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Vector

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Sorry for my "ilippe Myers - Tyler My" post but it would be an scary outcome for us in the Western World.

I’m glad that Phillipe Myers - Tyler Myers got moved here because even thinking about it is basically a hate crime.

I have no idea how that include as a partial quote but it's a disgusting idea that should require an immediate forum ban.

can't see how your post can be considered "disrespectful" to anyone. It is very fair comment. After having lived in the US for 15 years, and putting our house up for sale the day after the tangerine turd got elected, and moving to Canada as soon as we could, believe me, the racism in the US is worse than anyone would believe just watching the politically correct news.

It wasn't. That's just a blanket early warning to everyone since political discussion always degenerate into thread bans and warnings. You two are perfectly fine and I came away learning something about the Iowa polls.
 
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can't see how your post can be considered "disrespectful" to anyone. It is very fair comment. After having lived in the US for 15 years, and putting our house up for sale the day after the tangerine turd got elected, and moving to Canada as soon as we could, believe me, the racism in the US is worse than anyone would believe just watching the politically correct news.

Yeah, the apology was for posting in the GDT about it, but I know way too much about US politics so I see how crazy some people can be, though I'm sure living in it is much different than watching from behind glass.
 
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Yeah, the apology was for posting in the GDT about it, but I know way too much about US politics so I see how crazy some people can be, though I'm sure living in it is much different than watching from behind glass.
What is amazing is how ignorant a lot of Americans are about their own system. They keep spout land of the "free" etc and then not to have a clue about how the process works. My wife taught History for 25 years in California, and a lot tf that was about teaching kids about the US constitution. She constantly hears US politicians make remarks that her grade 8 would know is wrong. She was also surprised at how much more I knew about US system of government than most Americans. Then again, I know a lot about 20 - 30 obscure subjects like hockey history, plate tectonics and tsunamis, not including fascination with concrete and gravel as a result of being an engineer.
 

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Clearly at this point nothing's going back to normal if Trump loses, and some of the animus of his supporters will simply be redirected elsewhere, but I'd just like to not have to stare the reality of President Trump in the face for another four years. It's like having the Kool-aid pitcher for president or something. It's so bizarre that it sucks all the world's attention and mental energy. And if he loses, that part of it at least is over. He'll go off and die somewhere within a few years. We'll probably have to entertain other lies and distortions from the people who follow in his footsteps, but maybe things will start going the other way. And ... I just won't have to think about this stupid shit anymore. Conservatives think (or say they think) "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is blind hatred but it's more considered -- it's largely just people astonished and unnerved that some so pathetic and failed as a person could be admired by so many of us. It would be wonderful to stop having to think about that, even if it doesn't really make our political reality immediately way better.
 

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We'll see what happens but I have a hard time seeing how the election can be close. Without taking an avid interest and digging into polling this election cycle. Polling used to be the domain of math nerds and from what I recall they got really good for 2008 and 2012, but they had a mishap in 2016 and since then I feel have been corrupted by politics & money. There's been a lot of 'the polls say our opponents going to win? Well then we need our own polls that say we will win!' going on, with billionaires taking a vested interest and sinking a lot of money in the election. Not to mention the gambling, which with the rise of online gambling through sports betting on elections has risen with it.

Basically it used to be the media that always had a vested interest in making any election look like a close horse race, as a blowout isn't going to pull in the same ratings. Now I feel like this mindset has effected polling in the US as well. While so many thought Clinton wasn't going to lose the 2016 election, in hindsight she was a known quantity with lots of baggage and ran a pretty bad campaign, while Trump was new to the political scene and had lots of enthusiasm. And even then the election basically came down to a few thousand votes in 3 states, I believe Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, that Clinton thought was a safe Democrat vote and never bothered campaigning in.

For 2024 the weirdness of the Electoral College aside the Harris campaign looks to be the one that has everything going for it.
 

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We'll see what happens but I have a hard time seeing how the election can be close. Without taking an avid interest and digging into polling this election cycle. Polling used to be the domain of math nerds and from what I recall they got really good for 2008 and 2012, but they had a mishap in 2016 and since then I feel have been corrupted by politics & money. There's been a lot of 'the polls say our opponents going to win? Well then we need our own polls that say we will win!' going on, with billionaires taking a vested interest and sinking a lot of money in the election. Not to mention the gambling, which with the rise of online gambling through sports betting on elections has risen with it.

Basically it used to be the media that always had a vested interest in making any election look like a close horse race, as a blowout isn't going to pull in the same ratings. Now I feel like this mindset has effected polling in the US as well. While so many thought Clinton wasn't going to lose the 2016 election, in hindsight she was a known quantity with lots of baggage and ran a pretty bad campaign, while Trump was new to the political scene and had lots of enthusiasm. And even then the election basically came down to a few thousand votes in 3 states, I believe Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, that Clinton thought was a safe Democrat vote and never bothered campaigning in.

For 2024 the weirdness of the Electoral College aside the Harris campaign looks to be the one that has everything going for it.

Just a reminder that Comey told the press the FBI would reopen the investigation against Hilary 11 days before the election in 2016.
 

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I think Trump wins. Just a hunch.

Hes currently the favourite to win on all the betting sites

Last I checked he was ~1.6 and Harris was 2.1 so a pretty sizeable amount too

I think Trump is going to win too - people underestimate how many supporters he has/ how unhappy most of the general population is
 

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My biggest fear is the Gaza thing swaying for-sure left voters to not vote as a protest. The right doesnt have a monopoly on idiots.
 

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Great. Another four years of petty, vain bullshit and White House spokespeople who swear, insult people needlessly and talk about conspiracy theories. Policy aside, I'm so sick of these embarrassing displays.
 
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Looks like I underestimated stupidity again. It is hard to get my head around the idea that people, by majority so far, are choosing that guy. Him winning might be easier on the ears than him crying 4 more years about a rigged election. It will also be interesting to see if they give him a phone in jail LOL.
 

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Looks like I underestimated stupidity again. It is hard to get my head around the idea that people, by majority so far, are choosing that guy. Him winning might be easier on the ears than him crying 4 more years about a rigged election. It will also be interesting to see if they give him a phone in jail LOL.
I've talked to quite a few people locally who have outright stated they would vote Trump over Harris if they were in the US.

A big point is the economy and many Americans feel they are in a worse spot now than 4 years ago.

Similar to the conversation in Canada where the cost of living is out of hand.

People want change for the sake of change and that's why Trump will get in.

Same goes for Pierre.
 

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Great. Another four years of petty, vain bullshit and White House spokespeople who swear, insult people needlessly and talk about conspiracy theories. Policy aside, I'm so sick of these embarrassing displays.
From our perspective, it's actually not bad to have a less sophisticated president who operates purely on a what-have-you-done-for-me basis. Despite the nicer people, having a Democrat in office hasn't meant any easier of a time when it comes to trade. Trump got to parade CUSMA as a landmark protectionist achievement, when it's actually just NAFTA with an automobile wage provision that also benefits Canada (though to the detriment of Mexico).

Problem is, MAGA North will probably be running Ottawa next year and they'll bend over as a matter of ideology.
 

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I've talked to quite a few people locally who have outright stated they would vote Trump over Harris if they were in the US.

A big point is the economy and many Americans feel they are in a worse spot now than 4 years ago.

Similar to the conversation in Canada where the cost of living is out of hand.

People want change for the sake of change and that's why Trump will get in.

Same goes for Pierre.
Makes no sense really. Republicans destroy the economy and Democrats clean up the mess. It's been like that for decades.

US Economy will go into the shitter. Under Trump. He is gonna drag Canada down with him.
 

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I've talked to quite a few people locally who have outright stated they would vote Trump over Harris if they were in the US.

A big point is the economy and many Americans feel they are in a worse spot now than 4 years ago.

Similar to the conversation in Canada where the cost of living is out of hand.

People want change for the sake of change and that's why Trump will get in.

Same goes for Pierre.

Desperation along with promises of better times forces people to make stupid decisions. This happened in the 1930's and is happening again in this time period.

People are getting poorer and the powers that be are going to ensure there will never be redistribution of wealth. There is only one way a society can break out of this ruthless cycle...and it's not pretty.
 

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What a great day! The modern left is beyond the pale, that's why you see the results you see today.

Great. Another four years of petty, vain bullshit and White House spokespeople who swear, insult people needlessly and talk about conspiracy theories. Policy aside, I'm so sick of these embarrassing displays.
Lol. The other side called him Hitler and any of his supporters Nazis. There are no halos over Kamala's or Democrats'/leftist establishment's heads.

Once upon a time I wouldn't have even posted this but I'm also getting tired of one side always having to hide their views because only one view is acceptable.
 

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As long as people are poorer, they will have less access to education. When you have less education, you make uninformed choices. When you make uninformed choices, sometimes you end up with a bullet in your head moments after "safety's off, p****". Which is essentially who has the channel changer in the US political sphere.

People are angry, rightfully so. I'm angry too. I see our living standards decline before my very eyes. The dollar goes so far as the front door these days, I have the same exact job my dad did when he was my age. He was able to easily afford a 4-bedroom house on a big corner lot. I am struggling to get a studio apartment. No question, our way of life is being eroded. But people aren't asking the right questions.

When you are dangled a free and easy $1,000 no strings attached, too many people would kick their friend out of the way to get it. I ask why would someone give away $1,000? Clearly they are getting something out of it. Either lack of care or question - the result is the same. And it's set up like that too...

Like, why would someone whose name I wouldn't so much as balk at 10 years ago decide to plant signs claiming the party in charge is some McCarthyism? How do they benefit? Business and politics are as inbred as an Alabama trailer baby. You are right to be upset, but for the love of god, point the destructive machine gun of hate AWAY from US.

I'm not blaming any one person I'm just saying wake up y'all. We're being robbed while being patted on the head for being good little boys. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
 
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