HF Habs: The official 2023-2024 tank thread

[RationalExpectations]

I am not a tank fan but you ve got to admire Anderson s dedication to tanking. The guy is systematically taking the wring decision in all zones.

 

[Hacketts]

I am not a tank fan but you ve got to admire Anderson s dedication to tanking. The guy is systematically taking the wring decision in all zones.

buddy may actually retire this offseason.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

buddy may actually retire this offseason.

Would be a great cap relief!

Too bad Hughes didn't capitalize by trading him last year. I could only imagine what we might have received.

 

[morhilane]

The battle of the last wild spot in the East is intense!

And there big chances that it's going to be decided by the Habs last two games. But really, it's all in Detroit's hands. Their last remaining games are Leafs, Capitals, Pens and Habs x2...

 

[Habs Halifax]

5 games left.
* 2 at home and 3 on the road
* 1 against the Sens on the road
* Home and home against the Wings to finish the season who are chasing the playoffs.
* One against the Islanders who are chasing the playoffs.

If we win 2/5, there is a good chance we finish 5th last. Habs don't have many RW's so if we end up tied with another team, we will get the lower seed.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

5 games left.
* 2 at home and 3 on the road
* 1 against the Sens on the road
* Home and home against the Wings to finish the season who are chasing the playoffs.
* One against the Islanders who are chasing the playoffs.

If we win 2/5, there is a good chance we finish 5th last. Habs don't have many RW's so if we end up tied with another team, we will get the lower seed.

That game against the Sens is absolutely must-lose. I know we haven’t been good against them recently, but if anything that scares me more because the guys will be motivated to get one against them before next season.

 

[BergevinBurner]

That game against the Sens is absolutely must-lose. I know we haven’t been good against them recently, but if anything that scares me more because the guys will be motivated to get one against them before next season.

Outside of their game against us, I don't think Ottawa has much of a chance in any of their remaining games. If we beat them in regulation then it's probably a safe bet that we finish above them.

 

[417]

What if we end up picking 5th and the Sens and Yotes end up picking better players at 6th and 7th?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

What if we end up picking 5th and the Sens and Yotes end up picking better players at 6th and 7th?

I don't think anybody would be suprised

 

[Tuggy]

What if we end up picking 5th and the Sens and Yotes end up picking better players at 6th and 7th?

 

[417]

I don't think anybody would be surprised

Like I get it, the lower you finish, the higher your chances at drafting a great player...it's just if you look at the draft historically, that's just not true.

You don't scout a draft slot, you scout players.

The Habs are going to clearly end up 5, 6 or 7...wherever they land, they just have to make sure not to miss.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Like I get it, the lower you finish, the higher your chances at drafting a great player...it's just if you look at the draft historically, that's just not true.

You don't scout a draft slot, you scout players.

The Habs are going to clearly end up 5, 6 or 7...wherever they land, they just have to make sure not to miss.

I just don't want to pass Calgary cause that puts us a little bit deeper into the draft class than I'd like, especially if anyone behind that pick jumps up.

And I don't want to pass Ottawa because it's a f***ing joke they are even near us.

That being said, it's all about the incremental improvements in the draft lottery odds for Celebrini. I'll take the extra percentages if we can get them.

 

[417]

I just don't want to pass Calgary cause that puts us a little bit deeper into the draft class than I'd like, especially if anyone behind that pick jumps up.

And I don't want to pass Ottawa because it's a f***ing joke they are even near us.

That being said, it's all about the incremental improvements in the draft lottery odds for Celebrini. I'll take the extra percentages if we can get them.

Yeah I get that, but we're splitting hairs at this point. I think there's what? a 2% difference between 5th to 7th?

Meh....but again, I get it, it would be sweet to somehow win the lottery, but I'm not pressed about finishing 5, 6 or 7. Not with the way this draft is looking.

 

[habsterr]

What if we end up picking 5th and the Sens and Yotes end up picking better players at 6th and 7th?

Yotes drafting is bad and I don't have much faith. Sens drafting is strong, I'm expecting it to be much better than our selection.

 

[Runner77]

Like I get it, the lower you finish, the higher your chances at drafting a great player...it's just if you look at the draft historically, that's just not true.

You don't scout a draft slot, you scout players.

The Habs are going to clearly end up 5, 6 or 7...wherever they land, they just have to make sure not to miss.

True but where you have similarly ranked players at a given draft slot and you can draft one that doesn’t have the rib cage of a chicken, you fill more than one need as there are only so many smallish players a team can roster — and with Caufield and Hutson as part of this team’s future, give me the 6’4 specimen, all other things being similar.

Better chance to scoop up that guy at 5th than 7th.

 

[417]

Yotes drafting is bad and I don't have much faith. Sens drafting is strong, I'm expecting it to be much better than our selection.

Is it? Debatable...but we're talking about an entirely new scouting staff from the one that was in place the last decade or so.

Maybe all 3 teams end up really happy with whoever they pick at whatever spot they end up.

 

[BergevinBurner]

What if we end up picking 5th and the Sens and Yotes end up picking better players at 6th and 7th?

If it were up to me, we would fire our entire scouting department and replace it with an espionage department with the goal of obtaining Dallas's draft list every year.

 

[417]

True but where you have similarly ranked players at a given draft slot and you can draft one that doesn’t have the rib cage of a chicken, you fill more than one need as there are only so many smallish players a team can roster — and with Caufield and Hutson as part of this team’s future, give me the 6’4 specimen, all other things being similar.

Better chance to scoop up that guy at 5th than 7th.

Sure but this assumes that whoever you're picking is destined to be a Montreal Canadiens.

Draft picks are assets, maybe whoever they end up drafting gets traded in a package for an established player in 2 years...maybe Caufield or Hutson get traded.

We don't really know.

I haven't really followed the draft prospects this season, but Lindstrom seems to fit the profile of what we need and in the range of where we might draft. So I agree with you in theory, I just try not to look too deep into how things look now, because they rarely end up playing out that way.

Look at how excited we were to pick ahead of the Sens in 2018, we end up with KK they pick up Brady Tkachuk...stuff like that happens all the time, it's an inexact science, all you can hope is that the teams scouts are doing their jobs and picking the best player when it comes their turn to speak at the mic and that 5-10 years from that point, you look back and say they selected the best player at that slot.

 

[Rockomax]

Yeah I get that, but we're splitting hairs at this point. I think there's what? a 2% difference between 5th to 7th?

Meh....but again, I get it, it would be sweet to somehow win the lottery, but I'm not pressed about finishing 5, 6 or 7. Not with the way this draft is looking.

If I'm in the Habs organization, I want to have the luxury of the choice though. Of course, sometimes, it's convenient when the teams in front of you make the wrong choices and the right players fall on your lap. However, if I'm Hughes or Gorton, I want my staff to have the bigger pool to choose from, for better or worse.

 

[417]

If I'm in the Habs organization, I want to have the luxury of the choice though. Of course, sometimes, it's convenient when the teams in front of you make the wrong choices and the right players fall on your lap. However, if I'm Hughes or Gorton, I want my staff to have the bigger pool to choose from, for better or worse.

I'd like the Habs organization or rather, i'd like to have the type of faith in the Habs organization that kind of like @BergevinBurner just wrote, that I have full confidence in them wherever they're selecting and i'm not depending on a bunch of fortunate events coming together like a butterfly effect to select the best player.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Karmic justice would be blowing the doors off the Sens, finishing 1 spot behind them but end up winning the lottery and getting Celebrini.

Thats the kind of world I want to live in.

 

[Ozmodiar]

He’s got so many fingers.

Sweet mother of god ! …. The shadow puppet possibilities!! Limitless!

 

[Rapala]

I am not a tank fan but you ve got to admire Anderson s dedication to tanking. The guy is systematically taking the wring decision in all zones.

People like saying he's a North South player.
I'm stunned at how useless he is at helping a puck out of the zone like a true North South Player.
I will admit it gets worse if he tries anything East West.

 

[sandviper]

The remaining schedules for the Canadiens, Coyotes, Senators and Flames are as follows

Canadiens - Flyers, Islanders, Senators, Red Wings x2

Coyotes - Kraken, Canucks, Oilers, Flames, Oilers

Senators - Panthers, Lightning, Canadiens, Rangers, Bruins

Flames - Sharks, Kings, Ducks, Coyotes, Canucks, Sharks

Ugh, don’t like our chances. Flames should definitely lock up #8.

Sens, maybe they’ll beat us.

Yotes, likely to lose out the rest of the season.

Us? I can see us 7/10 points… Hope Flyers, Isles and Wings come to play.

 

[sandviper]

Would be a great cap relief!

Too bad Hughes didn't capitalize by trading him last year. I could only imagine what we might have received.

Honestly, I think that was a lot of posturing by Hughes. There may had been interest, but I doubt THAT much was being offered like he hinted, unless there was salary retention which I could understand why he said no.