The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[TageGod]

Bored posters trolling I assume. Fans have no patience, anyone who isn't incredible needs to be moved now.

 

[Beerz]

You're not going to improve the team trading Owen Power, unless like Draisaitl is coming with an extension.

This reminds me of 2 years ago before Dahlin had come out of the Krueger-effect and some twitter folks wanted to trade for him Connor McMichael to 'improve the team'.

We can make this team a playoff team without going straight to moving our top assets. As I told someone else I debated about this 'when Murray went for ROR in 2015, he didn't lead with trying to trade Reinhart for him.'

"Anyone should be available to improve the team" is just political bull-horning. Good teams identify the core and improve around it. Power is part of the core.

Everyone uses the Dahlin comparison. There is no comparison. Dahlin came in as an 18 yr old... he didn't have a "Dahlin" to play behind.. he was the Dahlin. Even thru his struggles his talent shined thru on both sides of ice... had a hunger to improve and learn. He engaged into the play since the moment he got into league. I've never questioned Dahlins ability and have never wanted to trade him.

You can build around your core.. you can also tweak your core and replace your core with other core pieces.

 

[Gabrielor]

Everyone uses the Dahlin comparison. There is no comparison. Dahlin came in as an 18 yr old... he didn't have a "Dahlin" to play behind.. he was the Dahlin. Even thru his struggles his talent shined thru on both sides of ice... had a hunger to improve and learn. He engaged into the play since the moment he got into league. I've never questioned Dahlins ability and have never wanted to trade him.

You can build around your core.. you can also tweak your core and replace your core with other core pieces.

Owen Power is 21.5 and is already putting up some strong numbers.

I'm sorry, you don't trade this. I don't care how much people rage about how he plays in front of his own net.


We actually agree that there's only 2 core guys (untouchables) presently, we just disagree on one. You say it's Dahlin-6K (crazy; he had 4 good months and Levi exists), and I say it's Dahlin-Power.

 

[Fjordy]

Well, there's really no point in trading Power, only in some blockbuster deal that naturally won't happen. I would understand if we didn't have some other assets, but we have a ton of them. Trade 1st, 2nd, any prospect in the right deal, Krebs, Jokiharju. We don't need much, find a 3C (who can even be obtained for free and it can work), find a few good fourth liners and a top 4 RD to play with the same Power or Byram.

 

[Dingo44]

Combine over and still barely a single rumor out there. The media needs to get their heads out of their asses

I found some pretty interesting stuff, but not exactly rumors:

https://www.flohockey.tv/articles/12626817-2024-nhl-draft-scouting-combine-notebook-what-teams-learned-who-impressed

10 things learned from 2024 NHL Scouting Combine | NHL.com

Top prospect Celebrini compared to Bedard; Lindstrom, Parekh aim to inspire; Iginla meets with dad's former team

www.nhl.com

Combine Notebook | Catton on his growth, Sabres connections, and more | Buffalo Sabres

The 2024 NHL Scouting Combine culminated with fitness testing and media interviews on Saturday.

www.nhl.com

https://thehockeynews.com/news/the-top-performers-and-standouts-at-the-2024-nhl-draft-combine

2024 NHL Draft Combine Notebook: What we learned

Here’s a look at the most exciting and interesting tidbits from media day at the combine.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

 

[Jacob582]

I'm let's trade anyone if it improves team guy... only untouchables are Dahlin and Ullmark

I agree. Except I very much dislike Ullmark now a days.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

Power for Crouse would be incredibly poor asset management.

Byram for Crouse….


Which would ultimately be Mitts for Crouse.

 

[Dingo44]

Byram for Crouse….


Which would ultimately be Mitts for Crouse.

I'd do Joker + for Crouse.

We have a lot of ammo for trades - 2024 1st, 2nd, 2025 1st, 2nd, Joker, Krebs, Kulich, Rosen,...

 

[Jacob582]

Utah are buyers. Not selling their best players but I would take Keller, Schmaltz or Crouse.

 

[Gabrielor]

Utah are buyers. Not selling there best players but I would take Keller, Schmaltz or Crouse.

I'd love to sell them Conor Clifton.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Utah are buyers. Not selling their best players but I would take Keller, Schmaltz or Crouse.

Peterka for Crouse. And people would hate that trade

 

[Mattilaus]

Bored posters trolling I assume. Fans have no patience, anyone who isn't incredible needs to be moved now.

These boards and this thread are specifically designated to throw around ideas about the roster and potential moves. People disagreeing with you doesn't mean they are trolling. Just relax.

 

[Gras]

 

[Fjordy]

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Buch seems like a perfect addition to our team. Although there are some weird names on the list.

 

[Beerz]

I agree. Except I very much dislike Ullmark now a days.

oh Christ haha.

 

[TehDoak]

The 2020-21 opening night roster. Adams was gifted a ton of talent and didn't add the right pieces to round it out into a real team. They finished dead last. If you want to argue that it was all Kreugers fault, then why hasn't Adams been able to add the right pieces to round it out into a real team in any of the past 3 seasons either?

We had 4 forwards who went on to be good or even great elsewhere, 4 who were borderline NHLers and the rest are still here.

The defense had 2 guys who are still here and 4 guys who have gone on to be good or even great elsehwere.

Ullmark went on to be great elsewhere and Hutton went blind.
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Navigated it well? He navigated it to last place. And 0 playoff appearances in each of the next 3 seasons.

The 2020 offseason should have been a clear sign that Adams was going to be a problem.

The Sabres had a few key needs:

-Scoring depth. They needed to fill out under their top line, Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart.
- Top 4 d-man
- Two way center.
- Tandem goalie to play with Ullmark because Hutton was terrible.

They added Staal, Hall, and Eakin. The Hall deal ate up all their cap space they had to imrprove the team. Combine that with Eichel basically being limited and then out the whole season. We had one good line of offense that carried us to .500 the previous year. When Eichel went down, the team realize the coach was full of shit and everyone packed up.

Adams rarely gets any blame there, but in the inability to idenitify the team needs, at a basic level, and address it by Adams has been a core competency issue since he's been the GM.

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800603638752231548

 

[Aladyyn]

Peterka for Crouse. And people would hate that trade

For good reason

 

[MarkusKetterer]

For good reason

I like Peterka, but I’d rather have Crouse and Quinn over Peterka and Quinn. And if Utah moves him, they’ll want an NHL guy back. The prospects aren’t gonna cut it.

 

[Fjordy]

I like Peterka, but I’d rather have Crouse and Quinn over Peterka and Quinn. And if Utah moves him, they’ll want an NHL guy back. The prospects aren’t gonna cut it.

The problem is we are losing our young top 6 winger. I like Crouse, but he is even less productive than Peterka, although he will add physical presence. Probably not the easiest trade target, but we can find someone else to fill that role and not give up Peterka.

 

[Gras]

I like Peterka, but I’d rather have Crouse and Quinn over Peterka and Quinn. And if Utah moves him, they’ll want an NHL guy back. The prospects aren’t gonna cut it.

Joker or Sammy + Rosen

 

[Chainshot]

I could see Jokiharju as someone Utah HC could use. I don’t see them giving up Crouse though.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I could see Jokiharju as someone Utah HC could use. I don’t see them giving up Crouse though.

Speaking of Arizona/Utah, the ATW guys are saying they're hearing Buffalo is interested in UFA-to-be Liam O'Brien. Probably a Girgs replacement, plus fighting ability? I've literally never noticed him on the ice, but I don't tend to watch Arizona games unless they're playing buffalo the past few seasons.

 

[BFLO]

There's some tilting here. The only guys that went and did great were eichel, reino and Montour. You're including VO as still here? So much talent but he couldn't "round out" the roster? C'mon man.

That team underperformed for a lot of reasons and some of them were the dynamic, horrid coaching, and players giving up or offering retirement play. You don't really believe that this historic roster was a couple of pieces away from the playoffs, do you? Please say no.

You forgot Ullmark.

So that's 4 players who have had at least 1 star season (or playoff run) since leaving Buffalo.

4 solid depth players who were asked to play too high up the lineup that he inherited in Miller, McCabe, Risto and Lazar. All of them have been solid on their new teams in lower roles than they played in Buffalo.

5 guys that Adams brought in who sucked big time in Reider, Sheahan, Eakin, Staal and Hall.

And 1 slug in Hutton that he inherited.

+ all of the other players that are still here.

 

[truthbluth]

Speaking of Arizona/Utah, the ATW guys are saying they're hearing Buffalo is interested in UFA-to-be Liam O'Brien. Probably a Girgs replacement, plus fighting ability? I've literally never noticed him on the ice, but I don't tend to watch Arizona games unless they're playing buffalo the past few seasons.

Jesus. Do you know how hard it is to be a -6% relative corsi on the 2nd worst corsi team in the league. I know it's an over simplified stat but my goodness.