OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Super Bowl? Thats like a giant pot of chips or popcorn right?

[Buddy Bizarre]

No holding back for Steelers HC Mike Tomlin on Kevin Dotson: 'He's done nothing to earn first-team reps'

Mike Tomlin said Kevin Dotson has done nothing to earn first-team reps.

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This was a five alarm fire they fixed by signing 2 starters in 2 years and a guy who Andy says is a starter because they don’t like what Dotson put on tape.
All the top LT this draft class questions yes they will bring in competition they only have 3 OT on the roster but it wasn’t as bad as Dotson

'I Have To Listen Harder': Kevin Dotson Explains Sack That Led To Kenny Pickett's Injury

In a loud, fast-paced environment like on the field during an NFL game in a heated rivalry, it can be hard to hear and process quickly what your ears may or may not be hearing, like a snap count or a call within the offense. For third-year Pittsburgh Steelers left guard Kevin Dotson, that’s what […]

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I mean Bea Arthur probably would put up more of a fight at Guard than K Green

And you keep saying "Dotson gave KP a concussion". Well it happened to be 1 hit out of many that KP endured last year so that's a bit disingenous. The Oline in general wasn't great at pass pro

That's like saying "this particular raindrop caused Katrina". Yea that particular raindrop didn't help, but you're ignoring the billions of drops that came beforehand.

 

[Andy99]

I feel like all three LT prospects could be potential Pro Bowler types that can lock that position down for 7-8 years.

Not franchise guys, but they are impossible to find anyway.

Is upgrading on Moore and potentially keep KP from getting brained again worth say, the 17th 49th pick?

For me, hell ya.

If KP develops like I think, they will never be this close to drafting a blue chip LT.

If they don’t get one now, it could be a revolving door for years and ya I know whomever they get could bust, but my point still stands.

I dunno…none of them look like the next Tony Boselli to me when I read their draft reports but I’m certainly no expert…just because they’re the best in the class, doesn’t mean they should jump up…I relish the Steelers have 4 picks in the top 80…we have so many needs

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I dunno…none of them look like the next Tony Boselli to me when I read their draft reports but I’m certainly no expert…just because they’re the best in the class, doesn’t mean they should jump up…I relish the Steelers have 4 picks in the top 80…we have so many needs

Boselli was a generational guy, so if you are expecting to find him, good luck.
I’m just hoping for an above avg LT because if KP keeps getting concussions, his career will be over before it starts.

That to me is worth sacrificing a mid tier second rounder.

I get your take though.

I’m just old school and believe you always jump at the chance to fill the second most important position on your football team.

 

[Andy99]

Boselli was a generational guy, so if you are expecting to find him, good luck.
I’m just hoping for an above avg LT because if KP keeps getting concussions, his career will be over before it starts.

That to me is worth sacrificing a mid tier second rounder.

I get your take though.

I’m just old school and believe you always jump at the chance to fill the second most important position on your football team.

I mean, good players can be had from all rounds of the draft and some special players have been picked there too (um, Tom a Brady)…I just doubt the Steelers ability to find them, therefore I question moving up like they did with Bush…more picks gives you a better chance to land someone…NFL draft is not as bad odds wise as the NHL where the odds of finding a special player drop precipitously after round one..hopefully they find that special player if they move up…but I dont think they’re a LT away from winning the Lombardi…also, asking a legit question here because I don’t remember, but was Moore the sole reason for both concussions Pickett suffered last season?

 

[Peat]

also, asking a legit question here because I don’t remember, but was Moore the sole reason for both concussions Pickett suffered last season?

Dotson on both

Kevin Dotson Says He Apologized To Kenny Pickett For Hit That Left Him Concussed

Have you ever had somebody threaten to kill you after having a bad day at the office? Well, then you might not be a professional football player in the NFL, because apparently that’s a thing (not that anybody who’s been around the block a time or two should be surprised. Third-year guard Kevin...

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'I Have To Listen Harder': Kevin Dotson Explains Sack That Led To Kenny Pickett's Injury

In a loud, fast-paced environment like on the field during an NFL game in a heated rivalry, it can be hard to hear and process quickly what your ears may or may not be hearing, like a snap count or a call within the offense. For third-year Pittsburgh Steelers left guard Kevin Dotson, that’s what […]

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[Andy99]

Dotson on both

Kevin Dotson Says He Apologized To Kenny Pickett For Hit That Left Him Concussed

Have you ever had somebody threaten to kill you after having a bad day at the office? Well, then you might not be a professional football player in the NFL, because apparently that’s a thing (not that anybody who’s been around the block a time or two should be surprised. Third-year guard Kevin...

steelersdepot.com

'I Have To Listen Harder': Kevin Dotson Explains Sack That Led To Kenny Pickett's Injury

In a loud, fast-paced environment like on the field during an NFL game in a heated rivalry, it can be hard to hear and process quickly what your ears may or may not be hearing, like a snap count or a call within the offense. For third-year Pittsburgh Steelers left guard Kevin Dotson, that’s what […]

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Yeah that’s what I suspected…not that I think we couldnt use an upgrade on Moore…

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I mean, good players can be had from all rounds of the draft and some special players have been picked there too (um, Tom a Brady)…I just doubt the Steelers ability to find them, therefore I question moving up like they did with Bush…more picks gives you a better chance to land someone…NFL draft is not as bad odds wise as the NHL where the odds of finding a special player drop precipitously after round one..hopefully they find that special player if they move up…but I dont think they’re a LT away from winning the Lombardi…also, asking a legit question here because I don’t remember, but was Moore the sole reason for both concussions Pickett suffered last season?

I could make a Tomlin joke here but I’ll refrain I suppose.

It’s not really about if they are ready to compete for a SB, but protecting what looks to be their best asset right now - KP.

They tried the “let’s find a pro bowl tackle in the mid rounds approach” for about the last dozen years and it has had mixed results.

They haven’t drafted a pro bowl LT since Smith and that was Roth’s rookie year.

AV was the only other LT to make it to the Pro Bowl since Smith and he was a lucky waiver wire grab, not a draft pick.

Just saying I’ll take my chances on the bluechip guys when it comes to this position.

 

[Peat]

Yeah that’s what I suspected…not that I think we couldnt use an upgrade on Moore…

I think pretty much everyone here thinks we could use an upgrade. It's just how urgent it is, and how much the team is willing to spend.

Just reading the tea leaves on what they think of those three OTs...

They sent Meyer to Skoronski's pro day, but neither Khan nor Tomlin. That's generally a guy the team doesn't draft, but maybe they all went to Clemson instead because they don't expect Skoronski to be there but would jump if he was.

They sent Tomlin and Khan to Jones' pro day, but not Meyer. Teryl Austin and Danny Smith were there, but nobody from offence. Meyer wasn't anywhere else that day.

They sent Tomlin, Khan, and Meyer to Johnson's pro day, then went to dinner with him. Dawand Jones was also there too (and C Luke Wypler) so obviously huge OL cache beyond Paris Johnson, but that's the one where I think they're mega interested. I think they're interested in Dawand Jones too - wouldn't surprise me if they picked both. Notice too how Paris Johnson and Dawand Jones are about the biggest, longest OTs going in this draft.


You want to consider more developmental guys, Meyer went to Darnell Wright's and Jerome Carvin's pro day rather than Anton Harrison. They're bringing in Cody Mauch for a visit, but his athletic profile reads Guard. I am slightly surprised at just how interested in G they still are after FA. Blake Freeland, Jaelyn Duncan and Bergeron just got area scout visits - I'd expect visits if they were serious parts of the possible plan.

Bringing in Dawand Jones or Darnell Wright and having Chuks compete with Dan Moore seems quite likely too.

 

[TimmyD]

My point is they are fine with Moore and Chuks they weren’t fine with Dotson. They are more than happy with them both being the starting OT next year and if one of the 3 LT doesn’t fall to 17 they will be ok. They definitely want competition and new blood but aren’t going to trade up for a Lt


Tomlin isn’t trading DJ and isn’t setting up KP to fail with only 1 known but unproven wr in GP
Why wouldn’t the Texans just draft a wr at 12


Addison is slower than juju they aren’t taking him before round 3

Lol. Addison may not even make it to 17

 

[OnMyOwn]

I’ve seen Broderick Jones mocked to us a couple times so I dug into him a bit. I’d be ok with that pick. Seems good at pass pro.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Lol. Addison may not even make it to 17

Who ever takes him in round 1 is reaching. He is a slot only wr with drop issues whose not fast theres tons of wr in this class that fit that description.

 

[JTG]

Saw an article saying we should package DJ and a 2nd rounder for #12. I want to believe that's even close to a possibility or at least have the optimism of that beat writer.

I mean Houston could use a receiver and they have the cap room to take on DJ’s money. You may be able to do DJ+49+120 for 12th overall

I'd try to spend a pick next year if we are trading DJ. I'd without hesitation utilize him to move back into the first. Honestly, I think this is a great draft to bet on. Unreal talent at many positions of need.

Who ever takes him in round 1 is reaching. He is a slot only wr with drop issues whose not fast theres tons of wr in this class that fit that description.

I agree. He very well could be a phenomenal NFL receiver, but there are a lot of reasons why he may not be, and to me that's too much risk for a 1st round pick.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I'd try to spend a pick next year if we are trading DJ. I'd without hesitation utilize him to move back into the first. Honestly, I think this is a great draft to bet on. Unreal talent at many positions of need.


I agree. He very well could be a phenomenal NFL receiver, but there are a lot of reasons why he may not be, and to me that's too much risk for a 1st round pick.

If Addison slips to 49 that’s almost a must take situation. Can’t see it though even with his meh combine.

I think maybe Flowers goes before him, but that likely puts Addison in the late first, early second I’d imagine.

 

[JTG]

If Addison slips to 49 that’s almost a must take situation. Can’t see it though even with his meh combine.

I think maybe Flowers goes before him, but that likely puts Addison in the late first, early second I’d imagine.

This WR class is sort of one dimensional but they do that dimension really well. I could see Flowers, Addison, and Norris all putting up huge numbers as rookies

 

[bigdaddyk88]

This WR class is sort of one dimensional but they do that dimension really well. I could see Flowers, Addison, and Norris all putting up huge numbers as rookies

I am on the mimms train bryce ford wheaton A.t perry as round 3 target

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

This WR class is sort of one dimensional but they do that dimension really well. I could see Flowers, Addison, and Norris all putting up huge numbers as rookies

Ya it’s a weird class, but last year was pretty wild so maybe that’s just clouding my judgement.

Last year WRs went b2b2b from 10-12 and 4 in the top 12. All in all there were 6 guys taken in the top 18.

I’m not sure if we will even see the first WR off the board by 18 in this draft.

Steelers definitely need to add a guy, but I don’t have any particular one in mind.

I do think Addison and KP would be an instant hit due to their college production together, but I can’t see him lasting to 47 and their first two picks should focus on the trenches/corner IMHO.

 

[TimmyD]

If Addison slips to 49 that’s almost a must take situation. Can’t see it though even with his meh combine.

I think maybe Flowers goes before him, but that likely puts Addison in the late first, early second I’d imagine.

Flowers, Addison, Smith-Njigba, and Johnston are all going to be first round picks. Hyatt might even go in the first as well

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Flowers, Addison, Smith-Njigba, and Johnston are all going to be first round picks. Hyatt might even go in the first as well

Very likely, if not he will be gone by early round 2.

 

[JTG]

qs

I am on the mimms train bryce ford wheaton A.t perry as round 3 target

Huge Ford-Wheaton fan. At Perry would theoretically be the best compliment to what we have now

 

[Jaded-Fan]

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

At receiver I would hope that AT Perry is on the board for the third rounder. One player isn’t probably a good plan so if he’s gone they should have other receivers they like did that spot too.

I would still try to go some combo of tackle/corner/d-line with the first three. Of course, if someone falls and/or the guys you like at key positions are gone, you do what you do.

The other interesting thing is I’d they drop down anywhere to pick up some late picks - they have no pick between round 4 and 7.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I couldn’t find any highlights of this dude on YT, but I came across this while looking:

 

[Peat]

Well now I feel like an awful human for laughing so much, thanks Jiggy.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Well now I feel like an awful human for laughing so much, thanks Jiggy.

We can hang out in hell or the equivalent.

 

[JTG]

I have been traveling through Europe for the last 7 days and it's incredible how many people like the Steelers.