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OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: They Killed Kenny!

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The Grim Reaper said:
I feel like there are some misunderstanding of football fundamentals in this thread. There is a play called by the OC, the QB looks to make that play, if it's not available, he looks elsewhere (plays have 2nd and third options usually). However, Pickett literally has less than two seconds to make a play, so he's forcing the ball to the primary option (not ideal), and doesn't have time to look at the 2nd and third options (extremely not ideal). When a QB does not have time, the OC needs to call plays to keep the defense honest, Canada is not doing that.
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Call what plays to keep the defense honest? Defenses can fly towards the line because the Steelers verticle passing game is not a threat and defenses don't respect their ability to burn them for gambling.
 
The Grim Reaper said:
I feel like there are some misunderstanding of football fundamentals in this thread. There is a play called by the OC, the QB looks to make that play, if it's not available, he looks elsewhere (plays have 2nd and third options usually). However, Pickett literally has less than two seconds to make a play, so he's forcing the ball to the primary option (not ideal), and doesn't have time to look at the 2nd and third options (extremely not ideal). When a QB does not have time, the OC needs to call plays to keep the defense honest, Canada is not doing that.
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And to expand on this, there are ways you can criticize Pickett for not doing what he can do even with these circumstances. He needs to be better at reading other options even when he's getting heavily pressured. Those are issues with him.

Pointing out bad play-calling by Canada or bad blocking by the OL doesn't mean Pickett is playing well and doesn't have things he needs to improve on.
 
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The Grim Reaper said:
I feel like there are some misunderstanding of football fundamentals in this thread. There is a play called by the OC, the QB looks to make that play, if it's not available, he looks elsewhere (plays have 2nd and third options usually). However, Pickett literally has less than two seconds to make a play, so he's forcing the ball to the primary option (not ideal), and doesn't have time to look at the 2nd and third options (extremely not ideal). When a QB does not have time, the OC needs to call plays to keep the defense honest, Canada is not doing that.
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You just don't understand. Mason Rudolph would change everything.
 
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Pickett had all the time he could ask for last week and did the exact same things. He stares at his primary and either that guy gets it or the checkdown does. Heck, last week he forced a throw to Warren in the flat when he was not open with DJ on the same damn side of the field instantly open for an easy TD. Pickett never even lifted his gaze to see DJ. He stared at Warren the entire time and forced a throw even though Warren was not open. I don't give a shit how bad Canada is. Guys are getting open on some of the plays and Pickett does not even look to them. But for some reason he is never the issue.
 
BackToTheBrierePatch said:
That pass play had no chance. He steps up and it’s a 6 yard sack instead of 11
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There was an open lane to step up to his right in front of the right edge rusher who rushed too far up field.

Stepping up in front of outside pressure is pocket awareness 101. Doing a pieroette into the pressure is not the right decision.
 
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The Grim Reaper said:
I feel like there are some misunderstanding of football fundamentals in this thread. There is a play called by the OC, the QB looks to make that play, if it's not available, he looks elsewhere (plays have 2nd and third options usually). However, Pickett literally has less than two seconds to make a play, so he's forcing the ball to the primary option (not ideal), and doesn't have time to look at the 2nd and third options (extremely not ideal). When a QB does not have time, the OC needs to call plays to keep the defense honest, Canada is not doing that.
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Yes, all of them suck.

However, the few times Pickett does get time he usually throws garbage balls. Pickett sucks. The line sucks. The play calling sucks. It all sucks. I don’t know why everyone feels the need to defend one aspect to the death.

Pickett will be a backup QB within a few years, Canada will never coach in the league again after this year, and most of the OL will also never be heard from again.
 
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NewAgeOutlaw said:
Call what plays to keep the defense honest? Defenses can fly towards the line because the Steelers verticle passing game is not a threat and defenses don't respect their ability to burn them for gambling.
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That's the issue here, they're too scared of turning the ball over so they're not going to call those riskier plays to keep the defense honest.

Frankly I'm just shocked the run game is working at all today with that.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
And to expand on this, there are ways you can criticize Pickett for not doing what he can do even with these circumstances. He needs to be better at reading other options even when he's getting heavily pressured. Those are issues with him.

Pointing out bad play-calling by Canada or bad blocking by the OL doesn't mean Pickett is playing well and doesn't have things he needs to improve on.
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And yet you never seem to actually criticize him. I said Canada sucks. I wanted him gone in the offseason. The thing is, I can see that the QB also sucks. He does absolutely nothing well. Seriously, what are his strengths? His 4th quarter comebacks are the only thing he has accomplished, and if you look at the league leaders in comebacks, they are usually bad QBs on bad teams because they get the most chances.
 
We’ve been hearing Garrett’s name a lot more than we have Watt’s so far today, no? Not to completely fault Watt. Garrett is surrounded by a better overall defense.
 
NewAgeOutlaw said:
Call what plays to keep the defense honest? Defenses can fly towards the line because the Steelers verticle passing game is not a threat and defenses don't respect their ability to burn them for gambling.
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Depends where the pressure is coming from. The play would depend on whether it's the tackles, edge, line backers, inside corners, etc.
 
TooManyHumans said:
And yet you never seem to actually criticize him. I said Canada sucks. I wanted him gone in the offseason. The thing is, I can see that the QB also sucks. He does absolutely nothing well. Seriously, what are his strengths? His 4th quarter comebacks are the only thing he has accomplished, and if you look at the league leaders in comebacks, they are usually bad QBs on bad teams because they get the most chances.
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Empoleon8771 said:
I just wish the Steelers would have a game where the debates didn't just turn into the same Pickett nonsense every week.

The Browns are having a free blitzer on basically every play, the Steelers OL is getting downright abused in this game. But at some point, Pickett just needs to make a play.

Please just fire Matt Canada. For the love of god, just get rid of him.
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Literally a few pages ago.

The reality is that a lot of the people criticizing Pickett in here are picking nonsensical things to criticize him for. You pointing at that throw to Warren as an example of Pickett "missing open receivers" is nonsensical and shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the sport.

There are clearly things to criticize Pickett for. Him backing up into a sack on a recent drive is an example of that. Him missing that throw to DJ when he was open was an example of that. Him not being able to go quicker over his options was an example of that. A play being countered because of a moronic play design by Canada isn't one of those.

People wouldn't be "defending" Pickett in here if the people criticizing Pickett weren't just spewing nonsense to criticize him over. That doesn't mean any criticism of him is nonsense, but there is plenty of nonsense being thrown at him that just isn't reasonable whatsoever.
 
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Welp, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Cleveland is scoring on this drive. They’re in trouble. Might get shut out, anyway.
 
I do not understand why Porter was sat two yards in front of that slant run just waiting for him to catch it so he could make the line. Was he sitting off in fear that Cooper would keep going?
 
Honestly even though I don't think Pickett is to blame for their awful performance so far today, I'd still look at going to Trubisky in the 2nd half. The reality is that this team is going to need to take some gambles to put together any sort of offensive drives and I think Pickett has been beaten into playing too conservatively at this point.

34 passing yards in a half is downright unacceptable, regardless of circumstances around it. They'll probably run the risk of turning the ball over with Trubisky's aggressive play, but you sure as hell know they're not going to win this game by playing it safe.
 
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