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OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: They Killed Kenny!

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Peat said:
edit: And as such, I don't get why people are making decisions on him now. It'd be like deciding Watt is no longer an elite pass rusher based on the second half of last season when he was hampered by that upper body injury.
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I agree, but at the same point his performance today was an all-time bad one. I really struggle trying to think of a worse QB performance than what Pickett put up today from a Steelers QB.

Pickett's performance today was on par or worse than Rudolph's performance against the Bengals back in 2019, which got him benched and basically destroyed his career. It didn't have the turnovers simply because Pickett was playing ultra safe with the ball, but his throws were awful in the few throws he actually tried to make down the field.

Shaftception said:
Replacing Pickett next year through the draft is likely not the best for future contention unless they waste a bunch of picks to jump to the top 5 picks, but they have holes everywhere still so I'd argue that's not the best choice.

So unless a Cousins/Rodgers veteran type falls into their lap I'd just keep/Rudolph and let them tank command the team to a better pick next year, they likely won't be as lucky with one score games as they were this one.

The only reason to rush to try to replace Pickett is to try and salvage the last remaining prime years of Watt, put I'd argue they're already beyond that point, so to me there's no rush outside of preventing a potential mutiny in the lockeroom if they demand a better qb.
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The thing that got them into this mess was doing this in the first place. They've been making short-sighted and win-now moves despite not being a legitimate win-now team. They've invested so much in their top defensive guys that they're not willing to actually build a legitimate super bowl contender how it needs to be built.
 
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TNT87 said:


f***ing ridiculous. Nothing will ever change unless you clean house and we all know that's not going to happen. Tomlin and Canada are f***ing jokes.
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That's the ultimate tragedy of this team.

They could shift course and make all the right roster choices going forward, but it won't matter a damn because you know damn well whoever they hire to replace Canada next year won't be any kind of modern quality like other teams hire, and of course Tomlin will still be here still living in the 00's.
 
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Painful to watch.

This team does not deserve this defence, and this defence doesn’t deserve this offence.

Steelers need to wake up. Their offense is abysmal. They don’t have an offensive line that can protect a kid quarterback, and they have a head coach who’s wet dream is to win every game 7-3.

Playoffs mean nothing as they aren’t beating anyone with that offence and it just prolongs the lie that this is a contending team.

They aren’t, and they need significant changes on the offensive side of the ball

In the meantime, they are just wasting this excellent defence week in, week out.
 
LeafSteel said:
This team does not deserve this defence, and this defence doesn’t deserve this offence.
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Their defense isn't even good in the first place, they're just opportunistic with turnovers. They're 28th in yards against, they just get bailed out by splash plays.

The real tragedy here is that this team is 6-4 when the actual quality of their team suggests they should be more like 3-7. If this team was actually 3-7, maybe they'd make the changes they need to make to actually correct the problems on the team.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Their defense isn't even good in the first place, they're just opportunistic with turnovers. They're 28th in yards against, they just get bailed out by splash plays.

The real tragedy here is that this team is 6-4 when the actual quality of their team suggests they should be more like 3-7.
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C’mon now :laugh:

Saying their defense isn’t good is kind of crazy.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Their defense isn't even good in the first place, they're just opportunistic with turnovers. They're 28th in yards against, they just get bailed out by splash plays.

The real tragedy here is that this team is 6-4 when the actual quality of their team suggests they should be more like 3-7.
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Considering how much time the spend on the field each game because their offensive game plan is the shits, it’s hard to accurately judge them.

They do give the team a chance to win almost every game, and it’s the offense that fails to get it done.
 
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"Yinzers say" is almost always followed by the he most midwit takes. And midwit is being generous. Losers like Danny revel in thinking they won cheap points that way.
 
I mean, the Giants played an undrafted rookie at QB today, they have far worse receivers than what the Steelers have, he got sacked 10 times, and he still had a better day than Pickett has ever had in the NFL. Every damn excuse people make for Pickett exists and a trash UDFA who lives with his parents outplayed Pickett's best ever NFL game in 25 starts.

And yes, the win probability after Pickens bailed Pickett out with the catch down the Browns 40 had to be 80-90%. The ensuing play calling sequence alone would be reason enough to fire Canada. Not that there wasn't already enough.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
I agree, but at the same point his performance today was an all-time bad one. I really struggle trying to think of a worse QB performance than what Pickett put up today from a Steelers QB.

Pickett's performance today was on par or worse than Rudolph's performance against the Bengals back in 2019, which got him benched and basically destroyed his career. It didn't have the turnovers simply because Pickett was playing ultra safe with the ball, but his throws were awful in the few throws he actually tried to make down the field.
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The lesson there to me is don't play guys who are struggling physically and don't keep coaches who play guys who are struggling physically, not this is who Kenny Pickett is.

Honestly, I feel like I'm going a bit insane here.

Pickett left a game with an injury.

It's an injury with a 3 week recovery time at minimum, which playing football probably doesn't help. We are just at 3 weeks.

It's an injury that common sense and stats agree affects throwing.

So now Pickett's throwing like a completely different person to the guy who threw against the Rams and Ravens, do we

a) Go "wellp, looks like he is indeed injured, what is he doing out there"
b) Go "wow, Pickett's throwing looks awful and I have no idea what it is other than him"

Just a complete failure of logic to me.

I daresay you're right that Pickett probably lost a lot of faith in the fanbase, but for me, it's Tomlin who I'm staring at. If that isn't a situation to put Trubisky in, what is there short of Kenny Pickett losing both legs?
 
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Peat said:
The lesson there to me is don't play guys who are struggling physically and don't keep coaches who play guys who are struggling physically, not this is who Kenny Pickett is.

Honestly, I feel like I'm going a bit insane here.

Pickett left a game with an injury.

It's an injury with a 3 week recovery time at minimum, which playing football probably doesn't help. We are just at 3 weeks.

It's an injury that common sense and stats agree affects throwing.

So now Pickett's throwing like a completely different person to the guy who threw against the Rams and Ravens, do we

a) Go "wellp, looks like he is indeed injured, what is he doing out there"
b) Go "wow, Pickett's throwing looks awful and I have no idea what it is other than him"

Just a complete failure of logic to me.

I daresay you're right that Pickett probably lost a lot of faith in the fanbase, but for me, it's Tomlin who I'm staring at. If that isn't a situation to put Trubisky in, what is there short of Kenny Pickett losing both legs?
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Kenny isn't here good that he should be forced in there. That is either a misjudgment on Tomlin's part or the injury isn't actually severe. The latter is more likely.
 
ChaosAgent said:
Kenny isn't here good that he should be forced in there. That is either a misjudgment on Tomlin's part or the injury isn't actually severe. The latter is more likely.
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Why do you think it's less likely to be a midjudgment on Tomlin's part?

And if it isn't severe, what is the reason for him being a far less accurate thrower, who is throwing far more conservatively than he was prior to that Jags game?
 
ChaosAgent said:
Kenny isn't here good that he should be forced in there. That is either a misjudgment on Tomlin's part or the injury isn't actually severe. The latter is more likely.
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This is just an H2P talking point. He hasn't missed a practice or been listed on an injury report at all the last 2 weeks. Teams get fined heavily if they don't report injuries - the idea that they are hiding a significant injury is laughable.
 
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