Online Series: The Orville : New Horizons - March 10, 2022 on Hulu

[ThePhoenixx]

It was a great episode, a perfect duplicate of a classic TNG episode.

McFarlane and Co are knocking it out of the park.

Ratings say otherwise. Large viewership for episode 1. People (myself included) were obviously really looking forward to it.

But tuning in to episode 1 (and on) it was obvious that McFarlane decided to use it as his social platform. His disdain for the right, religion, etc. was very obvious to the point that logic and story have gone out the window.

People notice. Ratings have tanked hard. We want to be entertained with episodes that are not preaching to us or throwing disturbing prime time scenes out there, and due to that desire, the episodes have truck sized holes in the plot that are impossible to not notice when they are happening.

They lost half their audience.

Sun	12/30/2018		02-01	1.52	-44.32%†	5.683	-33.59%†
Thurs	01/03/2019		02-02	0.63	-58.55%	2.821	-50.36%
Thurs	01/10/2019		02-03	0.74	17.46%	3.063	8.58%
Thurs	01/17/2019		02-04	0.73	-1.35%	3.012	-1.67%
Thurs	01/24/2019	*	02-05	0.70	-4.11%	3.144	4.38%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Hypernova]

Ratings say otherwise. Large viewership for episode 1. People (myself included) were obviously really looking forward to it.

But tuning in to episode 1 (and on) it was obvious that McFarlane decided to use it as his social platform. His disdain for the right, religion, etc. was very obvious to the point that logic and story have gone out the window.

People notice. Ratings have tanked hard. We want to be entertained with episodes that are not preaching to us or throwing disturbing prime time scenes out there, and due to that desire, the episodes have truck sized holes in the plot that are impossible to not notice when they are happening.

They lost half their audience.

Sun	12/30/2018		02-01	1.52	-44.32%†	5.683	-33.59%†
Thurs	01/03/2019		02-02	0.63	-58.55%	2.821	-50.36%
Thurs	01/10/2019		02-03	0.74	17.46%	3.063	8.58%
Thurs	01/17/2019		02-04	0.73	-1.35%	3.012	-1.67%
Thurs	01/24/2019	*	02-05	0.70	-4.11%	3.144	4.38%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

My reason for not really caring about it anymore is more due to the horrible writing. They come up with great ideas for star trek-like episodes but then the execution is really bad and there's a ton of plot holes or things that make no sense. The latest episode it a good example of it.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

My reason for not really caring about it anymore is more due to the horrible writing. They come up with great ideas for star trek-like episodes but then the execution is really bad and there's a ton of plot holes or things that make no sense. The latest episode it a good example of it.

Yup.

That was my end point.

It's hard to get immersed or have a good feeling at the end of a show if you were jarred out of it by suddenly wondering where the ship went or why they were allowed to murder multiple guards.

Can you imagine? You are wrongfully accused and don't like your guards. You can go on a killing spree and murder said government employees who have wives and kids at home.

Then when they find out your innocent you are free to go! Don't you worry about those multiple homicides, We will wipe em' clean! lol

Good ol' didacticism.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

Ratings say otherwise. Large viewership for episode 1. People (myself included) were obviously really looking forward to it.

But tuning in to episode 1 (and on) it was obvious that McFarlane decided to use it as his social platform. His disdain for the right, religion, etc. was very obvious to the point that logic and story have gone out the window.

People notice. Ratings have tanked hard. We want to be entertained with episodes that are not preaching to us or throwing disturbing prime time scenes out there, and due to that desire, the episodes have truck sized holes in the plot that are impossible to not notice when they are happening.

They lost half their audience.

Sun	12/30/2018		02-01	1.52	-44.32%†	5.683	-33.59%†
Thurs	01/03/2019		02-02	0.63	-58.55%	2.821	-50.36%
Thurs	01/10/2019		02-03	0.74	17.46%	3.063	8.58%
Thurs	01/17/2019		02-04	0.73	-1.35%	3.012	-1.67%
Thurs	01/24/2019	*	02-05	0.70	-4.11%	3.144	4.38%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I am not worried in the slightest.

This is the Star Trek I and many many many others have been waiting for since Enterprise went off the air.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I am not worried in the slightest.

This is the Star Trek I and many many many others have been waiting for since Enterprise went off the air.

Exactly. Some people will overlook things if the message is one they enjoy. That's all and good but then the creators are left with a diminished audience. That's OK for art films but historically Networks want their shows to make money.

The problem is that when one has a large per episode budget (compared to a sitcom) the ratings must support it.

He does have a lot of pull at Fox though. I can see it possibly coming back for another year despite possibly losing money.

If it does I hope they put some more thought in to the episodes and not rush.

 

[Blender]

Ratings say otherwise. Large viewership for episode 1. People (myself included) were obviously really looking forward to it.

But tuning in to episode 1 (and on) it was obvious that McFarlane decided to use it as his social platform. His disdain for the right, religion, etc. was very obvious to the point that logic and story have gone out the window.

People notice. Ratings have tanked hard. We want to be entertained with episodes that are not preaching to us or throwing disturbing prime time scenes out there, and due to that desire, the episodes have truck sized holes in the plot that are impossible to not notice when they are happening.

They lost half their audience.

Sun	12/30/2018		02-01	1.52	-44.32%†	5.683	-33.59%†
Thurs	01/03/2019		02-02	0.63	-58.55%	2.821	-50.36%
Thurs	01/10/2019		02-03	0.74	17.46%	3.063	8.58%
Thurs	01/17/2019		02-04	0.73	-1.35%	3.012	-1.67%
Thurs	01/24/2019	*	02-05	0.70	-4.11%	3.144	4.38%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Seth MacFarlane is making a Star Trek show. You're watching the wrong show if you don't want social commentary.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Seth MacFarlane is making a Star Trek show. You're watching the wrong show if you don't want social commentary.

It had social commentary last season. No problem with that. No problem with Star trek either.

But when that turns to preaching and that preaching turns to didacticism (preaching at the expense of the viewer), then I suppose you have to ignore the gaping plot holes so as to enjoy the social commentary?

Some of you are fine with that. It's obvious that myself and some others don't like sitting through horrible writing so as to be taught what he believes to be true.

Each to their own.

 

[Tawnos]

It was a great episode, a perfect duplicate of a classic TNG episode.

McFarlane and Co are knocking it out of the park.

This is why I despise this show. I don't need a duplicate of TNG... because I have TNG.

 

[Osprey]

They should've started off the season with a bang, IMO. I was pretty surprised that, instead, they led off with a plot about pissing into a volcano--no wonder ratings tanked after that episode--and then followed that up with an episode about porn (are you trying to turn off families and more conservative viewers?). Maybe they feel that they have the Trek fans in their back pocket, so they wanted to hook a wider, comedy-loving audience coming off of football, but the ratings may suggest that that was the wrong move. I hope that Fox has the patience and faith that Paramount did with TNG to give MacFarlane a 3rd season and I hope that he learns from these little mistakes.

This is why I despise this show. I don't need a duplicate of TNG... because I have TNG.

Well, that explains why you like Discovery, then. It's the furthest thing from TNG that you can get .

 

[Jussi]

Really? Really?? Really???

 

[xtra]

That was the most cringe episode I’ve seen of television

 

[Osprey]

It was pretty silly, but I found it cute. I'd rather have an episode like this than the first two of the season, which were silly but in a low-brow way. This was silly in a more mature way. Also, it was an episode that really showed what life is like aboard the ship (and made it seem appealing), which is something that I appreciate even more when it's so lacking in Discovery.

 

[tacogeoff]

Damn this season is trash so far compared to season 1. Maybe i expected to much after that great season.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Not a chance in hell this makes it to season 3.

 

[Roo Returns]

Last night's episode was awkward. I'm sure Penny Johnson Jerald from an actress's POV and getting feature time loved it and how strange it was, but from an audiences POV it was just super awkward.

Maybe Allara leaving messed with the episode sequencing and order, I'm really curious if they ever release that info but yes, this season has waaayyy too many character slow episodes and not enough action.

An analogy is it's a music album (remember those things before mp3s? lol) where all the ballads/tearjerkers start it off so it kills the momentum no matter how good the rest is. I liked Robert Picardo's performance in the Allara goodbye one, and last week was a fine Star Trekish midseason episode, but season 2 has yet to establish anything.

 

[peate]

I absolutely loved it. I haven't laughed so much at a TV show in ages. Data's date episode on TNG paled in comparison to this. You guys need to sharpen your sense of humour. There were so many great one liners I had to pause it a few times. I just knew the rain was coming in the end though.

I'm sure the action will resume in the next episodes but, this was great IMO.

 

[Blender]

It was silly, but I enjoyed it. I thought the jokes worked a lot better than the first two episodes. The dry Issac one liners were killing me.

 

[johnjm22]

Ratings say otherwise. Large viewership for episode 1. People (myself included) were obviously really looking forward to it.

But tuning in to episode 1 (and on) it was obvious that McFarlane decided to use it as his social platform. His disdain for the right, religion, etc. was very obvious to the point that logic and story have gone out the window.

People notice. Ratings have tanked hard. We want to be entertained with episodes that are not preaching to us or throwing disturbing prime time scenes out there, and due to that desire, the episodes have truck sized holes in the plot that are impossible to not notice when they are happening.

They lost half their audience.

Sun	12/30/2018		02-01	1.52	-44.32%†	5.683	-33.59%†
Thurs	01/03/2019		02-02	0.63	-58.55%	2.821	-50.36%
Thurs	01/10/2019		02-03	0.74	17.46%	3.063	8.58%
Thurs	01/17/2019		02-04	0.73	-1.35%	3.012	-1.67%
Thurs	01/24/2019	*	02-05	0.70	-4.11%	3.144	4.38%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Ratings have been in the 3M range since episode 4 of season 1. It's pretty much held steady. Season premiere episodes always get way more views.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

That was a great episode! I don't understand the hate for it. Clarice is one of the strongest characters on the show and anything Issac I eat straight up. I absolutley love watching Issac explore humanity..

 

[Blender]

Ratings have been in the 3M range since episode 4 of season 1. It's pretty much held steady. Season premiere episodes always get way more views.

It was also on a Sunday after football, which always provides a boost.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

I thought this last episode was charming. It’s probably my second favorite episode of the season after episode 3.

 

[Nolan Bombgardener]

Last night's episode was awkward. I'm sure Penny Johnson Jerald from an actress's POV and getting feature time loved it and how strange it was, but from an audiences POV it was just super awkward.

What's with the robophobia?

 

[Jussi]

What's with the robophobia?

Well there's the part about their entire race being racist towards carbon based life forms...

 

[RobBrown4PM]

I thought this last episode was charming. It’s probably my second favorite episode of the season after episode 3.

"Charming" is the perfect word to use to describe this episode. Penny Johnson is a true delight to watch act, she has so much emotion and you can tell she is truly invested in the role. Same goes for Mark Jackson. I'm glad he got the chance to flex his acting muscles.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

LaMarr and Malloy running up to the bridge as fast as they can to blurt out everything they know to everyone describes my work place perfectly.

So much fun