The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Doug Prishpreed]

Necas is not being shopped because he is too soft. He is the one that has reportedly asked out.

He’s asking out because he’s not getting enough ice time and opportunity - he’s not getting enough ice time and opportunity because the coach thinks he’s too soft.

Two players whose teams think they’re too soft and want them to be harder to play against and would rather move them than give them more ice time.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Why is Necas’s number $9M? Is that projected somewhere? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

He is rumored to want $9 on a long term deal - I forget where I saw it, not sure how legit it was.

For a bridge deal he obviously would get a much lower number

 

[TunaBoss44]

Why is Necas’s number $9M? Is that projected somewhere? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

Evolving Hockey has him at 8x8.8. They tend to be pretty accurate.

I could see that being a touch low since we lose a lot of leverage in negotiation by trading for him. Their number is only for Carolina re-signing him

 

[Beerz]

He’s asking out because he’s not getting enough ice time and opportunity - he’s not getting enough ice time and opportunity because the coach thinks he’s too soft.

Two players whose teams think they’re too soft and want them to be harder to play against and would rather move them than give them more ice time.

Why do you always make shit up?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

FWIW, Seravalli doesn't list us as among the teams in on Necas.

 

[HaNotsri]

It says something that a lot of us dream about Wild Bill and Cirelli but the rumours are about Necas and Zegras.
I realize Bill/Cirelli likely aren't available but my opinion of the team must essentially be the opposite of Adams.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Do folks find it odd that Adams manages the softest team in the league and is rumored to be going after 2 players who are being moved because they’re too soft?

Well you completely made that up.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

FWIW, Seravalli doesn't list us as among the teams in on Necas.

No offense to frank but I’ll take Lebruns word over his

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

No offense to frank but I’ll take Lebruns word over his

Oh I agree, just sharing.

 

[Samsonite23]

Evolving Hockey has him at 8x8.8. They tend to be pretty accurate.

I could see that being a touch low since we lose a lot of leverage in negotiation by trading for him. Their number is only for Carolina re-signing him

Alright, I guess I’m out on him. I’d like to know how they can up with that number. Seems nuts to me.

 

[Gras]

Necas needs to come in below Tage on and extension.

 

[Ace]

Today is the day I learned that people are incapable of differentiating a 25 year old heading into his prime from a 32 year old slowly skating out of his.

For any Skinner comparisons…let’s pretend your acquiring the 25 year old version not the old one who lost his spot in the top six on a team whose coach was the softest guy in the room.

Then we can get to how they aren’t the same player. But at least we can start from them not being the same age.

Because if you REALLY don’t see why they’d move on from a declining aging player to replace his future production with a young skill forward…I just don’t even know what to tell you.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Alright, I guess I’m out on him. I’d like to know how they can up with that number. Seems nuts to me.

I could see Jesper Bratt's deal as a comparable. His deal was 9.55% of the cap, which would get $8.4M today.

 

[Ace]

I could see Jesper Bratt's deal as a comparable. His deal was 9.55% of the cap, which would get $8.4M today.

People aren’t ready to discuss what a rising cap does to contracts. Some people still ask why Owen Power got more than we offered to Daniel Briere in 2007

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Alright, I guess I’m out on him. I’d like to know how they can up with that number. Seems nuts to me.

Probably the 0.32 goals per game as a 25 year old, two seasons in a row? Still seems high but I guess goals pay

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

People aren’t ready to discuss what a rising cap does to contracts. Some people still ask why Owen Power got more than we offered to Daniel Briere in 2007

I think comparing cap % is the only useful metric given the fairly large cap rise happening this year and next.

 

[Samsonite23]

I could see Jesper Bratt's deal as a comparable. His deal was 9.55% of the cap, which would get $8.4M today.

Not bad…But he did outproduce Necas while being better defensively. So $8M would sound like the number. Which would make much more sense than $9M.

 

[Ace]

I think comparing cap % is the only useful metric given the fairly large cap rise happening this year and next.

Let’s work on getting people to understand the difference between 25 and 32 before dropping the world of percentages on them.

Every day is a struggle.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Why do you always make shit up?

Why is he not getting the PP minutes and ice time he feels he deserves, if you know so much?

 

[jc17]

FWIW, Seravalli doesn't list us as among the teams in on Necas.

Lindy told kevyn to drive up that price for NJD

 

[Beerz]

Why is he not getting the PP minutes and ice time he feels he deserves, if you know so much?

The guy was getting 18+ minutes last year and 17+ minutes this year... just below Aho... The reported issue was he wants to play Center not Wing. That is why he is dissatisfied

 

[Zach716]

If we're going for less than ideal targets, I'd rather go Zegras than Necas tbh. There has to be something better out there to use our assets on that make sense

 

[Ace]

If we're going for less than ideal targets, I'd rather go Zegras than Necas tbh. There has to be something better out there to use our assets on that make sense

I would go Necas a thousand times before Zegras. Maybe more. There may be no limit.

 

[Zach716]

I would go Necas a thousand times before Zegras. Maybe more. There may be no limit.

The key phrase was less than ideal

Rather not target either, but if Adams wants to make a panic move Zegras at least has more boom factor potential

 

[Dirty Dog]

Today is the day I learned that people are incapable of differentiating a 25 year old heading into his prime from a 32 year old slowly skating out of his.

For any Skinner comparisons…let’s pretend your acquiring the 25 year old version not the old one who lost his spot in the top six on a team whose coach was the softest guy in the room.

Then we can get to how they aren’t the same player. But at least we can start from them not being the same age.

Because if you REALLY don’t see why they’d move on from a declining aging player to replace his future production with a young skill forward…I just don’t even know what to tell you.

Yeah. This lazy comparison is driving me insane as well. Necas is a stud, it is unlikely we get him, and he will be a positive addition to whoever gets him.

A young speedy offensive driver is skinner because he isn’t physically tough to play against…