And when he inevitably gets bored and stops trying, will Washington be able to offload that horrendous contract like the kings did?
Time will tell.
The Revival of Powerforward Pierre-Luc Dubois, and how the LA Kings Failed Terribly
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Dumais
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I don't think the contract is bad on paper, just needs to get his head right. Whatever the problem. It maybe that once his contract kicked in and he had no more choice where he plays; it may have been a turning point. He's no longer a kid and should be the person he is now, going forward. I really do hope he does well and it was all immaturity.
Time will tell, good start tho cap fans!
Time will tell, good start tho cap fans!
PLD threads always seem to attract people that live in the past who enjoy telling others to beware the future.
Aggie204
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It’s called pattern recognition, look at his last 3 clubs. It was an effort and/or attitude thing. Glad he is in the East.
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PLD has been IMO the Caps' most consistent performer and routinely over the past month especially has been (along with Protas) the only consistent source of offense and puck possession while the rest of the team has struggled immensely. He already did have his "slump" early on in the year when he couldn't buy a goal and that hasn't stopped him at all.
I'm not saying that it wasn't the right move for LAK to move on from him or that he wasn't frustrating last year, but the inability of people to take in new information in general and about this player specifically is mind-boggling.
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I think there's enough history that most people are waiting for him to prove that he's matured and moved past the things he's shown earlier in his career. The skill is most definitely there, but there's a reason he's on his 4th team at 26 years old.
NyQuil
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I think it has more to do with Washington and how well the chemistry is working on that team.
If he were still in LA, I think PLD would still be playing the same way he’d been doing for years now.
If he were still in LA, I think PLD would still be playing the same way he’d been doing for years now.
You kind of answered your own question. Not sure where this idea came from that if a player can play center they HAVE to play center. Put someone at wing and call it a day. You will always have injuries, you will always have guys caught out of position during games, you will always have guys getting removed from the dot.
If a guy can play center, he can play wing. It's a complete non-issue.
If I had someone that I had a giant problem with and couldn't wait to get away from, I wouldn't waste time badmouthing them to whoever was willing to listen.
Why should I look at his last three clubs when he is one of two forwards who are currently and consistently carrying the team. All of the responses I've gotten have been basically been "What happens when the team's not playing well? We'll see the real PLD then!". The team's not been great the last two months and he's still just chugging along as one of the most consistent and hardworking forwards on the team.
Why can't people be allowed to be happy about the present? What was, was. What will be, will be.
he is 26 years old, going to record his 4th 60+ point season. Id figure he will produce at 2C level in the future aswell.
You can argue his caphit is a bit high for the production, but..
What ive been highly impressed as a Caps fan (granted, just 50 games in) is his commitment on defence. He has been absolute beast on breaking out of own zone and gaining puck possession. With Protas he has also been the most consistent performer (not including goalies) night in night out.
If he keeps this up he is easily worth the contract and will be a massive factor for the Caps for the next years to come. And to add to that, he was a bit snake bitten to start the season. With just a little more luck there he could already have 50 points in the books.
Sometimes it just doesnt work somewhere. Kings and Dubois wasnt meant to be. Both sides failed there, no need to bash either one. Glad Kuemper is doing well, so you guys didnt leave this saga empty handed.
The Golden Star system is just plain stupid though. You treat a player like that and expect him to committ, good luck.
You can argue his caphit is a bit high for the production, but..
What ive been highly impressed as a Caps fan (granted, just 50 games in) is his commitment on defence. He has been absolute beast on breaking out of own zone and gaining puck possession. With Protas he has also been the most consistent performer (not including goalies) night in night out.
If he keeps this up he is easily worth the contract and will be a massive factor for the Caps for the next years to come. And to add to that, he was a bit snake bitten to start the season. With just a little more luck there he could already have 50 points in the books.
Sometimes it just doesnt work somewhere. Kings and Dubois wasnt meant to be. Both sides failed there, no need to bash either one. Glad Kuemper is doing well, so you guys didnt leave this saga empty handed.
The Golden Star system is just plain stupid though. You treat a player like that and expect him to committ, good luck.
I'm not surprised he bounced back. The Kings generally have a very poor understanding of how to utilize certain types of players who don't immediately fit their defensive system. With that being said, I don't think I've ever seen a worse effort from a player in a Kings uniform.
Glad Kuemper is having a bounce back season as well. It's a rare win-win so far, if you ignore the trade that brought him to the Kings in the first place.
Glad Kuemper is having a bounce back season as well. It's a rare win-win so far, if you ignore the trade that brought him to the Kings in the first place.
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The thing with inconsistent players with a bad motor is that they rarely keep it up over the long term.
He is a toolsy player who will never play above his tools but often below. He's doing alright on a team that had no expectations coming into the season and is in a good environment. The expectations for him were so low that any time he plays in line with the bare minimum you would expect given his contract people tend to positively overreact. I've seen him around 6-7 times this season and have zero desire to have him on my team.
The impressive parts of Washington are goaltending, blueline depth, the emergence of Protas and McMichael and coaching. They are riding a good energy-wave and seem to have a very cohesive unit of guys under Carbery but they are not serious Cup contenders and will likely come back to earth next season. You aren't winning anything with Strome-Dubois down the middle.
The impressive parts of Washington are goaltending, blueline depth, the emergence of Protas and McMichael and coaching. They are riding a good energy-wave and seem to have a very cohesive unit of guys under Carbery but they are not serious Cup contenders and will likely come back to earth next season. You aren't winning anything with Strome-Dubois down the middle.
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Lets see he have been consistent in his play from the start for the Capitals. That he didnt fit in a 3rd line for the Kings doesnt really matter much.
I dont really see the talk about him not being consistent. After his rookie season for Columbus he had a 60+ point season. In the shortened 19/20 season he wasnt that far off a 60 point pace and had 10 point in 10 in the playoffs. 20/21 was a weak season for him in his first year with Winnipeg in the shortened season. Then he went on to have two 60+ point seasons that made Kings want him. There he was put on the third line and produced accordingly.
So in 4 of his 6 years he was pretty much around 60 point pace and is once again this year for 5 out of 7 seasons after his rookie year. On the Kings he wasnt really put in a situation to succeed as he was put on the third line early on. The rest of his career he played for Columbus and Winnipeg two teams known for having players that want out.
So I would say he is a pretty consistent 60+ producer and the Kings year is more of an outlier in a negative direction. He was on a 71 point pace in 82 games in his last season with Winnipeg. So the play he is delievering for the Capitals is what the Kings wanted when they signed him. He plays a solid two way game while producing at a good level. Not top tier production of course, but he is hard to play against and have stopped the best players regularly this year.
He is the best forward on the team along with Protas this year. The first line had insane chemistry before Ovi's injury, but after that its been all PLD and Protas taking care of the offence.
PLD is doing what he was signed for. Produce 60+ with his current increase he might reach 70 points this year and playing a very solid two way game.
Emerz
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I probably pumped PLDs tires more than any person on the planet earth in his draft year so I’m happy to see he’s still capable of playing how I expected him to.
The Shadow
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There was a youtube video on this showing how
In his career dating back to Jr every team he played on got worse when he arrived. And better when he left
Until now
I wonder how things will go next year and the year after once the new coach bump fades
In his career dating back to Jr every team he played on got worse when he arrived. And better when he left
Until now
I wonder how things will go next year and the year after once the new coach bump fades
Let her rest then and stop throwing her name into arguments
Im interested in hearing how Columbus got better when he left.
Playoffs the three years he was there. When he left they have gone: 29th, 31st, 21st and 28th in the league. LAK is pacing for 101 points now and had 99 points last year so only a small difference there. Pretty much only Winnipeg that have started taking more points and they got better mostly because LAK overpayed a lot and Morrissey etc have improved a lot since then. But Columbus got so much worse when he left.
They lost in the QMJHL final when he got traded Blainville-Boisbrand the year before they lost in the quarter final. I dont really see how he made them worse by being their second higherst scoring player in that run.
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Emerz
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What…? Definitely not true at all lol. I saw every game PLD played for Cape Breton and he was the hardest working player on the ice night in and night out while putting up 1.5PPG or so.
We certainly didn’t get better when PLD was moved in his 19 year old season lol.
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The following season after he left though the team was better without him points wise and that is what it showed. It was talking about how his history showed that teams he played on would soon get better once he left. In this case it was 2 seasons after
The same thing happened in Winnipeg and now Colombus. Teams are better without him
It didn't really just stop at the WPG/LAK trade.
LAK also shipped off Durzi, Walker, picks, and took on $2M of Provorov's money while restructuring the team to build around PLD.
The fact that Blake wasn't fired for the mess he made is incredible.
Emerz
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Well I’m telling you that isn’t true lol, Dubois lead the eagles to a 38-25-5-1 season in 2015-2016 and they had the exact same point percentage the next season where he played half the year before being traded.
The following season (no Dubois at all) the eagles were just a hair above .500 which was in the bottom quarter of the league.
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I’m talking about the following season. 1 year after they left they had more points and a higher points percentage.
And this goes for all the teams he’s played on. They soon get better than when he was there.
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