Post-Game Talk: The Powerhouse @ Stars - 8:30 EST

[n8]

Honestly though the odds increase that much between 8th and 4th. 8-9/9-10 and 4-3/3-2 are the bigger jumps.

some one has does a statistical probably break out chart for these before. Since they pick three times, the probability of getting one of the 3 top 3 picks does change a bit.

 

[aufheben]

some one has does a statistical probably break out chart for these before. Since they pick three times, the probability of getting one of the 3 top 3 picks does change a bit.

I’m just going off of Tankathon. They have a column for overall chance to pick top-3, and a column for chance to pick #1.

 

[romba]

Not for noting, but Skjei has been pretty good for the last 25 games.

He's been better. More aggressive in the O zone taking the puck deep but it generally doesn't lead to much because he'll throw it on net from behind the net hoping for a bounce or deflection, or he'll carry the puck too long and get stripped/pinned/hit off the puck, but it does look pretty sweet to see him gliding down the wing and behind the net...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Didn't see 3rd but a bad 5 min major in a 1 goal game in the 3rd when a team is trying to mount a comeback is huge hill to overcome. Sucks, but what can you do. At least Dallas didn't score to mess up AG's stats.

Had no effect as Dallas basically looked like they downed an entire handle of vodka before the PP started.

Rangers didn't deserve to win that game anyway.

 

[haveandare]

You nailed it and for whatever reason our coaches fall in love with guys like that. Try hards over talent been like this for years and years.

He gets a whole 2 minutes more than Tony D on average including the early season games where Tony got light usage and Pionk played all day. And Mika is our top forward in TOI by a lot.

Pionk gets played too much but "try hard over talent" just isn't accurate with Quinn so far.

 

[leetch99]

Going to be very interesting when shesterkin gets here. Georgiev and Shesterkin are very similar goalies in style size etc. Hank isn’t going anywhere. One of these kids is going to be dealt Or in Hartford or in shesterkin’s case Possibly back to Russia. I don’t think that kid is leaving SKA to ride buses thru the minors.

Use the extra goalie chip to move up in this draft or next year one. That is what I would like to see happen. We then likely have to qualify a goalie for the Expansion Draft at some point .

 

[leetch99]

Please delete...glitch ?

 

[leetch99]

Please Delete.

 

[Leonardo87]

Thought this was interesting...

 

[duhmetreE]

I hate these f***ing charts

 

[romba]

Use the extra goalie chip to move up in this draft or next year one. That is what I would like to see happen. We then likely have to qualify a goalie for the Expansion Draft at some point .

(Unproven) Goalies have little value unfortunately these days. Too much of a crap shoot with them. You can throw them in the trade but unless they've proven themselves in the NHL or are hyped like Jesus Price, it's better to hang on to them and see if they develop.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Pionk's analytics away from Staal (who has been f***ing putrid over the last 30-ish games) are actually pretty good...

... But this is why its important to watch the games. Staal has been decaying, fly infested rhino shit, but Pionk has struggled enough, certainly hasn't played as well as his numbers sans Staal would suggest.

 

[egelband]

That call on Mika was probably a bit heavy but as @Tawnos says, the hit there was unnecessary. I personally think Mika was trying to seal off the guy and just screwed up. But whatever, calls like that happen.
The real issue is the lack of consistency in the officiating.
Anyhow, I think the Rangers got a huge officiating benefit for the first fifty minutes of the game. Not sure why people are complaining. Four of the first five penalties were in Dallas. They couldn’t capitalize. That’s on the Rangers.
And Dallas played pretty good defensively and their goalie is ridiculously massive.

 

[Tawnos]

That call on Mika was probably a bit heavy but as @Tawnos says, the hit there was unnecessary. I personally think Mika was trying to seal off the guy and just screwed up. But whatever, calls like that happen.
The real issue is the lack of consistency in the officiating.
Anyhow, I think the Rangers got a huge officiating benefit for the first fifty minutes of the game. Not sure why people are complaining. Four of the first five penalties were in Dallas. They couldn’t capitalize. That’s on the Rangers.
And Dallas played pretty good defensively and their goalie is ridiculously massive.

It's interesting that the league rescinded the call, since I think it was justified. And I agree, he just screwed up. He knew it right away too.

 

[eco's bones]

That call on Zibanejad was bad. Very much like the Shestyorkin situation last weekend. Bad call, refs give the game misconduct for the injury, not the action.

I've commented about Justin St. Pierre before---anytime he is part of the officiating crew I expect it will be a shit show that night. He's a terrible referee. In this case they put the blame on the linesman and maybe the linesman did a lot as far as making the call but you would think that at least one of the refs would have had a really good look at it since the play, three players and the puck was right there and yet it's like they needed the linesman to tell them what happened.

We hear all the time what a difficult job it is--but really us fans we watch the play. Is it too much to expect the referees to do the same?

 

[eco's bones]

That call on Mika was probably a bit heavy but as @Tawnos says, the hit there was unnecessary. I personally think Mika was trying to seal off the guy and just screwed up. But whatever, calls like that happen.
The real issue is the lack of consistency in the officiating.
Anyhow, I think the Rangers got a huge officiating benefit for the first fifty minutes of the game. Not sure why people are complaining. Four of the first five penalties were in Dallas. They couldn’t capitalize. That’s on the Rangers.
And Dallas played pretty good defensively and their goalie is ridiculously massive.

If you want to look at it that way you could say that all hits are unnecessary. Considering that each team was credited with 11 hits last night--that might not even have been counted as a hit if it weren't penalized. It wasn't that forceful and Mika IMO backed into him like that to put his body between Faksa and the puck. It looked like a hockey play to me.

 

[eco's bones]

I don't know what rescind exactly means here? That Dallas didn't get a 5 minute powerplay---that our best forward wasn't thrown out of the game? I don't think you can rescind that.

 

[Profet]

I don't know what rescind exactly means here? That Dallas didn't get a 5 minute powerplay---that our best forward wasn't thrown out of the game? I don't think you can rescind that.

It means this doesn't count towards the automatic suspension rule for Mika.

I believe after 3 misconducts you get an automatic suspension...and then with each additional misconduct you get an additional game ontop of that.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I don't know what rescind exactly means here? That Dallas didn't get a 5 minute powerplay---that our best forward wasn't thrown out of the game? I don't think you can rescind that.

The game misconduct is tossed out, so Zibanejad is not subject to suspension if he accumulates more is what I think it refers to.

 

[eco's bones]

It means this doesn't count towards the automatic suspension rule for Mika.

I believe after 3 misconducts you get an automatic suspension...and then with each additional misconduct you get an additional game ontop of that.

Like Mika's going to get two more misconducts before the year is out and even if he did what would it matter? Basically the NHL is admitting that their officiating crew f***ed that all up. Hopefully they take that into account when deciding who is going to officiate in the playoffs.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Thought this was interesting...
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[Machinehead]

Kreider lol

He's actually 6th or 7th in the whole damn league.

 

[Machinehead]

Jimmy Howard tomorrow!

 

[Lays]

Jimmy Howard tomorrow!

First Bishop and now Howard? NHL schedulers really helping our tank when it matters most, props to them

 

[Ghost of jas]

Kreider lol

He's actually 6th or 7th in the whole damn league.

But is he a 1st liner?

 

[Machinehead]

But is he a 1st liner?

4th liner on the Islanders

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I've commented about Justin St. Pierre before---anytime he is part of the officiating crew I expect it will be a **** show that night. He's a terrible referee. In this case they put the blame on the linesman and maybe the linesman did a lot as far as making the call but you would think that at least one of the refs would have had a really good look at it since the play, three players and the puck was right there and yet it's like they needed the linesman to tell them what happened.

We hear all the time what a difficult job it is--but really us fans we watch the play. Is it too much to expect the referees to do the same?

After the Shestyorkin ejection I kept hearing how the KHL is a bush league and this shit doesn't happen in the NHL. I only had to wait 48 hours for that to be debunked.