Blue Jays Discussion: The official Davis Schneider Appreciation Society

[Dr.Funk]

Vomit. Bellinger at the reported term and average he's looking for would be awful.

If Toronto wants Ohtani I think they have to offer him a Fred Vanvleet type of high AVV 40-50M short term deal (2 years) so he can enter free agency again at 30 like Matthews and cash in for one more big contract in his prime. I think something like that would be very attractive to him and would give us two years to sell him on the city and organization.


I def think that's part of the offer, Just like with the Clemens deal.

I'd take Bellinger all day everyday at the 21 Mil AAV but 12 years is not even a conversation starter.

 

[stickty111]

I know CJ is a hockey insider and likely knows nothinh, but lets get some added excitement anyways.

 

[Woodman19]

Ohtani makes me moist, Bellinger does not.

 

[habamillions]

Yeah you know what you get from ohtani. Bellinger is not consistent enough

 

[cyris]

I’m not high on the idea of bringing in Ohtani and even I’m getting excited lol

 

[Woodman19]

I’m not high on the idea of bringing in Ohtani and even I’m getting excited lol

It's hard to put into perspective how monumental it would be to this franchise if we landed him. We would vault right into the top 5 spending large market teams and we would probably sellout tickets even if we doubled the prices lol

 

[cyris]

It's hard to put into perspective how monumental it would be to this franchise if we landed him. We would vault right into the top 5 spending large market teams and we would probably sellout tickets even if we doubled the prices lol

I get some of that. There are huge off field implications of getting a guy like this.
But on the field we would be paying a really high price for a guy who’s value comes from being a 2 way player and we don’t even know for sure if he will be able to do that going forward.
He is probably the best bat available but the second best bat would cost a lot less and we wouldn’t be paying him to pitch which we aren’t sure how well he will be able to do again.

That said I certainly wouldn’t be the least bit upset if we did get him

 

[Woodman19]

I get some of that. There are huge off field implications of getting a guy like this.
But on the field we would be paying a really high price for a guy who’s value comes from being a 2 way player and we don’t even know for sure if he will be able to do that going forward.
He is probably the best bat available but the second best bat would cost a lot less and we wouldn’t be paying him to pitch which we aren’t sure how well he will be able to do again.

That said I certainly wouldn’t be the least bit upset if we did get him

His bat last year was elite af. Basically Judgesque in his 62HR season

 

[cyris]

His bat last year was elite af. Basically Judgesque in his 62HR season

I don’t disagree. He is a great hitter. But for 50M+ he needs to get back to being a great pitcher too.
I know TJ has a high success rate these days but it #2 for him. And if we have to give him an opt out before we could even see the benefits of that it’s kinda pointless.

It’s still all pretty exciting though

 

[Amadeus]

Get Ohtani or die tryin

 

[Woodman19]

Didnt we go through this whole Jays vs. Dodgers thing with Freeman?

 

[Discoverer]

They won't sign Ohtani.
They won't sign Ohtani.
They won't sign Ohtani.

If I say it enough maybe I'll stop getting my hopes up.

 

[Woodman19]

If we land him I would argue Kikuchi might be the best FA we ever signed since it helped us land Ohtani lol

 

[Discoverer]

If we land him I would argue Kikuchi might be the best FA we ever signed since it helped us land Ohtani lol

I was thinking the other day that the way Kikuchi's tenure has gone might work in the Jays' favour more than if things had gone well from day one. Rather than the standard talk about how great the city/organization/fans are, he can tell him how he had the worst year of his career and his teammates had his back every step of the way and the organization never gave up on him and lead to the best season of his career.

 

[Dr.Funk]

If we land him I would argue Kikuchi might be the best FA we ever signed since it helped us land Ohtani lol

Probably will have to give him a contract extension

 

[Kurtz]

I get some of that. There are huge off field implications of getting a guy like this.
But on the field we would be paying a really high price for a guy who’s value comes from being a 2 way player and we don’t even know for sure if he will be able to do that going forward.
He is probably the best bat available but the second best bat would cost a lot less and we wouldn’t be paying him to pitch which we aren’t sure how well he will be able to do again.

That said I certainly wouldn’t be the least bit upset if we did get him

Put aside his MVP numbers for a second.

You get a chance to see the modern day Babe Ruth+ in your ballpark any time you want to drop by. That in itself is priceless.

 

[rojac]

Put aside his MVP numbers for a second.

You get a chance to see the modern day Babe Ruth+ in your ballpark any time you want to drop by. That in itself is priceless.

I guess. Individual players are not much of a draw for me.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I guess. Individual players are not much of a draw for me.

You would be the outlier with Ohtani.

 

[saska sault]

You would be the outlier with Ohtani.

If Ohtani signs now, I'm getting tickets before midnight.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

and my least favourite timeline.

Depends if we turn around and go after Yamamoto. I just. Have a feeling ohtani's pitching may have peaked and the no pitching for the next year after t.j isn't going to to change that un easy feeling I have about the idea of signing him

 

[TheTotalPackage]

If you can sign a phenom, and the interest is mutual, you do everything in your powers to try and make it happen. Unicorn players like Ohtani are a once-in-a-generation/lifetime type thing.

 

[Rude Dog]

I hope I am wrong but if I was him would you look at this Jays team as legit contenders? Dodgers may not have won but will be a powerhouse forever as they can essentially attract anyone they almost want. i would be shocked

 

[Habs10Habs]

I guess. Individual players are not much of a draw for me.

Fair enough. But Ohtani could be considered a "Tell your grandkids" type of player. No addition in Toronto sports history would come close to this imo.

 

[cyris]

Fair enough. But Ohtani could be considered a "Tell your grandkids" type of player. No addition in Toronto sports history would come close to this imo.

Sure and that would be nice but in the end I want to see a championship. I dont care much for individual performances.

I’m old enough to remember the previous 2 but I’d like to see one as an adult. Because in the end I’d rather be talking about something like Carter walking off the Phillies then the time I saw a guy pitch and hit.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Sure and that would be nice but in the end I want to see a championship. I dont care much for individual performances.

I’m old enough to remember the previous 2 but I’d like to see one as an adult. Because in the end I’d rather be talking about something like Carter walking off the Phillies then the time I saw a guy pitch and hit.

Why not both.