The Rise And Fall Of Mike Sullivan...

[SteelCityCannon]

Because Guentzel wasn't going to re-sign and the other guys have no interest in being traded + have NMCs.

You really think Jake says no if Pittsburgh offers him the same deal? I have to disagree.

 

[RedRocking]

Well it’s been over Five Years since he won a playoff round. But, ya know It Ain’t Easy staying on top in the NHL. Crosby is a Starman, and Sully is his Soul Love, so they go on forever in their Moonage Daydream, ooh yea!

 

[ClydeLee]

Imagine thinking that shitting on Dubas somehow excuses Sullivan.

Very few Penguins fans would argue against the thought that Dubas has done a terrible job as the Penguins GM. That doesn't change that Sullivan has been an awful coach for the Penguins for pretty much 5 years now. Any normal team would have fired him sometime in the 2020-2022 timeframe, yet it's about to be 2025 and we're still watching him.

Bylsma won a cup in 2009 and had playoff failure after failure after that. Despite that, he won a playoff series in 2010, 2 playoff series in 2013 and a playoff series in 2014 before he was fired after 2014. Sullivan hasn't won a playoff series since 2018 and they're now about to be 3 years missing the playoffs, yet there is literally zero question about Sullivan's job security.

Or if you want another example, Quenneville won 3 cups for the Hawks from 2010-2015. They then lost in the 1st round in 2016 and 2017, missed the playoffs in 2018 and was fired early in 2018-2019. Quenneville had more success yet still didn't last 5 playoff losses and 3 missed playoffs after his last cup.

So the lesson of the Hawks and Quenneville was what in your mind?

Because the team was bad and spiraled worse without them. Fans claiming he holding them back for years weren't validated. The same things happened with the Kings and Sutter.

 

[nbwingsfan]

They might be the worst team in the NHL this season

 

[Pancakes]

You really think Jake says no if Pittsburgh offers him the same deal? I have to disagree.

I think Jake probably lets it go to UFA regardless, yeah.