Post-Game Talk: The Powerhouse @ Canucks - 10 PM|MSG
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17futurecap
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7 of the next 8 where we will be pretty strong underdogs, with five on the road where we are flat out terrible. 5th worst record might still have a chance.
ReggieDunlop68
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I want to thank Kreider for f***ing this game up. These stupid assholes were going for the W.
Quinn thinks this is PAL.
Quinn thinks this is PAL.
n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
"can't even win against a water bottle?" or "has got (water) tanking on the mind?"
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egelband
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Wilson's MO isn't giving chintzy elbows. I agree that was a reasonable call but most players who get that elbow don't open up either. As Unbreakable himself said, it was a bloody nose. Not a concussion situation.
egelband
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Serious question. Think these refs are shaving points? I mean, what's to stop them from telling a family member, "Vancouver looks strong tonight..."
Are they incompetent or is there more to it? Either way, they suck. Just a thought.
egelband
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It seems like, every game the refs top themselves in terms of incompetence.
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Real quick on officiating, I’ve reffed hockey for 21 years. It’s a great game to officiate because hockey culture is so strong. That being said, the teams still put the puck in the net.
What’s happened at the NHL level is a lot of veteran Refs and Linesman have retired in recent years. Lots of younger and less experienced officials working games. Last nights game was worked by two experienced refs though so this comment applies more to overall than specific to last night.
Mike in Houston
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They're incompetent is what I think it is. I really don't have an issue with the Kreider call. I don't think Chris had any intention to hit Pettersson up high. I think his intent was to put his much bigger body between Elias and the puck and make a play to someone--when he swung his arm around his elbow caught Pettersson in the face and hit to the head causes some kind of injury almost always gets a major and a game. So there's consistency with that.
Lemieux however--the play is going towards the net and Roussel gets bumped and loses his balance--falls into Lemieux. Of the 4 officials who huddled over that--it's hard to believe but I guess possible that nobody actually saw what happened. If one or more of them did see it they sure got it wrong....and if none of them saw it why are they handing out a major and a game?
Wait, after all that BULL****, Vancouver didn't even pass us?
****in' A.
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I actually think Kreider swung his elbow recklessly and intending to hit the guy. Nothing too crazy or vicious. But he wanted to hold the guy up and went too high. I have no issue with that call in particular. But in general the refs are poor to the point that I question their integrity.
Edit. Maybe a better way to put it is: they're so poor the integrity question is beginning to creep into my mind.
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eco's bones
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I'm a fan of Kreider but he's not in the running for savviest hockey player we've ever had. There's a brute force aspect that comes with the way he plays. It wouldn't shock me if the NHL gave him a game or two--though I think that's less likely after Pettersson returned and finished the game. I think two games would be way too much though. The hit actually reminded me a bit of Mika's in that he tried to get his body between Pettersson and the puck.
Ghost of jas
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Looks like this western Canada trip is going to be much more beneficial than last year’s trip.
The Rangers were so bad last night. Twelve more performances like that please.
Vancouver is terrible. Markstrom is very good. The Rangers made them look like a competent team.
The Rangers had a 5 on 3 in the third period. Sam and Joe were saying this is a big moment in the game for the Rangers to make it a game. The Rangers didn’t get a shot. The Canucks didn’t move out of their box. The Rangers kept passing it around on the perimeter. I think it was Buchnevich who shot the puck wide and the puck went out of the zone.
Even Sam was like WTF is going on Joe. That power play was horrible. When you lose Sam, you have issues.
Will the NHL suspend Kreider? He spun around and elbowed Pettersson in the face/head. They are very sensitive to any type of head shot. Eichel and Voracek got 2 games recently. This league is crazy. Principal point of contact being the head.
Vancouver is terrible. Markstrom is very good. The Rangers made them look like a competent team.
The Rangers had a 5 on 3 in the third period. Sam and Joe were saying this is a big moment in the game for the Rangers to make it a game. The Rangers didn’t get a shot. The Canucks didn’t move out of their box. The Rangers kept passing it around on the perimeter. I think it was Buchnevich who shot the puck wide and the puck went out of the zone.
Even Sam was like WTF is going on Joe. That power play was horrible. When you lose Sam, you have issues.
Will the NHL suspend Kreider? He spun around and elbowed Pettersson in the face/head. They are very sensitive to any type of head shot. Eichel and Voracek got 2 games recently. This league is crazy. Principal point of contact being the head.
I've been watching sports (the 5 largest, includes soccer) for about 40 years. I stopped watching the NBA in the mid-90's because I felt the league was rigged, and that they were completely fine with it. And with the way the league allows "superteams", it does not change my view.
That said, the sheer number of missed, completely incorrect, and insane calls over the past 5 years has made me question the integrity of the officials and umpires in baseball. Used to be there was one or two completely egregious calls during the course of a SEASON, now it seems like it's every other game. You just don't "miss" something as much as these guys do. I have no doubt in my mind that the officials officiate the game with a bias; meaning they know who's supposed to win. That is especially evident in the NCAA Basketball Tournament. If you notice, the officials will allow certain "upsets" to happen. They'll also prevent others.
In football, especially college football, the officials use replay as a crutch. They no longer make a definitive call. They seem incapable of making a decision without replay being involved. And the NFL? With all the gambling on that league? No doubt the officials are on the take. You just don't "miss" things they way they "miss" things. That league has so much parity, sometimes the difference between a 10-6 season and an 8-8 season is a phantom holding and a phantom PI on late drives. The Giants, as bad as they were this past season, had they received competent officiating in their games, are in a wildcard hunt. They had THREE games outright stolen from them by officiating.
It's also highly suspect now, that there's this "movement" at all levels to protect the officials from any kind of criticism at all.
Sam and Joe were more livley than the Rangers. But losing two of you guys to game misconducts will do that to you. Last night was not a proud evening for the NHL.
Vinny DeAngelo
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Woke up and ADA had more points and the rangers didn't... Thats what were looking for!!
Larrybiv
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I would like to know who the clown is in the locker room that teases players for being "selfish" if they don't pass the puck.
They bust their asses retrieving pucks 5v5, so why cant they keep it simple on PP? It goes like this.
1 pass
2 pass
3 shoot no matter what. If someone is in your way, fire it around them.......and then get on your horse and get it. A tricky bounce off the boards, a deflection off a skate can create just as good an opportunity as that perfect tic tac toe that we rarely are able to do.
Shoot low to the pads and crash the net. We have NO wicked shots coming from blue line......so there has to be alternatives.
This is what we got Shatty for? Pionk gets his shots blocked 8 out of 10x, and one of them is sent to the corner so it isn't.
Honestly, the only players that are any kind of dangerous on PK is Zbad and believe it or not Buch. They seem to want to shoot, Buch more than Zbad......and even he got fed up and practically went end to end......saying eff this, I will do it myself.
Larrybiv
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What drives me batty is the circling in own zone, absolutely NO urgency.......waiting and waiting for linemates to proceed together to do nothing but lose the puck or dump it in. Why not dump it in immediately (eliminate the circling) and get the dang puck yourself and let the others enter zone behind you?
I know its a timing thing, but they consistently waste 20 secs. Then a failed dump in and before u know it a minute is gone.
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