OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Sneaking up onto training camp

[Peat]

Yeah I'm not disagreeing with it being a valuable stat. Like the data says you definitely want guys to end up in that top right quadrant. Caleb Williams hovering around 20% I think you could characterize as a yellow flag, Daniels 24.5% would be a red flag. Shedeur Sanders is probably going to be another guy well over 20% to get picked in the 1st round if not the top 10.

The only point I was trying to make is that is that it's just a piece of the evaluation and that there are some successful QB's that aren't under the 20% threshold. I'm okay with ignoring one red flag, but when you see like 3 more in other areas then I begin to question the profile.

Right now, I can't think of a more reliable red flag out of stats that still keep a guy in first round contention and as such, it's enough for me on its own unless there's something special on the other side.

It'll be interesting to see how Daniels, Sanders, and Quinn Ewers all go. It's possible the history to date is a small sample size and they're about to bust the narrative. Conversely, if they all fail, got to think it's going to become a no go area in the NFL pretty soon.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Would you call him a dump-ster?

yes

 

[Pens1566]

Shedeur Sanders film would give you an aneurysm

Some team is really gonna regret drafting him.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Some team is really gonna regret drafting him.

I certainly think he's a flawed player, but with the right coach he may be fixable.
My issue with drafting him would be more his father than anything else. You thought Eric Lindros' dad was meddling...wait until you get a load of Deion with is kid in the NFL.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I certainly think he's a flawed player, but with the right coach he may be fixable.
My issue with drafting him would be more his father than anything else. You thought Eric Lindros' dad was meddling...wait until you get a load of Deion with is kid in the NFL.

I'm fully prepared for Deion to contend that he should be hired as the coach for whatever team drafts his kid. The Raiders are supposedly big on the kid, so that would make a ton of sense for them to go full Deion.

I could see Carolina and their insane owner going full Deion as well if Bryce Young sucks again.

 

[Night Shift]

I certainly think he's a flawed player, but with the right coach he may be fixable.
My issue with drafting him would be more his father than anything else. You thought Eric Lindros' dad was meddling...wait until you get a load of Deion with is kid in the NFL.

I remember they interviewed Lindros Mom in the late 90s, she was a crying mess...ooff

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I'm fully prepared for Deion to contend that he should be hired as the coach for whatever team drafts his kid. The Raiders are supposedly big on the kid, so that would make a ton of sense for them to go full Deion.

I could see Carolina and their insane owner going full Deion as well if Bryce Young sucks again.

He is going to be a cowboy they aren’t paying Dak. They will trade up for him and his dad will coach the cowboys

 

[MrBrightside]

He is going to be a cowboy they aren’t paying Dak. They will trade up for him and his dad will coach the cowboys

Unless Dallas completely disappoints this year they'd have to move up 10-20 slots in the 1st round. To do that would be nearly unprecedented.

 

[JTG]

There is too much that needs to be done with Shadeur to make him into an NFL QB with the way he is now. I think a team is really hurting themselves drafting him in the first because that's a first round pick you won't see a return for, if done correctly, for 3 years. He needs the Jordan Love treatment. Green Bay would actually be a great place for him.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Unless Dallas completely disappoints this year they'd have to move up 10-20 slots in the 1st round. To do that would be nearly unprecedented.

Buffalo did that to get Allen. We went up 10 spots for Bush and Troy. I don’t think Sanders is going to be the 1st Qb drafted

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

You can't say this stuff and not get repercussions. Even if some of this is absolutely true

Commanders suspend VP of content Rael Enteen

The Commanders announced on Wednesday that they have suspended vice president of content Rael Enteen after a video of him discussing the team's players and fans in derogatory ways was released.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Peat]

Man, that's shitty. There's zero public interest reasons to be filming a guy venting like that and posting it.

Also very stupid on his part.

 

[WickedWrister]

I'm fully prepared for Deion to contend that he should be hired as the coach for whatever team drafts his kid. The Raiders are supposedly big on the kid, so that would make a ton of sense for them to go full Deion.

I could see Carolina and their insane owner going full Deion as well if Bryce Young sucks again.

Yeah IDK if an owner hires Deion to be the head coach. From what I've seen Deion is actually a terrible coach lol, but an incredible recruiter/motivator. I think he has more leverage at Colorado when he's bringing a starting QB and an all American WR/CB with him. Reminds me a bit of the Lavar Ball situation.

 

[Peat]

Yeah IDK if an owner hires Deion to be the head coach. From what I've seen Deion is actually a terrible coach lol, but an incredible recruiter/motivator. I think he has more leverage at Colorado when he's bringing a starting QB and an all American WR/CB with him. Reminds me a bit of the Lavar Ball situation.

Tbf, if you're looking for an owner to do things you doubted an NFL owner would actually do, the Raiders are a good shout.

 

[WickedWrister]

 

[JTG]

This is already setting up to be a disaster.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Yeah IDK if an owner hires Deion to be the head coach. From what I've seen Deion is actually a terrible coach lol, but an incredible recruiter/motivator. I think he has more leverage at Colorado when he's bringing a starting QB and an all American WR/CB with him. Reminds me a bit of the Lavar Ball situation.

I've said many times that Tomlin missed his true calling: college HC or Boys and Girls club Director

 

[Ryder71]

Pushing that sled looks to be paying off.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The vibes I'm feeling about Russell Wilson going into this year right now are extremely not good.

I've said many times that Tomlin missed his true calling: college HC or Boys and Girls club Director

I think Tomlin would be one of the best recruiting college HCs in the NCAA, but I don't think he's enough of a hard ass to really push college students. He already has some criticism thrown at him for being a bit too soft in the NFL and overly relying on the players to police themselves, it would be even worse in college.

 

[xlm34]

I wasn’t expecting much from a healthy Wilson. I think a hobbled Russell Wilson will be a train wreck.

 

[SomeDude]

This is going to be a 6-11 team.

 

[T1K]

Russ is getting the excuses set up already…

 

[WickedWrister]

Russ is getting the excuses set up already…

#7 would be proud

 

[T1K]

#7 would be proud

 

[WickedWrister]