Speculation: The Quest to sign Lindholm: Part II

[dracom]

Some of what is said here is speculating, some is fact, some is quoting insiders. All of it is fine in context. Trying to pass off you opinion as a fact is ********.

And regardless of your efforts here, it won't make your Trouba problem disappear.

Maybe if he keeps saying there's some actual hidden hate that Lindholm has for Murray and the Ducks that's keeping him from signing, then he can get Lindholm for Trouba done in his mind.

 

[Redline]

I know in the past when players miss the 1st 10-15 games of the season they tend to have a heck of a time getting up to pace.
Get the guy signed already.

 

[sxvnert]

Didn't say they retained. just said they are only paying half his cap, since the leafs paid his bonus which left the Ducks only having to pay for like 2.1 million I think. Just correcting the guy said Murray made the signing.

Got it

 

[aj8000]

Yes, I know. The other poster was talking about how Murray overpaid for Bernier, as in signed him to his current deal. He didn't, I was correcting him that he traded for him and only paid 2 million (roughly half his cap hit) so he saving actual money which is always helpful.




Bob is reporting the money he is hearing, that has nothing to do with anything else. All we've been talking about with regards to Bob's report is the money. We're not talking about anything other than the money, which you keep believing isn't true because of...conspiracy?

The rest of your comment has nothing to do with my post about Bob's report on the money. We know Murray has screwed up the cap. We know we'll most likely have to make a trade that hurts in order to get Lindholm signed.

I'm shocked you think the Ducks organization is telling Bob what the contract situation is. Even if they did, you think they would just lie about the money? Again, you're reaching for something that isn't there.

Bob speculates, I speculate, most of what is posted here is speculation. I did not realize I was required to only post fact on a discussion forum that is full of speculation.

I am sorry you guys do not like my speculation; however, until Lindholm signs, you cannot be 100% sure of the reason why he has not signed. Would you prefer if I start all my posts with "this is speculation"?

 

[lindholmie]

is this a trouba thread. why so many jet fans

 

[pbgoalie]

We signe Rakell to a pretty decent deal,
And reports are that Bob and Hampus are close.

Fact is, if Hampus did take a decent home team deal, the Ducks are still above
The former budget, as well as cap limited.

Bob has been very good, but he screwed this up

He has been pretty decent at unravelling his mistakes, I hope he has a magic bullet,
My optimism is a bit weary though

 

[aj8000]

is this a trouba thread. why so many jet fans

We are tired of the Trouba Trade thread talk not to mention it is unfair that the Trouba thread is on like thread five and this one is only on two.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Bob speculates, I speculate, most of what is posted here is speculation. I did not realize I was required to only post fact on a discussion forum that is full of speculation.

I am sorry you guys do not like my speculation; however, until Lindholm signs, you cannot be 100% sure of the reason why he has not signed. Would you prefer if I start all my posts with "this is speculation"?

Stop with all the drama. You got called out for trying to pass off your opinion as a fact. Deal with it and move on.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We are tired of the Trouba Trade thread talk not to mention it is unfair that the Trouba thread is on like thread five and this one is only on two.

That's because we also have to deal with new lindholm vatanen Montour Theodore and fowler trade threads every day.

Not to mention trouba actually requested a trade so technically it would seem he is available, so that thread should be further along... lindholm threads are basically fans trying to under pay for lindholm thinking we have to trade him and a lot of bs speculation.

 

[Exit Dose]

We are tired of the Trouba Trade thread talk not to mention it is unfair that the Trouba thread is on like thread five and this one is only on two.

This is a thread about re-signing a player. The Trouba thread is about trading a player. It's unfair? Grow up. Ducks fans didn't cause your ****ing problem. Trouba did.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I know in the past when players miss the 1st 10-15 games of the season they tend to have a heck of a time getting up to pace.
Get the guy signed already.

I'm not sure we have to worry about that with lindholm his conditioning has always been pretty good, hell be a little rusty I'm sure but we also have a lot of good dmen that he doesn't have to be heavily relied on when he comes back.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

I haven't been here long but what is up with Winnipeg fanbase here infatuation with Anaheim players/situations?

 

[Sojourn]

I'm not sure we have to worry about that with lindholm his conditioning has always been pretty good, hell be a little rusty I'm sure but we also have a lot of good dmen that he doesn't have to be heavily relied on when he comes back.

I actually agree with Redline here, but not because of conditioning. I'm not worried about Lindholm's conditioning. I am worried that he might start off like he did last season, where he was inexplicably having trouble skating and handling the puck.

It's way too early to suggest a pattern there, and even if there is a pattern, I wouldn't let it influence the negotiations.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I haven't been here long but what is up with Winnipeg fanbase here infatuation with Anaheim players/situations?

No one really knows, prob has something to do with their superior players but drafting in top 5 I'd guess. Maybe past anger from the playoff series, upset about the selanne trade... try to sell trouba as being on same tier as lindholm but no one is buying it, unwilling to accept Fowler is on same tier as trouba.


Could be anything

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I actually agree with Redline here, but not because of conditioning. I'm not worried about Lindholm's conditioning. I am worried that he might start off like he did last season, where he was inexplicably having trouble skating and handling the puck.

It's way too early to suggest a pattern there, and even if there is a pattern, I wouldn't let it influence the negotiations.

But at the same time it's not like he has to be the #1. He can play limited mins till he finds his legs, Fowler has looked great so far, our defense has been pretty solid with out lindholm , yes he's important but he can play on 2nd pair till he's in form.

 

[Sojourn]

But at the same time it's not like he has to be the #1. He can play limited mins till he finds his legs, Fowler has looked great so far, our defense has been pretty solid with out lindholm , yes he's important but he can play on 2nd pair till he's in form.

I agree completely. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't let it influence negotiations. If it is something that happens again, it would be happening regardless. And, really, it would be further evidence that he doesn't deserve to be paid like a #1 just yet.

That's all assuming it happens again. He could have a great start, and it would be just as unsurprising. He's always taken his conditioning very seriously. There would be a bit of time getting up to game speed, but he wouldn't need to come in and carry the entire weight of the blue line himself. They can work him into it a bit.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I agree completely. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't let it influence negotiations. If it is something that happens again, it would be happening regardless. And, really, it would be further evidence that he doesn't deserve to be paid like a #1 just yet.

That's all assuming it happens again. He could have a great start, and it would be just as unsurprising. He's always taken his conditioning very seriously. There would be a bit of time getting up to game speed, but he wouldn't need to come in and carry the entire weight of the blue line himself. They can work him into it a bit.

The way we played our pairings last season we didn't really have a #1 pairing seemed more like a 1a 1b , the mins were evenly spread amongst our top5, I think if Lindholm had to he would do fine as a #1, it's more of our depth holding him back Imo

 

[Stream*]

That's because we also have to deal with new lindholm vatanen Montour Theodore and fowler trade threads every day.

Not to mention trouba actually requested a trade so technically it would seem he is available, so that thread should be further along... lindholm threads are basically fans trying to under pay for lindholm thinking we have to trade him and a lot of bs speculation.

So fans trying to under pay for Lindholm is a crime but Murray trying to under payr Lindholm is just fine. Sounds like your GM started the trend, other fan bases are just following his queue.

 

[dracom]

We are tired of the Trouba Trade thread talk not to mention it is unfair that the Trouba thread is on like thread five and this one is only on two.

So you wanted to keep this going because you thought the Trouba threads were too much? Even though this is a trade board and he requested a trade? Wow, grow up dude.

 

[dracom]

So fans trying to under pay for Lindholm is a crime but Murray trying to under payr Lindholm is just fine. Sounds like your GM started the trend, other fan bases are just following his queue.

No one is saying it's a crime, lol. It's just weird that it's basically only Jets fans that like to stir things up, just look at what the the last Jets fans said on here. He thought it was unfair that the Trouba thread was so much, so he kept stirring things up in here to keep it going. Also, Murray isn't trying to underpay Lindholm, unless you think anything under 6 mil is underpaying and he should be getting Ekblad money.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

So fans trying to under pay for Lindholm is a crime but Murray trying to under payr Lindholm is just fine. Sounds like your GM started the trend, other fan bases are just following his queue.

Cept other teams fans proposals don't matter it'd just wishful thinking and being nieve

 

[Exit Dose]

So fans trying to under pay for Lindholm is a crime but Murray trying to under payr Lindholm is just fine. Sounds like your GM started the trend, other fan bases are just following his queue.

What does this even mean?

 

[Stream*]

Cept other teams fans proposals don't matter it'd just wishful thinking and being nieve

Nieve about what? Either he is a number 1 dman that is better than players like Reilly, Jones, trouba, Risto, and should be paid as such or he is not and he is on par with them and should be paid on par with them.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

So fans trying to under pay for Lindholm is a crime but Murray trying to under payr Lindholm is just fine. Sounds like your GM started the trend, other fan bases are just following his queue.

Lol what?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Nieve about what? Either he is a number 1 dman that is better than players like Reilly, Jones, trouba, Risto, and should be paid as such or he is not and he is on par with them and should be paid on par with them.

That he is available for trade.

I don't even get how you got to that statement from my original post. He is better then those players based on stats tho. And I think he should get a little more then them... but its not me paying his contract now is it?