OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Super Bowl? Thats like a giant pot of chips or popcorn right?

[Night Shift]

I like it better when he calls Tomlin out for being a crap coach.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Because they could get him cheap for a few seasons. Gage got 3/30 in tampa and has never reached a 1000 yards Boyd hasn’t seen 1000 since his extension MVS doesn’t have a 1000 yard season and got 3/30 from KC. Gallup got 11 million aav and doesn’t have 1000 yards in Dallas

He had contract offers from other teams before he came back to play with ben. but knew he wasn’t getting paid unless he balled out with Maholmes

It’s pretty obvious he came back to the Steelers because no one was offering him a good long term deal - hence crawling back to the Steelers to play in an offense he knew well to try and get his pay day again.

Them offering him a long term deal doesn’t pass the sniff test - especially when his mom ranted how the Steelers didn’t want him.

It worked out for him though, riding AR and PM coattails.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

It’s pretty obvious he came back to the Steelers because no one was offering him a good long term deal - hence crawling back to the Steelers to play in an offense he knew well to try and get his pay day again.

Them offering him a long term deal doesn’t pass the sniff test - especially when his mom ranted how the Steelers didn’t want him.

It worked out for him though, riding AR and PM coattails.

Chiefs WR JuJu Smith-Schuster says Steelers offered him a contract

Smith-Schuster had the chance to return to the Steelers but didn’t.

steelerswire.usatoday.com

JuJu Smith-Schuster Confirms Offer from Steelers, Preferred Chiefs Deal

The Steelers did make an offer to Juju Smith-Schuster, but he ultimately preferred the deal offered to him by the Kansas City Chiefs, according to Smith-Schuster himself in a Instagram Live video with NFL Network’s Taylor Bisciotti. “Going with the Steelers and what they offered me, it wasn’t...

steelersnow.com

They wanted to do 3-30 I guess he wanted to ball out with KC and get paid

 

[Peat]

Brugler updated his top 100. Few kinda interesting notes

- He has Skoronski as 4th best prospect. 4th. Wait and see but the idea that evaluators panic about his arms gets more and more distant. Johnson is 9th, Broderick Jones is 12th, and getting one of these 3 guys seems more unlikely as they all seem to be rising.

- Christian Gonzalez at 5th. Dang. CBs otherwise rated Porter, Witherspoon, Branch (if you wanna count him), Banks, Ringo, Forbes and Cam Smith at 51. Smith at 51 seems like a typo. I guess it probably isn't but damn is that class deep.

- 4 TEs in his top 31.

- Drew Sanders at 23, Simpson at 36. Next LB is To'oTo'o at 71.

- Has Bresee at 17. Interesting as in some places he's dropping like a stone. Calijah Kancey is at 35. Mazi Smith, Gervon Dexter, Keanuu Benton, Siaki Ika, and Tuipulutou all top 60.

- Torrence his only IOL in the top 30, Mauch, Avila, Tippman, Schmitz all top 50.


True talent and not draft placement, but assuming you can't get an OT at 17, that feels like a choice between CB, Bresee, or LB. I personally dunno that Torrence sounds good enough to take at 17, but maybe if you move down. Can probably move down and pick up LB and CB if you're feeling ballsy too.

32, I dunno if top two LBs will be there given how thin the draft is, but CB is open (feels like that'll be true most of the draft), and DL and IOL. RT too if you like Dawand Jones.

I think I'd legit cream myself if Cam Smith was there at 49. Otherwise, probably whichever line you haven't already hit.

That's assuming they're not looking at weapons.

 

[SomeDude]

JJSS is a f***ing clown.

Didn’t he fumble away the Steelers season 2 years in a row? He’s the last person that should be gloating over something line that.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

In your previous post, you literally said "PH is the great multiplier". So yes, in KC WR's are pretty much plug and play because Mahommes is an absolute outlier

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Chiefs WR JuJu Smith-Schuster says Steelers offered him a contract

Smith-Schuster had the chance to return to the Steelers but didn’t.

steelerswire.usatoday.com

JuJu Smith-Schuster Confirms Offer from Steelers, Preferred Chiefs Deal

The Steelers did make an offer to Juju Smith-Schuster, but he ultimately preferred the deal offered to him by the Kansas City Chiefs, according to Smith-Schuster himself in a Instagram Live video with NFL Network’s Taylor Bisciotti. “Going with the Steelers and what they offered me, it wasn’t...

steelersnow.com

They wanted to do 3-30 I guess he wanted to ball out with KC and get paid

I don’t see any legit source claiming the Steelers offered him 3-30.

We know his mom flipped out and said they didn’t want him, and JJSS said they weren’t offering what he was looking for (that’s code for “they didn’t want me”).

Then he took a lowball offer to play for the Chiefs, which tells me he wasn’t getting serious enough long term offers from anyone.

So he needed to ride it out with the best QB in the league on a one year deal to try and up his value (again).

He got his SB so it worked out for him, but he keeps showing us who he is - a dbag. Kicking a guy when he’s down publicly is about as low class as it gets.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I don’t see any legit source claiming the Steelers offered him 3-30.

We know his mom flipped out and said they didn’t want him, and JJSS said they weren’t offering what he was looking for (that’s code for “they didn’t want me”).

Then he took a lowball offer to play for the Chiefs, which tells me he wasn’t getting serious enough long term offers from anyone.

So he needed to ride it out with the best QB in the league on a one year deal to try and up his value (again).

He got his SB so it worked out for him, but he keeps showing us who he is - a dbag. Kicking a guy when he’s down publicly is about as low class as it gets.

The 3-30 is pure speculation by me. Based solely off of Gaga and Gallup extension he just said it wasn’t enough whatever the offer was from Pittsburgh. Even though he won a Super Bowl i don’t see him getting 3-30 from kc. He has been begging for an extension most of the season

In your previous post, you literally said "PH is the great multiplier". So yes, in KC WR's are pretty much plug and play because Mahommes is an absolute outlier

Yeah Kelce was the wr in in kc. He threw for 41 tds in the regular season his leading wr had 4. Juju was 2nd on the team with targets and finished with 3 tds

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Brugler updated his top 100. Few kinda interesting notes

- He has Skoronski as 4th best prospect. 4th. Wait and see but the idea that evaluators panic about his arms gets more and more distant. Johnson is 9th, Broderick Jones is 12th, and getting one of these 3 guys seems more unlikely as they all seem to be rising.

- Christian Gonzalez at 5th. Dang. CBs otherwise rated Porter, Witherspoon, Branch (if you wanna count him), Banks, Ringo, Forbes and Cam Smith at 51. Smith at 51 seems like a typo. I guess it probably isn't but damn is that class deep.

- 4 TEs in his top 31.

- Drew Sanders at 23, Simpson at 36. Next LB is To'oTo'o at 71.

- Has Bresee at 17. Interesting as in some places he's dropping like a stone. Calijah Kancey is at 35. Mazi Smith, Gervon Dexter, Keanuu Benton, Siaki Ika, and Tuipulutou all top 60.

- Torrence his only IOL in the top 30, Mauch, Avila, Tippman, Schmitz all top 50.


True talent and not draft placement, but assuming you can't get an OT at 17, that feels like a choice between CB, Bresee, or LB. I personally dunno that Torrence sounds good enough to take at 17, but maybe if you move down. Can probably move down and pick up LB and CB if you're feeling ballsy too.

32, I dunno if top two LBs will be there given how thin the draft is, but CB is open (feels like that'll be true most of the draft), and DL and IOL. RT too if you like Dawand Jones.

I think I'd legit cream myself if Cam Smith was there at 49. Otherwise, probably whichever line you haven't already hit.

That's assuming they're not looking at weapons.

Steelers have been pretty transparent lately about the position they value the most with their first rounder, and Tomlin wasn’t shy about who he was looking at during Senior Bowl week (OL).

They will likely try to move up to get a LT, but may not find any takers like last draft when they tried to jump up for KP.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Steelers have been pretty transparent lately about the position they value the most with their first rounder, and Tomlin wasn’t shy about who he was looking at during Senior Bowl week (OL).

They will likely try to move up to get a LT, but may not find any takers like last draft when they tried to jump up for KP.

He’s been begging for a long term deal for 3 seasons in a row now, which shows you what the Steelers and the rest of the league think about his value.

Maybe the ring effect will finally help him get that deal, GMs can sometimes be blinded by the bling.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I might take Sanders 17 if the tackles are all off the board, and no Gonzales. Obviously pick 32 is more optimal, but I legit think this dude could be Parsons.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Steelers have been pretty transparent lately about the position they value the most with their first rounder, and Tomlin wasn’t shy about who he was looking at during Senior Bowl week (OL).

They will likely try to move up to get a LT, but may not find any takers like last draft when they tried to jump up for KP.

I don’t think they go lt at 17 I think its defense Cb or DL the bulk of the senior line men are day 2 pick’s definitely will get depth and completion but if dillard is brought in then OT is probably a day 3 pick the iol is deep this class

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I don’t think they go lt at 17 I think its defense Cb or DL the bulk of the senior line men are day 2 pick’s definitely will get depth and completion but if dillard is brought in then OT is probably a day 3 pick the iol is deep this class

They won’t go LT at 17 because the big three won’t last that long - Raiders, Titans, Jets and NE will snatch them up easy… that’s why I keep hoping for a trade up, but it takes two to dance.

If the big three LT are off the board and Witherspoon is gone as well, I’m open to any position really… DL, ILB, WR… maybe Gonzalez at corner.

Or trade back and grab Harrison or OC Torrence in the late first. I’d be stoked if they grabbed both with their trade back first and pick 32.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

They won’t go LT at 17 because the big three won’t last that long - Raiders, Titans, Jets and NE will snatch them up easy… that’s why I keep hoping for a trade up, but it takes two to dance.

If the big three LT are off the board and Witherspoon is gone as well, I’m open to any position really… DL, ILB, WR… maybe Gonzalez at corner.

Or trade back and grab Harrison or OC Torrence in the late first. I’d be stoked if they grabbed both with their trade back first and pick 32.

Depending on Carr/Rodgers shakes out any of those teams except NE might go QB if one they like is available. Lets hope.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Depending on Carr/Rodgers shakes out any of those teams except NE might go QB if one they like is available. Lets hope.

Titans got their guy for the future with Willis (I disagree but whatever).

Raiders I’m hoping they take a QB like Richardson as I think the big three will be gone by then via trade ups.

Jets who knows - they have been looking for a QB since Joe Namath left.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Titans got their guy for the future with Willis (I disagree but whatever).

Raiders I’m hoping they take a QB like Richardson as I think the big three will be gone by then via trade ups.

Jets who knows - they have been looking for a QB since Joe Namath left.

I can see the Titans doubling down, especially with how bad Willis looked and they dont have alot invested in him.

Depending on whos available of course

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I can see the Titans doubling down, especially with how bad Willis looked and they dont have alot invested in him.

Depending on whos available of course

I wouldn’t expect them to go QB, but a few unexpected picks must happen for the big three LT to slip down.

LT is the most valued position after QB, so I’d be lying if I wrote I believed one of these guys would slip.

However, I never thought in a million years KP would get to 20 either, so there is always hope.

I thought he was too good of a prospect and there were way too many QB needy teams ahead of the Steelers… so who knows.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Yeah, I don't see why the Titans would be tied to Willis. He was a 3rd round pick. It would be like saying the Steelers were tied to Rudolph.

I think Willis will be released at the end of training camp with teams keeping two QBs on the roster. They couldn't trust him at the end of the season and brought in Dobbs off the street and played him after being there for like 4-5 days.

 

[xlm34]

Brugler updated his top 100. Few kinda interesting notes

- He has Skoronski as 4th best prospect. 4th. Wait and see but the idea that evaluators panic about his arms gets more and more distant. Johnson is 9th, Broderick Jones is 12th, and getting one of these 3 guys seems more unlikely as they all seem to be rising.

- Christian Gonzalez at 5th. Dang. CBs otherwise rated Porter, Witherspoon, Branch (if you wanna count him), Banks, Ringo, Forbes and Cam Smith at 51. Smith at 51 seems like a typo. I guess it probably isn't but damn is that class deep.

- 4 TEs in his top 31.

- Drew Sanders at 23, Simpson at 36. Next LB is To'oTo'o at 71.

- Has Bresee at 17. Interesting as in some places he's dropping like a stone. Calijah Kancey is at 35. Mazi Smith, Gervon Dexter, Keanuu Benton, Siaki Ika, and Tuipulutou all top 60.

- Torrence his only IOL in the top 30, Mauch, Avila, Tippman, Schmitz all top 50.


True talent and not draft placement, but assuming you can't get an OT at 17, that feels like a choice between CB, Bresee, or LB. I personally dunno that Torrence sounds good enough to take at 17, but maybe if you move down. Can probably move down and pick up LB and CB if you're feeling ballsy too.

32, I dunno if top two LBs will be there given how thin the draft is, but CB is open (feels like that'll be true most of the draft), and DL and IOL. RT too if you like Dawand Jones.

I think I'd legit cream myself if Cam Smith was there at 49. Otherwise, probably whichever line you haven't already hit.

That's assuming they're not looking at weapons.

There’s always a guy that unexpectedly falls, but right now I’m assuming the three tackles, Witherspoon, and Gonzalez are going to be off the board when the Steelers pick.

And I’m kind of lukewarm on the rest of the options at 17 as of now. Bresee and Porter are interesting because of their physical traits but both seem to have some legit red flags in their game. Some of the ILBs seem ok but I’m kind of expecting them to go the FA route there. Then there’s always Addison which I wouldn’t hate.

A trade down would probably be my preference.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

There’s always a guy that unexpectedly falls, but right now I’m assuming the three tackles, Witherspoon, and Gonzalez are going to be off the board when the Steelers pick.

And I’m kind of lukewarm on the rest of the options at 17 as of now. Bresee and Porter are interesting because of their physical traits but both seem to have some legit red flags in their game. Some of the ILBs seem ok but I’m kind of expecting them to go the FA route there. Then there’s always Addison which I wouldn’t hate.

A trade down would probably be my preference.

That is where I am at: if a LT isn't there, then trade down.

I'm still predicting Porter's kid ends up on this roster.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

There’s always a guy that unexpectedly falls, but right now I’m assuming the three tackles, Witherspoon, and Gonzalez are going to be off the board when the Steelers pick.

And I’m kind of lukewarm on the rest of the options at 17 as of now. Bresee and Porter are interesting because of their physical traits but both seem to have some legit red flags in their game. Some of the ILBs seem ok but I’m kind of expecting them to go the FA route there. Then there’s always Addison which I wouldn’t hate.

A trade down would probably be my preference.

I think witherspoon will be there and porter might not.

Porters upside is high and he can fit any scheme. Plus NFL bloodlines on top of that. Someone will jump at him.

 

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[bigdaddyk88]

Yeah, I don't see why the Titans would be tied to Willis. He was a 3rd round pick. It would be like saying the Steelers were tied to Rudolph.

I think Willis will be released at the end of training camp with teams keeping two QBs on the roster. They couldn't trust him at the end of the season and brought in Dobbs off the street and played him after being there for like 4-5 days.

He will not be released he was always a project who was going to need a couple of redshirt years. They will probably go jimmy g or some vet if they move on from Tanahill it’s still a winnable division for Tennessee

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Depending on Carr/Rodgers shakes out any of those teams except NE might go QB if one they like is available. Lets hope.

Reports say jets are intrested in Tanahill
I think carr is Carolina bound
Rodgers is a raider
Jets do jimmy g or tanahill

 

[Peat]

Steelers have been pretty transparent lately about the position they value the most with their first rounder, and Tomlin wasn’t shy about who he was looking at during Senior Bowl week (OL).

They will likely try to move up to get a LT, but may not find any takers like last draft when they tried to jump up for KP.

Don't think any of the major OTs were at the Senior Bowl, were they?

My gut feeling is they had their DB coach at the bowl working directly with the CBs, which is also a big tell, and that the off-season mill is pointing really loud at replacing Dotson.

There’s always a guy that unexpectedly falls, but right now I’m assuming the three tackles, Witherspoon, and Gonzalez are going to be off the board when the Steelers pick.

And I’m kind of lukewarm on the rest of the options at 17 as of now. Bresee and Porter are interesting because of their physical traits but both seem to have some legit red flags in their game. Some of the ILBs seem ok but I’m kind of expecting them to go the FA route there. Then there’s always Addison which I wouldn’t hate.

A trade down would probably be my preference.

Where I'm at (except high on Cam Smith) too.

Bresee is the one I struggle most with as he's a clear top 10 physical traits player who had a ton of stuff holding him back... I just don't know how to rate that.