OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 2022 Handball season has arrived!

[Empoleon8771]

I’m not going to fault Kenny for trying to win the game. Both of those passes were made to try to pick up needed chunks of yards. He’s a rookie and make rookie throws but let’s not get carried away after 3 starts.

I agree, but I also think it's fair to criticize him when he doesn't make the appropriate decisions. You hope he learns from these mistakes and adjusts his gameplay going forward, but the decisions still deserve criticism.

He needed to take the points and trust his defense on the 2nd INT, and he absolutely needed to just take the yards and get out of bounds on the 3rd INT. Instead, he tried to play hero both times.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

4 more Ls for Tomlin to lock it down

 

[ChaosAgent]

What worries me about Kenny at this point is that he is producing all of the turnovers associated with a rookie gunslinger finding his way without any of the explosiveness.

1 passing play over 13 yards the entire game? That is just terrible.

The offensive productivity is terrible with him. Like Trubisky. Except IMO the line is working it's way towards "average" at this point.

I'm not going to conclude one way or the other, but as of now it's 60/40 "move on"

 

[Shaftception]

24 year old rookie, BTW.

Not quite Dennis Quaid but not exactly 2017 Juju either.

This is the other worrying aspect of Kenny next to his hometown connections and whether he'd be properly judged by the team because of the yet to be proven worthy hype around him, he's not young. He's only one year younger than Burrow and Lamar.

He likely doesn't have much more room to grow talent wise.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Another silver lining.

The Steelers would have to win six of the remaining nine games to hit .500.

We never need to hear that stupid stat again.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This is the other worrying aspect of Kenny next to his hometown connections and whether he'd be properly judged by the team, he's not young. He's only one year younger than Burrow and Lamar.

He likely doesn't have much more room to grow talent wise.

He doesn't need to grow talent wise, he just needs to adjust to the NFL game and learn what works and what doesn't work in the NFL. Talent isn't the issue with him, at least from what we've seen. It's about making the right decisions, which will hopefully come with time.

What he needs to do is learn what he can and can't do at the NFL level and get a good OC. Games like today should give him a very clear idea of what he can and can't do. You can't go out and play hero like you're going against some shitty ACC team in the NFL.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Final thought:

Get the f***ing ball to Pickens!

Can you imagine a player like him being so rarely involved on any other team?

 

[ChaosAgent]

This is the other worrying aspect of Kenny next to his hometown connections and whether he'd be properly judged by the team because of the yet to be proven worthy hype around him, he's not young. He's only one year younger than Burrow and Lamar.

He likely doesn't have much more room to grow talent wise.

The org really is all bluster, hype, proximity bias and nepotism at this point so I don't blame you for thinking they are hurtling towards the wrong decision.

That said, KP is Colbert's guy more than anyone else and Colbert is no longer in the org.

 

[Shaftception]

If he didn’t play at Pitt, Steelers don’t draft him in the 1st. I 100% believe that.

You're probably right, Tomlin I'm pretty sure mentioned how much them already being familiar with him for years prior to the draft because he trained in the same building made them comfortable drafting him.

Hey, he's still got plenty of time to prove himself worthy of the hype, I just hope he's judged fairly, positive or negative.

This team needs to get this one right. The current talent on the roster ain't getting any younger (Watt, Minkah, Heyward, etc.)

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Tomlin made some nice adjustments early in the second and I think he deserves props.

Figured I’d add some positivity here.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Great he drove us down the field twice at the end, not so great he threw very bad pics.

 

[xlm34]

This is the other worrying aspect of Kenny next to his hometown connections and whether he'd be properly judged by the team because of the yet to be proven worthy hype around him, he's not young. He's only one year younger than Burrow and Lamar.

He likely doesn't have much more room to grow talent wise.

The age thing is so overrated though. He has the physical traits to play at this level. He doesn’t need to get bigger or stronger or faster. He just needs to adjust to the NFL level and learn not to play hero ball.

That’s going to be the case whether you’re 24 or 21.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The age thing is so overrated though. He has the physical traits to play at this level. He doesn’t need to get bigger or stronger or faster. He just needs to adjust to the NFL level and learn not to play hero ball.

That’s going to be the case whether you’re 24 or 21.

Exactly, this is 100% spot on. I've seen nothing from Pickett that makes me think the physical traits aren't there. It's just about him playing smart with the ball and not thinking he's playing against some shitty ACC team.

He has the arm, accuracy and poise you want from a QB, he just needs to learn what he can do and what he can't do in the NFL. Instead of being able to do that on a team that would carry him, like the 2004 Steelers did with Ben, he needs to learn that while being on a clusterf*** of a team that the 2022 Steelers are.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Tomlin made some nice adjustments early in the second and I think he deserves props.

Figured I’d add some positivity here.

Reported for positivity.

That's just not how we roll in this town.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The age thing is so overrated though. He has the physical traits to play at this level. He doesn’t need to get bigger or stronger or faster. He just needs to adjust to the NFL level and learn not to play hero ball.

That’s going to be the case whether you’re 24 or 21.

He doesn't have outstanding physical traits. He's mobile but not overly so and his hands make it hard for him to drive the ball to the extent an Allen or Herbert can. Look at the fluttering on the 2nd pick. He also never had to play in December at Pitt. I think his ceiling is Derek Carr...which, fine, I really like DC, but he needs to develop in his reading of the game.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Reported for positivity.

That's just not how we roll in this town.

Snitches get stitches where I come from.

 

[Pens x]

If he didn’t play at Pitt, Steelers don’t draft him in the 1st. I 100% believe that.

Oh, no doubt. Also, this city and even the media would be ripping this team to shreds for drafting him if he went to any other school (besides WVU or Penn State).

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Exactly, this is 100% spot on. I've seen nothing from Pickett that makes me think the physical traits aren't there. It's just about him playing smart with the ball and not thinking he's playing against some shitty ACC team.

He has the arm, accuracy and poise you want from a QB, he just needs to learn what he can do and what he can't do in the NFL. Instead of being able to do that on a team that would carry him, like the 2004 Steelers did with Ben, he needs to learn that while being on a clusterf*** of a team that the 2022 Steelers are.

I said he needs to be like Tua and master the RPo game and throw guys open with anticipation like jones if he wants to be successful in the nfl. That’s how you survive with limited arm strength. He can not be the gunslinger whipple let him be in college

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Isn't it miraculous how Juju is suddenly a deep threat again?

That guy knew what he was doing for his career.

Andy Reid, another guy who just fills his team with quality posession receivers mixed with multiple burners.

Again, our OC doesn't know how to use the rookie they aren't playing and the rookie that is playing barely gets targets despite being rock solid all year.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

He doesn't have outstanding physical traits. He's mobile but not overly so and his hands make it hard for him to drive the ball to the extent an Allen or Herbert can. Look at the fluttering on the 2nd pick. He also never had to play in December at Pitt. I think his ceiling is Derek Carr...which, fine, I really like DC, but he needs to develop in his reading of the game.

Exactly floor is Tua and Mac. His ceiling is Cousin and Carr

He doesn't have outstanding physical traits. He's mobile but not overly so and his hands make it hard for him to drive the ball to the extent an Allen or Herbert can. Look at the fluttering on the 2nd pick. He also never had to play in December at Pitt. I think his ceiling is Derek Carr...which, fine, I really like DC, but he needs to develop in his reading of the game.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Isn't it miraculous how Juju is suddenly a deep threat again?

That guy knew what he was doing for his career.

Andy Reid, another guy who just fills his team with quality posession receivers mixed with multiple burners.

Again, our OC doesn't know how to use the rookie they aren't playing and the rookie that is playing barely gets targets despite being rock solid all year.

Juju not being used as a deep threat in KC. Though having Kelce and Maholmes does make his job easier like AB did. I am glad he bet on himself and will get paid this summer

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Juju not being used as a deep threat in KC. Though having Kelce and Maholmes does make his job easier like AB did. I am glad he bet on himself and will get paid this summer

I didn't mean a deep threat in terms of what routes he runs, but more that he is a big play threat once again.

He popped off a huge td today and his yards per catch is very good.

 

[Night Shift]

Tomlin made some nice adjustments early in the second and I think he deserves props.

Figured I’d add some positivity here.

Hes gonna start making an effort now that the NHALS is in jeopardy. Once he gets that 9th win he can take a breath because his work is done.

 

[Josey Wales]

Mike(Never Had a Losing Record)Tomlin amirite

 

[OnMyOwn]

Mike(Never Had a Losing Record)Tomlin amirite

It’ll change to “last year was his only losing season” followed by reasons why.

So it’ll still be beaten to death, at least next season.