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It was a super cool world, shame what we did to it.

Like.. the frequency of these events is not gonna decrease. A certain economic/social model has f***ed it all in a mere 300 years.

I just hope the survivors of the coming mad max-esque world prioritize sustainability over growth.
I used to panic about it as a kid in the 90's but I've come to terms with human nature. We're part of nature and will do what we do as a species. Rats, sharks, penguins, ticks and humans all do their thing. We can talk about economic models but it all comes down to eat, shit, sleep, f***.

Let's just hope the Sabres win a cup or two soon.
 
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It was a super cool world, shame what we did to it.

Like.. the frequency of these events is not gonna decrease. A certain economic/social model has f***ed it all in a mere 300 years.

I just hope the survivors of the coming mad max-esque world prioritize sustainability over growth.
Life on earth has been through 5 major extinction events, and you can make an argument that we have been going through a 6th since the last glacial interval.

But if you really wanna be nihilistic, life on earth will end in a few hundred million years anyways, due to increased solar output causing the collapse of the carbon cycle. There will no longer be enough carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to support photosynthesis, plant life will die off and from there the food chain is destroyed. So you could argue that we are just accelerating the inevitable, though ironically in the opposite direction as far as carbon is concerned.
 
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I used to panic about it as a kid in the 90's but I've come to terms with human nature. We're part of nature and will do what we do as a species. Rats, sharks, penguins, ticks and humans all do their thing. We can talk about economic models but it all comes down to eat, shit, sleep, f***.

Let's just hope the Sabres win a cup or two soon.

Life on earth has been through 5 major extinction events, and you can make an argument that we have been going through a 6th since the last glacial interval.

But if you really wanna be nihilistic, life on earth will end in a few hundred million years anyways, due to increased solar output causing the collapse of the carbon cycle. There will no longer be enough carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to support photosynthesis, plant life will die off and from there the food chain is destroyed. So you could argue that we are just accelerating the inevitable, though ironically in the opposite direction as far as carbon is concerned.

Eh, I find it all kind of an excuse for inaction. Everyone is free to feel how they like about it obviously, but we’re the only species consciously f***ing other people and the world over, and we’re largely ok with it because we’re currently comfortable. We know there are solutions, we can’t personally make ‘em happen, so go with the system I guess, even as we know said system leads to suffering and death elsewhere. I don’t really worry about the environment as much (species will adapt/evolve/rebound), I worry more about who and what we’re setting up for the future. Like, we’re just waltzing towards some Elysium sorta world, but as long as the system doesn’t destroy us in this generation, f*** it, it’s cool. Bit much and bleak for hf, but just to give my thoughts on it all a brief wrap, there we are.
 
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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.

Good luck, Matt
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
Yeah, good luck Matt. Enjoy some extra summer time with the kids while you're job hunting.

My wife and I work at the same location, but not together (different depts). She had to let go her contractor effective next Friday. Other layoffs coming, announced last week. We have a fair amount of contractors, so I don't know how extensive the permanent workforce will be hit, but it won't be zero. Wife and I will be on vacation during the time range the layoffs are planned, and allegedly an individual can't be laid off when he/she is on vacation, so I think we're okay (I'd transition to retirement if laid off, then decide what's next). We are tempted to tell our bosses in advance that if one of us is laid off, let us know at that time, as we'll add another week to our vacation. Conversely, the hourly production workforce (direct labor, non-overhead) has a new cohort starting in July to replenish attrition from 2023 YTD retirements, etc.
 

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Yeah, good luck Matt. Enjoy some extra summer time with the kids while you're job hunting.

My wife and I work at the same location, but not together (different depts). She had to let go her contractor effective next Friday. Other layoffs coming, announced last week. We have a fair amount of contractors, so I don't know how extensive the permanent workforce will be hit, but it won't be zero. Wife and I will be on vacation during the time range the layoffs are planned, and allegedly an individual can't be laid off when he/she is on vacation, so I think we're okay (I'd transition to retirement if laid off, then decide what's next). We are tempted to tell our bosses in advance that if one of us is laid off, let us know at that time, as we'll add another week to our vacation. Conversely, the hourly production workforce (direct labor, non-overhead) has a new cohort starting in July to replenish attrition from 2023 YTD retirements, etc.
Things getting shitty in the corporate world again (or still)? I‘ve told numerous folks that if I were entering the IT workforce today, I’d be looking at Info Security or Data Analytics. No way in hell I would ever take a position as a developer in today’s world.
Hope you land softly, Matt.

And BG- retirement is a good thing if you can do it. We‘re enjoying it (he says as he types this on an iPad while sitting in a lounge chair on the patio).
 
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Sorry to hear, @TehDoak. All the best.

I've come to grips with the realization that I won't be able to retire - that I will work until I pass on - and that when I do buy the farm, it won't matter how long I've been working for whoever I work for. They'll just post the 'help wanted' ad and hire someone that they can pay less.

Please continue to enjoy Arby's.
 

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Things getting shitty in the corporate world again (or still)? I‘ve told numerous folks that if I were entering the IT workforce today, I’d be looking at Info Security or Data Analytics. No way in hell I would ever take a position as a developer in today’s world.
Hope you land softly, Matt.

And BG- retirement is a good thing if you can do it. We‘re enjoying it (he says as he types this on an iPad while sitting in a lounge chair on the patio).
This past Monday I started my 34th year with the same company. I suppose a rarity these days. I've been working since 1982, and have held a job (sometimes two or three) continuously for all but a little less than 12 months in that entire time. My hope / plan is to go another 6 years as my wife is that many years younger than me. If things change (our health, her parent's health, layoffs, etc.,) we'll modify our plans accordingly. My dad was on medical disability for nearly 2 decades before he passed on, so to me it's all been gravy (the opportunity to work). Wife and I would both like to do different jobs while we have our health before we fully retire, so there's that too. I have joked for years that if I was laid off, it would take me 6 months to catch up on the job work I'm behind on. Similarly, if I was laid off, I have at least 6-12 months of home repairs and maintenance, yard stuff, etc., to keep me busy, not counting other projects I have postponed for years.
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
Good luck on the hunt.
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.

Sorry to hear that. Glad you have severance and bennies for a bit.

I hate job hunting. Hate. It.
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
That sucks, man, good luck.
 

oldgoalie

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Sorry to hear that. Glad you have severance and bennies for a bit.

I hate job hunting. Hate. It.
the older we get, the more it sucks. you would think corporate america would have learned that older folks means more experienced folks. but they don't give a shit about that. as long as the stock is going up, that's all that matters.
 
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the older we get, the more it sucks. you would think corporate america would have learned that older folks means more experienced folks. but they don't give a shit about that. as long as the stock is going up, that's all that matters.
After I retired from active duty, I got hired right back as a GS civilian. I had to spend 6 months in between working in the civilian world. Never again.
 
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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
U need this:
 

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Welp, was laid off yesterday. Not a huge deal, getting a decent severance package. 3 months full pay with insurance, etc. My wife makes enough where we won't be in trouble even if I can't find something.

The worst part is having to apply for jobs again...and having to answer the phone when an unknown number comes in. Ugh.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck with everything.
 

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the older we get, the more it sucks. you would think corporate america would have learned that older folks means more experienced folks. but they don't give a shit about that. as long as the stock is going up, that's all that matters.
It's actually quite the opposite, younger hires will work for less and are easier to manipulate. Also it doesn't pay to stay in one place anymore. Change jobs and change often. They aren't going to increase your salary much once hired. Companies no longer give AF about loyalty or experience.
 
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It's actually quite the opposite, younger hires will work for less and are easier to manipulate. Also it doesn't pay to stay in one place anymore. Change jobs and change often. They aren't going to increase your salary much once hired. Companies no longer give AF about loyalty or experience.
In my experience, that is not exactly true in every instance.

My wife has bounced around a lot. I have been with the same company for over two decades.

I make significantly more than she does and I have a ton more vacation than she does. If you are going to bounce around, that works well for people that are good at negotiating things that companies will not immediately give out in a lot of cases. For me, that vacation time (5 weeks currently and I think 6 weeks starting in 2024) is huge. And few companies will offer that to start. At least not in any of the job postings I have looked at recently.

And most companies that say they have unlimited vacation actually have an internal culture where taking significant time off is a bad thing.

Where I work, they do not roll vacation over and the culture is that people use every last day off before the end of the year. As such, we know that December, and even late November, we will be working at far less than all hands on deck.
 
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I got an honest to God rejection email. That was nice. So often, it's just sending things off into the ether, never hearing a word. And the number of puff piece postings out there - things that companies put up as deliberate fakes with no intention of hiring but as a manipulation tactic to show internal folks that they are trying so hard to bring in help when in point of fact they have no intention of hiring anyone is criminally wasteful. There are a few places that the same or almost the same posting surfaces every few months and I know that it's just bullshit to salve the overworked and under-rewarded at whatever firm is posting it. So glad I waste time doing things for fake-ass bullshit like that. The amount of lost productivity nationally because of people applying to jobs that don't exist... good times.
 

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I got an honest to God rejection email. That was nice. So often, it's just sending things off into the ether, never hearing a word. And the number of puff piece postings out there - things that companies put up as deliberate fakes with no intention of hiring but as a manipulation tactic to show internal folks that they are trying so hard to bring in help when in point of fact they have no intention of hiring anyone is criminally wasteful. There are a few places that the same or almost the same posting surfaces every few months and I know that it's just bullshit to salve the overworked and under-rewarded at whatever firm is posting it. So glad I waste time doing things for fake-ass bullshit like that. The amount of lost productivity nationally because of people applying to jobs that don't exist... good times.
While Nate's story ended well, it did have a weird time wasting period. He had his first Zoom interview and it went well. Then, he got a message that his second interview was cancelled for unforeseen circumstances. He did get an email for a background check, but he didn't know what that was about due to the second interview being cancelled.

He texted a few people and didn't hear back. Then he called and left a message on Tuesday in the late afternoon.

He got a call back on Wednesday (which happened to be his 19th birthday) that the second interview was cancelled because he got the job and that he needed to fill out the background check form as that was the last step before orientation.

It would have been nice if they had told him he got the job...
 
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In my experience, that is not exactly true in every instance.

My wife has bounced around a lot. I have been with the same company for over two decades.

I make significantly more than she does and I have a ton more vacation than she does. If you are going to bounce around, that works well for people that are good at negotiating things that companies will not immediately give out in a lot of cases. For me, that vacation time (5 weeks currently and I think 6 weeks starting in 2024) is huge. And few companies will offer that to start. At least not in any of the job postings I have looked at recently.

And most companies that say they have unlimited vacation actually have an internal culture where taking significant time off is a bad thing.

Where I work, they do not roll vacation over and the culture is that people use every last day off before the end of the year. As such, we know that December, and even late November, we will be working at far less than all hands on deck.
I'd wager you are in the minority as far as PTO goes. It doesn't accrue the way it used to, and any time a company wants to claw that agreed upon benefit back from contracted employees, a simple re-org, merger, or capital investment from any number of "asset management" companies are a simple thing to do

And on top of that internal culture you alluded to, unlimited time off (in the good ol' USA at least, no idea what it's like up north or overseas) is just a scam so a company doesn't have to pay out PTO when you're shitcanned for whatever flimsy reason (like taking too much time off).
 

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I'd wager you are in the minority as far as PTO goes. It doesn't accrue the way it used to, and any time a company wants to claw that agreed upon benefit back from contracted employees, a simple re-org, merger, or capital investment from any number of "asset management" companies are a simple thing to do

And on top of that internal culture you alluded to, unlimited time off (in the good ol' USA at least, no idea what it's like up north or overseas) is just a scam so a company doesn't have to pay out PTO when you're shitcanned for whatever flimsy reason (like taking too much time off).
The PTO rules at my company haven't really changed in the 20+ years I've been here.

And my wife's employer isn't that all that different.

:dunno:
 
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