Put the tin foil hat away. The league doesn't even determine who wins the Calder.
Hockey writers do. Now if you want tobargue they don't know much and tend to just look at points go for it.
The Race for the Calder Trophy
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Hockey writers do. Now if you want tobargue they don't know much and tend to just look at points go for it.
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Ah yes, the guy who names himself JFieldsOverBedard calls it right down the middle.
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I didn't move any goal posts, and he very easily could have got the puck deep instead of tossing a muffin across the blue line.
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It's hilarious that you think Hughes has anything to do with my opinion on Bedard.
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You criticized him for his defense on that goal, and when I and others explained how it wasn't Bedard's fault (it was redirected/bad luck) you redirected your criticism to the pass.
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The pass is a bad defensive play, I explicitly mentioned his decision making in high risk areas. How do you not understand that?
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Keep moving goal posts.
That's not a source/quote.
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I don't think you know what goal post moving is. Nice moves by Bedard, he's an incredible offensive talent. Unfortunately it was offside.
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It's what you were doing.
May not count on the scoreboard, but a few inches had no impact on the play, Just another demonstration of why he's the Calder contestant leader.
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Except it wasn't, as already explained. Do you not understand how a bad giveaway is a bad defensive play?
He's definitely a top 2 candidate. He's going to be a whale of a player, especially as he matures his all around game.
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It's probably something basically like this:
Bedard's offense ~ Faber's defense
Faber's offense > Bedard's defense
So Faber is initially ahead. Now it's just a matter of how much extra credit you want to give Bedard for being 18 and playing with shit players.
Bedard's offense ~ Faber's defense
Faber's offense > Bedard's defense
So Faber is initially ahead. Now it's just a matter of how much extra credit you want to give Bedard for being 18 and playing with shit players.
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Nobody calls a bad play in the offensive zone a bad defensive play. Well, nobody but you apparently.
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He's THE candidate and you can tell from watching him. 18 year old 1C carrying the offensive load on a team that without him scores at 1.36 GF/game. He has no help and is still looking fantastic. It is more impressive than what Faber is doing, as great of a season as he is having. The proof will be in the pudding when Bedard wins the award.
Could not agree more people are really trying to downplay just how good he is
The thing that works against Faber is people inherently get more excited by great offense than great defense. Bedard will get more votes because of that. Also since he is only 18 and his team completely fell apart when he was injured.
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This is patently false. When you say things like this it makes you look like someone who's new to the game.
Managing the puck at both blue lines is key in reducing chances against.
Faber is a fine candidate but it's bedards to lose. His impact is just insane for a rookie.
Well, that's only like 4 or so posters on here doing that - but man do they do it....
As a Hawks fan, who cares if he wins or not? Crosby and McDavid don’t have Calders in their hardware cabinet. Just be happy we got this guy.
Faber has as compelling an argument as Bedard to win the trophy.
Faber has as compelling an argument as Bedard to win the trophy.
Bedard IS Chicago's offense. Worse numbers for Faber than I thought they would be, but they do align with how much he's struggled defensively since about Christmas. His defensive impact has been much overstated as a whole. Very good for a rookie, but not nearly as good as the narrative.
The only thing that could keep Bedard from winning is another significant injury. It's always been the only thing to stop him.
Bedard's offensive is superior to Faber's defense. That stats speak for themselves. And since that is side of the game that matches what their teams needs most from them, Bedard is the deserving heavy favorite.
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Does anyone have Chicago's record with and without Bedard? I'm not sure where to find that.
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Nah. Roughly the same, all things being equal. Then it's just a matter of how much extra credit you feel like giving, like I said.
His defense is better than you're saying.
Sort of like what this thread is entirely about.
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