HF Habs: The official 2023-2024 tank thread

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Non Player Canadiens

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Sabres win 5-3. Kings suck. Lol

Buffalo goes 1 pt up on Montreal, because they played one more game Habs & Sabres are actually tied in winning percentage. Buffalo has more RWs though, so either way they're ahead.

Montreal officially in the 6th spot.
here i am, thinking the Kings are the dark horse to win the cup this year :o
 

HuGort

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Sabres win 5-3. Kings suck. Lol

Buffalo goes 1 pt up on Montreal, because they played one more game Habs & Sabres are actually tied in winning percentage. Buffalo has more RWs though, so either way they're ahead.

Montreal officially in the 6th spot.
The 6th overall be good pick this year. I like to get Dickinson.
 
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Adam Michaels

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Desired results for tonight

- MTL regulation loss to NYI: NYI will move 8 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings.
- OTT win vs. BOS: OTT win + MTL reg. loss = OTT will move 6 pts behind MTL with 4 games in hand.
- ARI win vs. TBL: ARI win + MTL reg. loss = ARI will move 6 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings with 1 game in hand.
- NJ win vs. CAR: NJ win + MTL reg. loss = NJ will move 8 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings with 2 games in hand.
- MIN OT/SO win vs. NSH: MIN win + MTL reg. loss = MIN will move 4 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings. NSH with a loser pt will move 7 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings
- CBJ OT/SO win vs. CGY: CBJ win + MTL reg. loss = CBJ will move 6 pts behind MTL with 1 game in hand. CGY with a loser pt will move 3 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings.

*No matter what tonight, MTL will remain at 27th place (6th OA spot on the draft). BUF beat LAK last night so they passed MTL. However, there is an opportunity for those behind them to catch up a little and those ahead of them to create separation.*
 

CAUFIELD

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We can realistically finish with the 4th pick.

Ottawa got Norris and Pinto back. They should play better. Werenski will also come back soon for CLB. It should also give them a boost .

I don’t think we have any chance of catching SJS, CHI or ANA. Finish 4th last would be best scenario .
 

Seb

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4-6 is where we likely finish, so 8th overall pick at worst. Seems absolutely great in this draft. All these 1 point games won't be too bothering at the end I think.
 
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salbutera

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Sabres have no excuses for still being this bad after a decade+ of high picks, what a clown show organization. I have zero sympathy for them.
That’s exactly the excuse - just drafting high for a decade doesn’t mean they’re being properly groomed / broken into pro level.

As I read many wanting for Habs - Buf gave all these high picks lots of TOI.

How are them apples?
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Desired results for tonight

- MTL regulation loss to NYI: NYI will move 8 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings.
- OTT win vs. BOS: OTT win + MTL reg. loss = OTT will move 6 pts behind MTL with 4 games in hand.
- ARI win vs. TBL: ARI win + MTL reg. loss = ARI will move 6 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings with 1 game in hand.
- NJ win vs. CAR: NJ win + MTL reg. loss = NJ will move 8 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings with 2 games in hand.
- MIN OT/SO win vs. NSH: MIN win + MTL reg. loss = MIN will move 4 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings. NSH with a loser pt will move 7 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings
- CBJ OT/SO win vs. CGY: CBJ win + MTL reg. loss = CBJ will move 6 pts behind MTL with 1 game in hand. CGY with a loser pt will move 3 pts ahead of MTL in the OA standings.

*No matter what tonight, MTL will remain at 27th place (6th OA spot on the draft). BUF beat LAK last night so they passed MTL. However, there is an opportunity for those behind them to catch up a little and those ahead of them to create separation.*
Hoping Ottawa heats up. Not sure they can pass us but hopefully so.

I really think the drop is here. Islanders probably take this one tonight.

Caufield goal, Slaf point, Hab loss would be a perfect night. :) Only other thing would be a Roy tantrum. :laugh:
 

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That’s exactly the excuse - just drafting high for a decade doesn’t mean they’re being properly groomed / broken into pro level.

As I read many wanting for Habs - Buf gave all these high picks lots of TOI.

How are them apples?
Drafting high for years is not a guarantee of anything. If you draft all finesse players that are allergic to working the boards and players who don't check you aren't going anywhere. You have to put together the right mix.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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Drafting high for years is not a guarantee of anything. If you draft all finesse players that are allergic to working the boards and players who don't check you aren't going anywhere. You have to put together the right mix.
You know what’s a guarantee? Not drafting high for years will likely lead you nowhere. We did it for decades.

Our first top five pick in 25 years went onto a HOF career, Hart trophy and led a bad club to the finals.

Never a guarantee that a top pick will pan out. But the more you get the better your odds.
 

V13

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How deep is the draft this year ? I know bit about Celebrini but not much about the rest. Let's say we draft anywhere in the 7-10th range. What kind of potential can we expect ?
 

McGees

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4-6 is where we likely finish, so 8th overall pick at worst. Seems absolutely great in this draft. All these 1 point games won't be too bothering at the end I think.
You guys are much more optimistic than me. 6th I think is our best likely case scenario...but even a win tonight ties us for 9th place. There is a big log jam of teams I want to tank our way out of.
 
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salbutera

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How deep is the draft this year ? I know bit about Celebrini but not much about the rest. Let's say we draft anywhere in the 7-10th range. What kind of potential can we expect ?
All I can deduce from my limited knowledge, if Cellibrini is projected to be 1-2 notches below Bedard who was 1-2 notches below McDavid, and there’s no other prospect projected to be in the Cellebrini sphere….. we’re probably looking at 2022 / 2012 drafts as comparables after 1OA

But every draft has breakout players somewhere in the mix… who’s lucky enough to find that winning lottery ticket?
 

Lafleurs Guy

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All I can deduce from my limited knowledge, if Cellibrini is projected to be 1-2 notches below Bedard who was 1-2 notches below McDavid, and there’s no other prospect projected to be in the Cellebrini sphere….. we’re probably looking at 2022 / 2012 drafts as comparables after 1OA

But every draft has breakout players somewhere in the mix… who’s lucky enough to find that winning lottery ticket?
Eiserman could be a 50 goal guy. But seems to be a one way player. Still, he and Bedard would probably light it up together. There’s a 6’7 blueliner projected to go 2nd. There’s hulking centerman Lindstrom… lots of stuff to choose from.

I hope we move up via trade. We have excess defenseman to trade with. Lindstrom or Eiserman would be pretty awesome.
 

First Line

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You know what’s a guarantee? Not drafting high for years will likely lead you nowhere. We did it for decades.

Our first top five pick in 25 years went onto a HOF career, Hart trophy and led a bad club to the finals.

Never a guarantee that a top pick will pan out. But the more you get the better your odds.
Well put! We need at least 2 more top 10 picks and hopefully one of them will have an impact or allow us to acquire an impact player.
 

morhilane

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How deep is the draft this year ? I know bit about Celebrini but not much about the rest. Let's say we draft anywhere in the 7-10th range. What kind of potential can we expect ?
It's not deep. But since there is so many dmen raising up, a good forward with top 6 potential should still be available in the 7-10 range.
 

rahad

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Sabres win 5-3. Kings suck. Lol

Buffalo goes 1 pt up on Montreal, because they played one more game Habs & Sabres are actually tied in winning percentage. Buffalo has more RWs though, so either way they're ahead.

Montreal officially in the 6th spot.

We dodged a bullet with PLD. What a horrible contract for a prima donna. Already on his third teams before he reach the age of 30....
 
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