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Boba Fettuccine said:
It was a P85D

I didn't drive it, I was in the front seat. Man, I swear it was 0 to 60 in like 2 seconds or less. It was like the beginning of Montezuma's revenge each time my buddy floored it
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I drove my friends Tesla. That thing is faster than a Al Iafrate slapshot.

The only thing I did not enjoy was when you take your foot of the accelerator then it would slow down. But man I want one bad. Can't wait for the 30-40K priced models. Of course that will be in 5 years or so.
 
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TROLLPOSO said:
I drove my friends Tesla. That thing is faster than a Al Iafrate slapshot.
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Erm, so is my miata... Most cars are faster then a slapshot if you give them long enough...
The only thing I did not enjoy was when you take your foot of the accelerator then it would slow down. But man I want one bad. Can't wait for the 30-40K priced models. Of course that will be in 5 years or so.
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:help:
Sports car SHOULD slow when you lift off the gas, a.) one does so to move to the brake b.) having deceleration on lifted throttle aids in car control durring cornering, in steady cornering pressing on the throttle should induce understeer and lifting should induce oversteer, because this is what you should be doing if you are actually driving.
 
scryan said:
Erm, so is my miata... Most cars are faster then a slapshot if you give them long enough...


:help:
Sports car SHOULD slow when you lift off the gas, a.) one does so to move to the brake b.) having deceleration on lifted throttle aids in car control durring cornering, in steady cornering pressing on the throttle should induce understeer and lifting should induce oversteer, because this is what you should be doing if you are actually driving.
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I come from the exotic world of Honda, VW and Subaru.

#livingthehighlife
 
You come from the world of automatics, lol. Ive driven all of those, and they all engine brake... Maybe not to the same extent, but yeah...
Reclamation Project said:
Lift off oversteer FTL.
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lol.
Much better to have a car that can turn then a car that just plows. Hell, if your not going to make the corner I'd rather go in backwards then forwards :lol:
This is why we brake entering the turn and accelerate through.



Physics though. With out the overrunning clutch in an automatic transmission, lifting off gas causes braking. Braking causes weight to shift the the front. Any car that is anywhere near neutral will oversteer under hard cornering if you just lift the throttle, only way to avoid that is to tune is massive understeer to the point where the weight transfer is not even enough to get you to a neutral car.... But a lot of cars like the porsche above will be tuned even for more balanced loading under acceleration which means a tendency to oversteer in general...
 
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scryan said:
Erm, so is my miata... Most cars are faster then a slapshot if you give them long enough...


:help:
Sports car SHOULD slow when you lift off the gas, a.) one does so to move to the brake b.) having deceleration on lifted throttle aids in car control durring cornering, in steady cornering pressing on the throttle should induce understeer and lifting should induce oversteer, because this is what you should be doing if you are actually driving.
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I don't think people who buy a Tesla care about cornering, understeer, or oversteer etc.

The Tesla customer base doesn't strike me as people who go out to GMR or Angeles/Tujunga on the weekends.

Most people equate Acceleration = Fast. The avg bro who likes to drag race his car from red light to red light and thinks his car is hella fast, is the same guy who slows down to 5mph just to make a right turn on a green light.
 
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LOUD NOISES. Sorry, opinionated on cars hehe this is why I stopped posting on car forums. Everyone there was wrong lol
 
The regenerative braking takes a little getting used to. Both in terms of liftoff deceleration and the sensitivity of the brakes under full braking. It's a very synthesized experience. Even stronger than combustion closed throttle partial vacuum braking.

On Porsche - It's easy for the rear end to wash out when the engine is hanging over the ass of the rear axle. 911 Classic and 964 were notorious for oversteer; more so the former than the latter. Only until the 993 came out did they rectify most of it and they've fine tuned it since then. Had some seat time in the GT4 and the 987 and 981 is a far superior platform. GT4's steering is far superior to the GT3's, but the engine (Carrera S unit) is lacking after enjoying the new 4.0.

A Tesla Model S is no different than an S6, S8, S65. A comfortable luxury daily with tons of passing power. Very few production cars currently have track day chops and an even smaller percentage are used on the track. No one buys one of these luxury cars to track it.

The Model S has Mercedes in it. The Roadster has Lotus in it.
 
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scryan said:
ITS MADE FROM A GOD DAMN LOTUS

LOUD NOISES. Sorry, opinionated on cars hehe this is why I stopped posting on car forums. Everyone there was wrong lol
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we could use more of you and less of (fill in subject matter to offend modulators)
 
Reclamation Project said:
The regenerative braking takes a little getting used to. Both in terms of liftoff deceleration and the sensitivity of the brakes under full braking. It's a very synthesized experience. Even stronger than combustion closed throttle partial vacuum braking.

On Porsche - It's easy for the rear end to wash out when the engine is hanging over the ass of the rear axle. 911 Classic and 964 were notorious for oversteer; more so the former than the latter. Only until the 993 came out did they rectify most of it and they've fine tuned it since then. Had some seat time in the GT4 and the 987 and 981 is a far superior platform. GT4's steering is far superior to the GT3's, but the engine (Carrera S unit) is lacking after enjoying the new 4.0.

A Tesla Model S is no different than an S6, S8, S65. A comfortable luxury daily with tons of passing power. Very few production cars currently have track day chops and an even smaller percentage are used on the track. No one buys one of these luxury cars to track it.

The Model S has Mercedes in it. The Roadster has Lotus in it.
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ha, ive certainly seen some out there.
 
Actually see a reasonable number of bimmers and Audis at the track... there was like a late 90s BMW something something (like E36 3 series?) that used to race a class or two up in our endurance series, and I wanna say like an A6 maybe even at the 25 hours?

Audi brought that one FWD TT that was raced the **** out to the 25hrs a few years ago, that thing seemed cool until one of their crew members seemed to accidentally pull the fire system on a pit stop and it was retired for "transmission failure" :lol:

You don't have to have rear engine crazyness or snap oversteer... oversteer doesn't have to be spinning, but you should be on the throttle, at that edge where lifting make you turn in more, and gassing it causes it to turn less, and you can steer while leaving the wheel straight keeping the slip angle the same at the front and rear.... Cause that is faster, and super fun.

Also, many gokarts have no brakes, lift to stop :)
 
How many Audi owners understeered into the gravel traps and tire barriers?

I was talking about the bigger ones - E63, S6, M5, and up. The M3/M4 is a great track/street car.
 
scryan said:
Actually see a reasonable number of bimmers and Audis at the track... there was like a late 90s BMW something something (like E36 3 series?) that used to race a class or two up in our endurance series, and I wanna say like an A6 maybe even at the 25 hours?

Audi brought that one FWD TT that was raced the **** out to the 25hrs a few years ago, that thing seemed cool until one of their crew members seemed to accidentally pull the fire system on a pit stop and it was retired for "transmission failure" :lol:

You don't have to have rear engine crazyness or snap oversteer... oversteer doesn't have to be spinning, but you should be on the throttle, at that edge where lifting make you turn in more, and gassing it causes it to turn less, and you can steer while leaving the wheel straight keeping the slip angle the same at the front and rear.... Cause that is faster, and super fun.

Also, many gokarts have no brakes, lift to stop :)
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seen plenty with no front brakes but no brakes at all? u sure about that
 
Jason Squirties said:
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A good burger relies on its natural juice.
Here a a 5.99 happy hour burger that I would pay 12.99 for.

I ask for it medium rare, not cut in quarters.

It is ****ing amazing. Ron , we should grab one.
 
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