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Rapala said:
That is one of the reasons for the emoji. Reinbacher and the apparent intersest besides the Habs says enough.
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None of those mock drafters thought Nemec was going 2 and he did.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Fans and Mock drafters pick forwards high.
GMs pick defenseman.

When the draft is hyped up by the number of high end defenseman and the teams picking around there, save Montreal, have been picking top end forwards in recent drafts, they are going to love the chance to add a top 4 defenseman to their build.

Don't see them adding the 2nd-4th best forward to their group over what would be their number 1 defenseman.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
He could or he could bust. It's all a projection game. All in all, if Iginla is gone, another forward that is very good will be there.



A lot of them.

San Jose.
Chicago.
Anaheim is not loaded on D, compare their D to the forward group which is currently Terry, Gauthier, MacTavish, Zegras and Carlsson.

Arizona only drafted Simashev.

The D are projected at the top of the class and all of them need defenseman. The forwards aren't going to fly off the board.
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I think people underrate the dmen avalaible this year. They are very good. But there's also good forwards avalaible just not good enough for many teams to pass on those dmen.
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
So was the injury at the WJC. Were they flukes or does he have brittle bones? It will become evident in the next season or 2.
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At this point he’s a much bigger risk than when we got him. But you can’t blame the GM for that.

It’s like I’ve said in the past, it’s worth trading a couple of firsts for McDavid. It’s obviously a great trade. If McDavod gets hit by a bus before he plays for you it was still a great trade at the time. That’s how I feel about the Dach trade. I was nervous when we got him but he played incredibly well. There was no way to predict that stupid injury.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Yeah - gotta be careful of the chart humpers. They don't value defense. NHL GMs sure as hell do.

You might as well quit the mock draft game if you don't AT LEAST have Levshunov going in the top 5. I also don't see NHL GMs allowing Dickinson to slip too far.
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Is Leshunov that good defensively? As good as Reinbacher?
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
At this point he’s a much bigger risk than when we got him. But you can’t blame the GM for that.

It’s like I’ve said in the past, it’s worth trading a couple of firsts for McDavid. It’s obviously a great trade. If McDavod gets hit by a bus before he plays for you it was still a great trade at the time. That’s how I feel about the Dach trade. I was nervous when we got him but he played incredibly well. There was no way to predict that stupid injury.
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I knew he was a very good player. And it's true he wasn't an obvious risk at the time of the trade. Hakws may have felt he was which would explain there willingness to trade him. There were signs but some players get hurt early on and then go on to rarely miss time. It was a good trade. But if he goes dwon again next season HuGo should make their plans assuming he won't ever make it through the whole season.
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
I knew he was a very good player. And it's true he wasn't an obvious risk at the time of the trade. Hakws may have felt he was which would explain there willingness to trade him. There were signs but some players get hurt early on and then go on to rarely miss time. It was a good trade. But if he goes dwon again next season HuGo should make their plans assuming he won't ever make it through the whole season.
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Yeah, it’s imperative that he play a full season. He’s missed way too much. I completely agree on that front.
 
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Colezuki said:
I mean all of these are freak injuries, if it was always a knee, or a shoulder or a wrist I'd agree but

WJC - Wrist Break
Last year - shoulder Tear
This year - ACL/MCL injury.

That points moreso to bad luck then to an injury prone player. I'll concede i'm a huge Dach-Stan and was more excited to watch him this year then any other player, but I think when he comes back next year he'll be a force
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Last thing on the subject but the above is literally the definition of injury prone. When you get injured year after year in different part of your body. If they happen every year, it's not a freak accident, it's the norm.

You cannot fight with genetics unfortunately.
 
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Habs said:
Now we will make the mistake at taking Catton with like the 7-9th pick, a player i've come to dislike very much the last 3 games. Ugh. At least at 5 you have more choices. Maybe Kent can swing something and move up, we need a stud this year
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I'm with you about Catton.. He simply does not fit in to our top 6 and shouldn't be drafted in a top 10 slot (for us).. If we end up "missing" out on Cellebrini or Lindstrom (a need) then I go best RHD (parekh) avail or Silayev.
 
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themilosh said:
I'm with you about Catton.. He simply does not fit in to our top 6 and shouldn't be drafted in a top 10 slot (for us).. If we end up "missing" out on Cellebrini or Lindstrom (a need) then I go best RHD avail or Silayev.
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How doesn't a dogged, puck possession, smart offensive forward who can play C or W not fit in our top 6? Yet Silayev would fit in our future defense?
 
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WeThreeKings said:
No he's not, but he's shown improvement, the offense is another league though and he's an athletic specimen as well.
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He hasn't done much in the games I have listened to and watched so I assumed he wasn't much offensively. He does have 35 pts in 38 games though
 
Boss Man Hughes said:
He hasn't done much in the games I have listened to and watched so I assumed he wasn't much offensively. He does have 35 pts in 38 games though
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As a 19 year old in the NCAA on a medium program.

This is what Owen Power did on a better Michigan Roster in his draft year.

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WeThreeKings said:
How doesn't a dogged, puck possession, smart offensive forward who can play C or W not fit in our top 6? Yet Silayev would fit in our future defense?
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the issue is Catton in a slight/small player, we already have that in Newhook. We need a BIG C to join up with Suzuki as 1/2C, I'm not comfortable with Dach long term.

as for D - I think Parekh is an amazing pick for our team. he is in the mold of Hutson but great trunk strength (like suzuki) which makes Hutson tradeable.

Silayev, I was not high on until I started watching his game tape... sure it is cherry picked, but his skating is sooooo smooth (reminds me of Malakhov) and at 6'7" is in the same mold as Chara, at covering zone entry. His knock is that he doesn;t have much offensive upside, but he has a booming shot and is a very good passer - so he wont carry it end to end but I think he will start to rack up points because of his IQ. He's also a Unicorn (yes that term is used often), but if he pans out as a top 4 LHD, it also makes Mailloux or Guhle tradeable as well, which could be needed to net that top 6 BIG C we so desperately need.
 
morhilane said:
I'm still voting for Arizona to take him and unless they win their last 8 games, they should pick before the Habs.
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I think this is just an easy assumption people are making, like every mock saying Habs will pick the QC player.
Just cause they picked the Russian D man last year, doesn't mean they will this year.
 
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