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The Revival of Powerforward Pierre-Luc Dubois, and how the LA Kings Failed Terribly

The Shadow said:
I’m talking about the following season. 1 year after they left they had more points and a higher points percentage.

And this goes for all the teams he’s played on. They soon get better than when he was there.
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You can’t just pick 2 years after a guys left a team in junior as a comparison man lol. The amount of player turnover is crazy, it was an entirely new roster with nothing to do with PLD.

I’d be shocked in 4 players on the Eagles 2015-2016 roster were present on the 2018-2019 roster.

Ya gotta compare apples to apples otherwise the comparison doesn’t make any sense.
 
Emerz said:
You can’t just pick 2 years after a guys left a team in junior as a comparison man lol. The amount of player turnover is crazy, it was an entirely new roster with nothing to do with PLD.

I’d be shocked in 4 players on the Eagles 2015-2016 roster were present on the 2018-2019 roster.

Ya gotta compare apples to apples otherwise the comparison doesn’t make any sense.
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We are talking about 1 year after he left. That’s it.
 
The Kings got Keumper in return and he's been putting up solid numbers this year. So both teams are happy but Dubois has been very good in Washington this year. The big question will be, can he keep up this level of play for the next few years on his contract? Doubt it.
 
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NikF said:
The impressive parts of Washington are goaltending, blueline depth, the emergence of Protas and McMichael and coaching.
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You lose credibility when you say McMichael has more to do with Washington's success this year than Dubois. Only one of those two is a core player right now, and it's not the guy who's massively slowed down since November.
 
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Danarqhy said:
Pierre-Luc Dubois is playing well this season, he has 39 points in 49 games and is showing good effort. He was acquired by the LA kings for Gabriel Vilardi (who is having a monster season), Kupari and Iafallo. After paying a king's ransom for PLD's services, LA jettisoned him barely 1 year later for an aging goalie (was seen as basically being given away for free at the time).

Now to be fair, the LA Kings are a good team but that is in spite of making not one, but two disastrous PLD trades. How much better would they be if they still had Vilardi and co, or if they had this version of PLD playing for them? Probably cup contenders.

Discuss.
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How is his D this year?

I have an untested theory that because the Kings play a 1-3-1 that forced PLD to play a certain way that was against his skills and its no wonder he cratered there. He was never a good fit there, and signing him longterm before he even played a game was an unforced error by Rob Blake.

PLD does have have is warts though and we'll see if he can keep it up. Given history over the teams he has played for long term motivation seems to be his issue, but if Washington keeps winning, he probably keeps his head in the game.

But yah, the Kings fumbled hard on him
 
the kings will remain in mediocrity for as long as the three stooges have ANYTHING to do with the team in any capacity. those 3 boys are living proof you too can be completely incompetent and succeed as a manager.
 
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Oilslick941611 said:
How is his D this year?

I have an untested theory that because the Kings play a 1-3-1 that forced PLD to play a certain way that was against his skills and its no wonder he cratered there. He was never a good fit there, and signing him longterm before he even played a game was an unforced error by Rob Blake.

PLD does have have is warts though and we'll see if he can keep it up. Given history over the teams he has played for long term motivation seems to be his issue, but if Washington keeps winning, he probably keeps his head in the game.

But yah, the Kings fumbled hard on him
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I don't have the stats but just by watching he has to be one of the best forwards on the team at getting the puck out of the defensive zone/through neutral with possession. I thought they would struggle more with this since it's the one thing Kuznetsov could be counted on to do while sleepwalking last year but Dubois is impressively smooth.

There will be shifts where maybe they're halfway through a change defensively or hemmed in, or some other less ideal situation, and he's been really good at identifying those moments and taking over. You can almost see it, he’ll look for the right play and if it’s not there his body language just says “okay I’ll get it down there myself” and before you know it he’s past 3F, carving out space 1-on-2 through neutral AND finding guys instead of dumping it.

I think he’s been a safe/great choice for matchups when you can’t afford to stick a “matchup center” like Dowd with somebody all night
 
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I don't have the stats but just by watching he has to be one of the best forwards on the team at getting the puck out of the defensive zone/through neutral with possession. I thought they would struggle more with this since it's the one thing Kuznetsov could be counted on to do while sleepwalking last year but Dubois is impressively smooth.

There will be shifts where maybe they're halfway through a change defensively or hemmed in, or some other less ideal situation, and he's been really good at identifying those moments and taking over. You can almost see it, he’ll look for the right play and if it’s not there his body language just says “okay I’ll get it down there myself” and before you know it he’s past 3F, carving out space 1-on-2 through neutral AND finding guys instead of dumping it.

I think he’s been a safe/great choice for matchups when you can’t afford to stick a “matchup center” like Dowd with somebody all night
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I was just asking because I dont watch Washington or most eastern teams at all. But i did see him on Winnipeg and LA.

Sometimes its more about finding the right fit, than being the guy. Seems like Washington won that trade in a landslide.
 
The Shadow said:
There was a youtube video on this showing how
In his career dating back to Jr every team he played on got worse when he arrived. And better when he left

Until now

I wonder how things will go next year and the year after once the new coach bump fades


Let her rest then and stop throwing her name into arguments
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New coach? Everything about your post is simply asinine
 
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McShogun99 said:
4 teams in 9 seasons. On the verge of getting bought out last off season. He probably saw Washington as his last chance to prove that he can be a good NHL player and has stepped up so far.
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To be fair to PLD, I can see why he struggled to play well for the other teams. Columbus had torts, Winnipeg is cold/depressing, LA's team style is boring. Whereas Washington has Ovi, it's exciting, there's an energy around them. Kinda like Laine in Montreal. He struggled in 2 of the same teams as PLD, and now he's playing for an exciting team in a building full of passionate fans. The change in environment has really helped these guys.

Maybe it won't last, but it's been a nice resurgence for PLD.
 
I’m pretty sure Rob Blake’s original plan in early 2019 (once the 2018/2019 went off the rails) was to draft very high in 2019 and 2020, hopefully hit big on both the top 5 picks, still have Doughty and Kopitar at a pretty high level to go with the two young stars, and then add a veteran or two sometime around 2021/2022 to begin contending again.

Unfortunately that plan went off the rails when Blake chose the wrong players with both of those top 5 picks in 2019 and 2020. In 2021 he decided to move ahead without the young pieces in place (big mistake), went out and got his championship caliber 3C in Danault but knew the team was dead in the water as far as contending with Danault playing 2C. That is why the PLD (taking a swing on a flawed 2C) trade happened and the Fiala (scoring) happened. And these ended up being two of the worst NHL trades of the 2020’s.

The original plan needed to hit big on both picks, but it could have easily worked. Had LA come out of those drafts with say Tim Stutzle and Cole Caufield or Dylan Cozens and Lucas Raymond they not only have those players but they very likely also still have Brock Faber and Gabe Vilardi and would be without question one of the best teams in the NHL.

The poor decisions at the draft table are why PLD was ever a King in the first place.
 
Herregud said:
PLD threads always seem to attract people that live in the past who enjoy telling others to beware the future.
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Like Evander Kane. The funny thing as no one has yet to be proven wrong in either case, even where there are periods which seem to suggest it.
 
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