OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Its January and we are still talking about Handball!?! Currently 10-6

[Peat]

I don't think Pickens wants to be on another team to chase a new contract, I think he wants a new contract this summer period. Virtually every other player in this situation would.

 

[WickedWrister]

There's targets but I dislike going into a poor draft thinking I have to get a certain level of player here. Sometimes you get lucky and Zach Frazier is there when you want him. Sometimes you don't and you take Artie Burns because your ideal target went one pick before. If it happens it happens, but I'd rather be safe there.

You've also got to consider fit. Egbuka profiles mostly as a slot guy. Is that what we need?

I'm more intrigued by Burden but he also profiles as more of an underneath YAC guy, which honestly is something we could use.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

There's targets but I dislike going into a poor draft thinking I have to get a certain level of player here. Sometimes you get lucky and Zach Frazier is there when you want him. Sometimes you don't and you take Artie Burns because your ideal target went one pick before. If it happens it happens, but I'd rather be safe there.

You've also got to consider fit. Egbuka profiles mostly as a slot guy. Is that what we need?

On Egbuka, yes. I would say a really good slot guy is exactly what the team needs especially if they keep GP or sign an X.

But Egbuka isn’t just a slot guy. Think of him like Amon-Ra St. Brown. Who can play slot and pop outside as well.

And I totally agree with picking the best player regardless of many positions. Aka, no Artie Burns more TJ Watt.

If the best player is a CB/DL/WR/G then take the player. I’d may even say T. They could move Fautanu inside. Or even Broderick.

And if a true elite player drops to you. Take them. Ex Malaki Starks.

 

[pistolpete11]

Is there a single person here who expects the Steelers to beat the Ravens?

Kind of a trap game for the Ravens.

They are looking past the Steelers just as we are. Their All Pro receiver is out but Harbaugh says that he will be back in round two of the playoffs.

The Steelers are fairly healthy too.

This is just the kind of game teams blow. The Steelers might actually end up winning one despite Tomlin.

I doubt it. But Tomlin has a horseshoe up his rear with his job. So, in a backward logic do just enough to keep that genius rep with a certain segement kind of way, the Steelers might just edge a win out so that Tomlin remains coach for life.

I'm not crazy enough to pick Mike Tomlin in a playoff game, but I think it's going to be classic Steelers-Ravens, first team to 20 wins kind of game.

Flowers being out is huge. Steelers can really key on Henry and Jackson running. He ran over them last time out, but they did a great job on him in the first meeting. They did a great job on Saquon. For all their warts, when they decide to take something away, they can usually figure out a way to do it, even if it ends up leaving something else open lol. I just don't think the Ravens have the weapons to take advantage of it without Flowers.

Plus, Harbaugh/Jackson have playoff struggles of their own.

So I'm expecting the worst of both worlds. A loss + "BuT tOmLiN kEpT iT cLoSe WhEn ThEy WeRe HuGe UnDeRdOgS!!1"




.....or they get smoked. Certainly on the table.

 

[WickedWrister]

On Egbuka, yes. I would say a really good slot guy is exactly what the team needs especially if they keep GP or sign an X.

But Egbuka isn’t just a slot guy. Think of him like Amon-Ra St. Brown. Who can play slot and pop outside as well.

And I totally agree with picking the best player regardless of many positions. Aka, no Artie Burns more TJ Watt.

If the best player is a CB/DL/WR/G then take the player. I’d may even say T. They could move Fautanu inside. Or even Broderick.

And if a true elite player drops to you. Take them. Ex Malaki Starks.

Yeah, best player available at the intersection of organizational weakness is almost never a bad strategy, assuming you actually take the best player available. This doesn't seem like a terrible class for our needs, except for QB.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I don't think Pickens wants to be on another team to chase a new contract, I think he wants a new contract this summer period. Virtually every other player in this situation would.

Why would he want to remain on a team that keeps 95 percent of plays three yards from the line of scrimmage? And half of those behind the line of scrimmage.

 

[The Old Master]

Is there a single person here who expects the Steelers to beat the Ravens?

Kind of a trap game for the Ravens.

They are looking past the Steelers just as we are. Their All Pro receiver is out but Harbaugh says that he will be back in round two of the playoffs.

The Steelers are fairly healthy too.

This is just the kind of game teams blow. The Steelers might actually end up winning one despite Tomlin.

I doubt it. But Tomlin has a horseshoe up his rear with his job. So, in a backward logic do just enough to keep that genius rep with a certain segement kind of way, the Steelers might just edge a win out so that Tomlin remains coach for life.

ok, will the real jaded please stand up.

 

[Andy99]

I'm not crazy enough to pick Mike Tomlin in a playoff game, but I think it's going to be classic Steelers-Ravens, first team to 20 wins kind of game.

Flowers being out is huge. Steelers can really key on Henry and Jackson running. He ran over them last time out, but they did a great job on him in the first meeting. They did a great job on Saquon. For all their warts, when they decide to take something away, they can usually figure out a way to do it, even if it ends up leaving something else open lol. I just don't think the Ravens have the weapons to take advantage of it without Flowers.

Plus, Harbaugh/Jackson have playoff struggles of their own.

So I'm expecting the worst of both worlds. A loss + "BuT tOmLiN kEpT iT cLoSe WhEn ThEy WeRe HuGe UnDeRdOgS!!1"




.....or they get smoked. Certainly on the table.

Andrews and Lively are huge weapons and they’ll take advantage of the Steelers safeties and LBs…

 

[pistolpete11]

Andrews and Lively are huge weapons and they’ll take advantage of the Steelers safeties and LBs…

Andrews had a total of 59 yards against them this year.

If they win the game on the back of Likely...more power to them.

 

[JTG]

This draft is basically aligned perfectly for Steelers needs. They should be able to really fill some big holes and be set up really well for 26/27. Both drafts are going to be loaded with QBs.

I don't think Pickens wants to be on another team to chase a new contract, I think he wants a new contract this summer period. Virtually every other player in this situation would.

He's not going to get one. They are going to hold it in front of his face to make him act like a good boy next year.

 

[WickedWrister]

These CFB Playoffs semis have been nuts

 

[Peat]

And if a true elite player drops to you. Take them. Ex Malaki Starks.

Starks would fit team needs quite well imo. Maybe not as much as others but he'd be a good nickel CB for the team immediately and offer a succession plan for Fitzpatrick which I think has started to matter quite a lot.

He's not going to get one. They are going to hold it in front of his face to make him act like a good boy next year.

I'd hope not but cannot say that with confidence when it comes to the Steelers and imagine that if they do trade him, his new team would give in. What you gonna do? Pay up for Pickens just to watch him hold out all summer and then maybe bugger off if he's any good, or go all in because you need him to work?

 

[ColePens]

Let's f***ing gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo O-H

 

[End of Line]

Let's f***ing gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo O-H

 

[bigdaddyk88]

This draft is basically aligned perfectly for Steelers needs. They should be able to really fill some big holes and be set up really well for 26/27. Both drafts are going to be loaded with QBs.



He's not going to get one. They are going to hold it in front of his face to make him act like a good boy next year.

I will add they might even use the tag on him in 26.

 

[wheelz87]

Let's f***ing gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo O-H

I-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Wattsburgh]

Explain to me why Tomlin hates Roman Wilson.

 

[Gold Diamond]

PSU: always the bridesmaid to OSU's bride.

 

[Empoleon8771]

On Egbuka, yes. I would say a really good slot guy is exactly what the team needs especially if they keep GP or sign an X.

But Egbuka isn’t just a slot guy. Think of him like Amon-Ra St. Brown. Who can play slot and pop outside as well.

And I totally agree with picking the best player regardless of many positions. Aka, no Artie Burns more TJ Watt.

If the best player is a CB/DL/WR/G then take the player. I’d may even say T. They could move Fautanu inside. Or even Broderick.

And if a true elite player drops to you. Take them. Ex Malaki Starks.

I asked my OSU fan and he mentioned that Edbuka can both play slot and outside, but he also said that the Steelers just drafted a lesser version of him last year with Roman Wilson. Egbuka does seem really interesting but I wonder if going after a more deep threat like Bond fits the WR group more.

That said, if Wilson would have done anything this year, I think we'd have a significantly more clear picture on what kind of WR they should be looking at.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I asked my OSU fan and he mentioned that Edbuka can both play slot and outside, but he also said that the Steelers just drafted a lesser version of him last year with Roman Wilson. Egbuka does seem really interesting but I wonder if going after a more deep threat like Bond fits the WR group more.

That said, if Wilson would have done anything this year, I think we'd have a significantly more clear picture on what kind of WR they should be looking at.

Kind of like where we were with CA3 a couple years ago. I don’t say “plan as though Wilson’s not there” but almost kinda that. I like the Amon-Ra comp for Egbuka but can the Steelers offense get the most out of a guy like that?

 

[JTG]

Starks would fit team needs quite well imo. Maybe not as much as others but he'd be a good nickel CB for the team immediately and offer a succession plan for Fitzpatrick which I think has started to matter quite a lot.



I'd hope not but cannot say that with confidence when it comes to the Steelers and imagine that if they do trade him, his new team would give in. What you gonna do? Pay up for Pickens just to watch him hold out all summer and then maybe bugger off if he's any good, or go all in because you need him to work?

It's boiling down to another Bell situation

I will add they might even use the tag on him in 26.

They won't. He'll complain enough and be enough of a problem. My honest fear is that they just let him walk because they don't want to deal with him and that would be the biggest misuse of assets we have seen here in a long time. They have to leverage Pickens.

Precendent is set - "volunteers not hostages."

 

[Factorial]

PSU: always the bridesmaid to OSU's bride.

Have you followed this Stiller season? If you have, you would know the answer to this question.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

It's boiling down to another Bell situation


They won't. He'll complain enough and be enough of a problem. My honest fear is that they just let him walk because they don't want to deal with him and that would be the biggest misuse of assets we have seen here in a long time. They have to leverage Pickens.

Precendent is set - "volunteers not hostages."

Precedent is also i will tolerate you til i can replace you and right now they don’t have a replacement