GDT: The Official 2015 #hcanes College Football Thread

Boom Boom Apathy

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Sep 6, 2006
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So ACC suspends the officiating crew for multiple errors on that play.

1) "The replay official erred in not overturning the ruling on the field that the Miami player had released the ball prior to his knee being down. If called, this would have ended the game."

2) "The on-field officials erred by failing to penalize Miami for an illegal block in the back at the Miami 16-yard line. If called, the ball would have been placed at the Miami 8-yard line and the game would have been extended for an untimed down."

3) "A block in the back foul was called at the Duke 26-yard line. After the officials conferred, which is appropriate, they correctly determined that the block was from the side, which resulted in the flag being picked up. The replay official was not involved in the decision to pick up the flag; however, the referee did not effectively manage communication and properly explain why the flag was picked up."

4) "In addition, the on-field crew failed to penalize a Miami player for leaving the bench area and entering the field prior to the end of the play. This foul would not have negated the touchdown because it would have been enforced as a dead ball foul."
 

dogbazinho

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So 4 mistakes that cost a team a win and you get a 2 game suspension? I think any 1 of these gets you a suspension but 4 of them to me shows a ref going beyond negligence and veering into outright avoidance of their job duties. Officiating has been a problem in the ACC for awhile and a reckoning is past due.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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So 4 mistakes that cost a team a win and you get a 2 game suspension? I think any 1 of these gets you a suspension but 4 of them to me shows a ref going beyond negligence and veering into outright avoidance of their job duties. Officiating has been a problem in the ACC for awhile and a reckoning is past due.

If that were the case, there'd be no officiating crews. Penalties, such as blocks in the back, are missed in every single game played, so to say you'd suspend any officiating crew that misses a penalty (like a block in the back for instance), means you'd be suspending every crew, every game.
 

dogbazinho

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If that were the case, there'd be no officiating crews. Penalties, such as blocks in the back, are missed in every single game played, so to say you'd suspend any officiating crew that misses a penalty (like a block in the back for instance), means you'd be suspending every crew, every game.

Missed calls live action is one thing and forgivable. Missed calls on review is another matter entirely, 4 of them is just unacceptable.
 

Sens1Canes2

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You're right. 3 and a procedural issue. Although in the ACC's own release they say that the call they made was correctly reversed just not explained so it was a bad call initially, but like I said, live action and forgivable.

Plus the extra guy on the field doesn't affect anything so I wouldn't care about that either.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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Missed calls live action is one thing and forgivable. Missed calls on review is another matter entirely, 4 of them is just unacceptable.

I wasn't stating that their actions were acceptable or that they didn't screw up. I was simply disagreeing with your assertion that "any one of these" gets a suspension. It's simply an unrealistic position to take. My understanding (and correct me if I am wrong) is that one of the 4 issues is that the on field officials missed a block in the back during live action, correct? And that is the type of thing that happens EVERY game, so therefore, any one of these does not warrant a suspension.

The main gaff IMO, is the first one where the replay official failed to over-turn the ruling on the field about his knee being down. Failing to catch a block in the back or failing to notice a guy on the field (that had no effect on the play) is understandable.
 

dogbazinho

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I wasn't stating that their actions were acceptable or that they didn't screw up. I was simply disagreeing with your assertion that "any one of these" gets a suspension. It's simply an unrealistic position to take. My understanding (and correct me if I am wrong) is that one of the 4 issues is that the on field officials missed a block in the back during live action, correct? And that is the type of thing that happens EVERY game, so therefore, any one of these does not warrant a suspension.

The main gaff IMO, is the first one where the replay official failed to over-turn the ruling on the field about his knee being down. Failing to catch a block in the back or failing to notice a guy on the field (that had no effect on the play) is understandable.

It's my understanding that the ACC's finding was that during the review they had the power to call the player down which would have ended the game, the block in the back that they did not initially call and the players on the field which would have let the touchdown stand but I believe given Duke a chance at a run back themselves.

They also took issue with the lack of explanation for reversing the block in the back that they did call. Personally I didn't know that they were allowed to reverse penalties but I guess under official reviews some are allowed.

The game saw a record number of penalties called against Miami so I think the bad officiating evened out but my concern is that the ACC just lets this **** slide again and again, issues apologies, and the bad officiating continues. I've seen worse procedural situations, TA McClendon's touchdown reversal (before review) NSCU vs UNC for example, and it didn't receive the immediate response this seemed to. I think in part to the media exposure of this play in particular.
 

Carolinas Identity*

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facebook just reminded me of this :laugh:

man, those was the times lol

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HisIceness

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Sep 16, 2010
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Remember when WVU was rejected from joining the ACC and then they managed to put up 70 on Clemson? I remember that too.
 

Finnish Jerk Train

lol stupid mickey mouse organization
Apr 7, 2008
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Guess last night means the end of Appalachian's votes in the AP for the year. Not that we had very many, but it was kind of cool to be getting them in our first bowl-eligible season.

I actually forgot about it with all the wedding planning stuff, but apparently I didn't miss much. I only caught the last five minutes, which were pretty depressing.
 

DaveG

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UNC is in the ACC. Do they even have "standards" for academia? :laugh:

Sure they do. For non athletes the course "The History of the Triangle" involves a 30 page term paper that can cover a range of topics from pre-American history to the Tech Boom of the past 20+ years.

Mind you for athletes the term paper is simply drawing a triangle on a piece of paper. Or correctly identifying a picture of Phil Jackson.
 

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