krebs to Drury is definitively an upgrade. Drury's a pretty damned ideal 3C. In fact, that swap alone (Krebs/Drury) is enough to make me consider being OK with getting Necas.

Done deal, no take backskis.

Would be fine adding a secondary prospect or a 4th to get it over the line.

That move plus one of Carrier/Trenin and a #13 like Lafferty would have me excited for the season even with the D unchanged.

 

[Mattilaus]

I read the article from The Athletic

Doesn't really sound like something is imminent

If the 2024 1st is involved it has to be imminent-ish

 

[Beerz]

I’m not as familiar w Zegras as I am Necas but I’ve never considered Zegras as one-dimensional as Necas.

Do folks find it odd that Adams manages the softest team in the league and is rumored to be going after 2 players who are being moved because they’re too soft?

Necas is not being shopped because he is too soft. He is the one that has reportedly asked out.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I read the article from The Athletic

Doesn't really sound like something is imminent

I think everyone is now referring to the Lebrun/NRD/Scheig Chatter on Necas for a package including #11.

 

[Samsonite23]

Why is Necas’s number $9M? Is that projected somewhere? It doesn’t make any sense to me.