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sandviper

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Lafleurs Guy

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montreal said:
SJ is historic as they could be the worst team in NHL history. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

It should even out in time so we'll see maybe they are better then I think they are but if so I don't see how since barely anyone can score goals outside of the top line. Still a lot of hockey left so we'll see how it ends up.

Truly terrible, terrible, bad, it will come down to semantics I'm guessing as it's good to see Slaf show a much better season then his very disappointing rookie year, progress is always what you want to see so if he can be a 50 pt player soon then that would speed things up a bit but there's still so many holes on this roster.

Then you have wait and see who out of all these blueliner they have that you hope you can find one big time star out of the group or two really good ones to go with some just being solid or good then they will be in business. But so far it's hard to say if any will be a real star from the back end or even really good. Or they could have several who knows but for now that blueline doesn't look very good to me.

Ghule has been hyped and I'm a fan but I felt they should have given him time in the AHL to work on his offense, perhaps I was wrong there but I was not as impressed last season in the little I saw at least, compared to the high praise he got around here. He is clearly and NHLer, just I always had concerns over the offense but thought he was an easy lock to be a good NHLer at worst. So right there you know you have 1 D you can build around if need be just a question of how good will he be.

Barron I can't say I'm a huge fan of but I felt he should have had more time in the AHL to get him to work on his defensive game but the offensive game is legit so I can see why as he should be able to stick in the NHL long term due to his tools of offense, skating, mobility, solid frame. I don't think he can handle top ice time and really should be more of a bottom pairing D.

Struble I felt like some were getting carried away with him as he is surprising me by how well he's done in the NHL, it could take a while before we really know what we have in him as I never really believed in the offense and still don't so that could force him to be more of a bottom pairing D.

Harris I have always been a big fan because he's so smart and plays with so much poise. I was very disappointed in how he looked any time i've seen him since the preseason but I hear he's had some good games lately. I feel like this could just be a bit of a Sophmore Slump as I thought he was impressive last year despite how undersized he is. But now I wonder how good will he be as the offense so far has not developed as I had hoped at least not yet. His lack of size is going to be a problem but I am interested to see how much can he progress in the next 4 years.

Xhekaj I felt was getting overrated last year as I thought he would be AHL bound to work on his defensive game, mobility. He's been great in Laval much of the time so perhaps I was wrong there and he was NHL ready as clearly he will be back in the NHL in the not too distant future but I struggle to figure out how good he will be as I like him a lot but he's got holes in his defensive game and he's got to be smart with the penalties.

Looking at that group alone it's hard to project them being very good this or next, of course they could always surprise and perhaps they are now and I just haven't really seen it as I don't watch too much but the little I have seen this year I was not impressed with any of the blueliners which is to say a little concerning.

I also never believed in the goaltending, Allen does seem like a solid backup but I just don't get why they didn't just send him to Laval at the start of the season. Guess they have a plan but the 3 goalie one is not one I can say I ever recall so it's bold.

So am I wrong and the goaltending is better or the young blueliners better then expected, is the offense better then it's shown? If so would you say they make the playoffs next season assuming 90% of the roster is the same.
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In regards to Ghule he’s gotten 30 points in his first 82 NHL games on an offensively starved team. Can’t be disappointed with those numbers, that’s outstanding.

As far as goaltending goes, Montembault has played like a legit number one. People talk about this team being gritty and not quitting- I think there’s some truth to that. But it’s only possible if your goalies hold you in.

Our goaltending numbers above expected are near or at best in league. That’s the real reason we’re sniffing a playoff spot. But the only guy who’s been really consistent is Montie.
 
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bsl

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WeThreeKings said:
Slaf at 19 is playing at a near 60 pt pace since being put on the top line.

That and the progression of so many prospects at the AHL level and other levels, combined with the fact only Celebrini is a stud sure fire top guy in this draft just leaves me with no concerns here.

We are still gonna have a valuable pick and there will be valuable prospects up front to get. The real soothing thing here is that this org gets it and we aren't gonna be mired in a losing stench that can't be lost.
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I watch every game. Slaf’s passing is unbelievable. I see him make multiple great passes every game. Yeesh if he could be joe Thornton light.
 
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WeThreeKings

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bsl said:
I watch every game. Slaf’s passing is unbelievable. I see him make multiple great passes every game. Yeesh if he could be joe Thornton light.
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He had one on the PP that didn't get converted that my brain couldn't comprehend. He had another that Monahan fumbled in the 3rd.

So many great back hand passes and short area passes.

There's really a lot of upside left to see on this kid.
 
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salbutera

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JRichard said:
You expected Newhook and Pearson over Hoffman and Drouin to make that much of a difference? Rest was same guys.
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+ organic growth of young players + not having historic level of injuries + Bruins not having the same historic season meant pts would be distributed + Atlantic division having much more parity as TBay grew weaker (difference between bottom-to-top not of years past)

Habs were never a bottom-5 league team
 
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The really bad teams usually have horrible morale, internal conflict etc...
That is why I, amongst other reasons, estimated a 8-12 pick. These guys are loving to come to rink and play for Marty...The same reason they are 'in' almost every game (and therefore racking up shit tons of OT points).
 
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