DancingPanther
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Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella
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He’s not going to be fired. He’s going to get a promotion.
That was always going to be the plan with this organization.
DancingPanther
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President of hockey ops, senior advisor
mmm, im guessing more of joint work together with fletcher, where trotz calls the shots and fletch works the trades.
kyuss
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Would seem odd to give Trotz a significant management role when he has no experience and has done no planning, right before a massively important offseason for the Flyers. And right after Fletcher, Flahr, and Briere orchestrated and conducted a thorough interview process.
If that happens, it would reek of Dave Scott trying to save his own job by desperately latching on to the biggest name available.
If it's just some type of associate title, then whatever.
But the idea makes so little sense to me I'm going to assume NRD is either referring to something else or simply heard a bad rumor.
kyuss
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The bolded is so true, and what I think the next coach needs to address more than anything. Hak and Hex bleached this team into anonymity, and Fletch poured yogurt on the wet ashes of what the Flyers used to be.
This is what I've been saying. Torts is definitely not the best coach ever and not the best choice for this team, but he isn't a smoldering pile of crap either. He's gonna rub players the wrong way and bench guys which is gonna make people on here mad but he's not the worst option. This next coach isn't going to take this team to the promised land no matter who it is. Think of this as the Flyers Brett Brown, just someone to fill the void until the time is right. Hopefully they can turn over the roster quick enough to get through this ASAP because the next few years aren't going to be pretty regardless of who is behind the benchThing is Torts doesn't seem to be the kind of HC who leaves a place a smoldering ruin.
He can rub players the wrong way, but he is a good communicator, even if the message isn't always appreciated.
Atkinson, who started as a young offensive oriented forward with him, loves him.
“We knew the direction we were going, which wasn’t a good one,” Atkinson said of Tortorella's arrival in 2015. “We knew what to expect, but I also knew from talking to a guy like (former Lightning Hall-of-Famer) Marty St. Louis what to expect out of Torts. He just said, ‘Work your (butt) off and you’ll be rewarded.’ I’ve taken that to the bank and used those words and tried to make the most of it. He’s definitely been one of, if not the most important, person in this organization.”
"former captain Nick Foligno also convinced Tortorella to stay."
of course, not all players could handle him:
"Tortorella's fiery interactions with players led to clashes, including memorable spats on the bench with former centers Pierre-Luc Dubois and Alexander Wennberg, each of whom is no longer with the team. Other players more easily sifted Tortorella's message away from his choice of words or tone."
John Tortorella will not return as Columbus Blue Jackets' coach
Columbus Blue Jackets coach John Tortorella will not seek a new contact, allowing his current deal to expire this summer and move on after six years.www.dispatch.com
Those two playoffs were where Torts’s best coaching was on display. The Blue Jackets were outmatched on paper in terms of talent, but managed to play a cohesive, defensive-oriented game which shut down the opponents’ top scorers. It wasn’t always pretty hockey, but it was effective.
Over his six seasons, Torts showed an ability to change his schematic approach, while still maintaining his core principles of team-building. He demanded peak fitness from players, which he tested with a two mile run at the start of training camp.
Schematically, his early teams ended up being among the best in the league in goal scoring. He embraced positionless hockey for someone like Zach Werenski, who earned the green light to be a “rover” and join the offensive rush. When Artemi Panarin was here, he was not reined in; rather, Torts let him play his game, and then reaped the results. After Panarin and Sergei Bobrovsky left in 2019, the team converted to a more defensive-oriented approach.
Torts has earned a reputation as being hard on young players, but several young stars thrived under his tutelage here, including Zach Werenski, Pierre-Luc Dubois, Cam Atkinson, and Oliver Bjorkstrand. The former two were impact rookies from day one, and fit the gameplan perfectly.
There were plenty of bumps along the way, however. Friction with Ryan Johansen and Dubois led to those players being traded. He failed to develop former first round pick Sonny Milano and he oversaw the elite shot of Patrik Laine fail to produce goals for long stretches this season.
John Tortorella leaves a complicated legacy in Columbus
Torts and CBJ made a mutual parting on Sundaywww.jacketscannon.com
After the 2020-21 season, and after it was made public that Tortorella would not be returning to Columbus next season, the players were asked about their former coach, among other things, during their exit interviews. Since they wouldn’t be playing under him (most likely) anytime soon, there was no reason to pull any punches or sugar-coat their answers.
To a man, they said good things about Tortorella.
Dubois: “He’s a hard coach, I can take it. Nothing’s personal. I grew up with a dad who’s a coach and he told me if a coach challenges you, it’s never personal; he just wants what’s best for you. And that’s how I see ‘Torts’ and I have nothing but respect for him.
Korpisalo:
[When asked by my THW colleague Mark Scheig: How has Tortorella helped you?] “Bigtime. It’s six years with him. I was 21 years old when he came in. I was a rookie back then. Just how he handled everything here. I always respected him, and I think me growing as a player and more as a person with him, you know. What he expected of me every day. Every day I was coming to the rink, and he was being honest every time. It grew me as a person a lot, and just being thankful for him being always honest. I respect him a lot. Great season with him – I learned a lot, for sure.”
MDZ (who returned to Trots):
The thing with Torts, you know where you stand with him. He’s brutally honest. If you can take it, if you have thick skin, there’s no other coach you’d rather play for. When you play for coaches where you don’t know where you stand, it’s tough to have a conversation with (them). You’re not sure if they’re telling the truth or not with you. With him, you know where you stand every day, and that’s very hard to find. He wears his heart on his sleeve, too. He would do anything for his players.”
Tortorella: In the Words of His Players - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More
Former Blue Jackets coach John Tortorella, vilified by the media, beloved by his players.thehockeywriters.com
Hate to break it to you all but there's another way to read that tweet. Maybe one of the coaches is demanding a win now move for them to sign on. Say goodbye to that top 5 pick.
BernieParent
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And that pic was from yesterday.
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
Frost's offseason training regimen in anticipation of Tortorella being hired.
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PR...the Media, Authentics, and Casuals will eat it up and the Flyers brass will all pat themselves on the back and strut around like hot shit.
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Buyout window begins June 15, so my best guess is that it's a Lindblom and/or JVR buyout he's referring to.
Although, possibly a JVR trade, or a trade for Gaudreau's rights.
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“Works” is a very strong word to use there
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I somehow manage to deal with stupid questions like this one every single day.
I think he was married to Kathrine Tappen and an ex Ranger d man
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Tortorella has history with Atkinson so I don't see a move as necessary with one of His veterans already here. I think he'd honestly love cooter and laughton.
I'm explicitly against trotz even though he is the best choice available if it means he gets a managerial say. We need someone willing to coach the guys who we have.
I think there's a significant difference between throwing say spezza a deal at the minimum because Montgomery likes him versus paying our 3c 7 mil to placate av
I'm explicitly against trotz even though he is the best choice available if it means he gets a managerial say. We need someone willing to coach the guys who we have.
I think there's a significant difference between throwing say spezza a deal at the minimum because Montgomery likes him versus paying our 3c 7 mil to placate av
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Mindless speculation: Fletcher “promoted,” Briere steps in as GM, coach announced. Follow-up reports stress how Briere was very involved in the interview process, Briere had the final say on the coach, and that Fletcher approached Briere at the end of the season about stepping in as GM.
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This whole thing has a giant corporate feel to it; an unnecessarily long process with every known coaching candidate getting an interview even though there are clear leaders in the club house. The top two candidates, Trotz and Torts, probably had the best scores on some generic season ticket holder survey: ie 56% of season ticket holders agree that they have a positive view of Barry Trotz while 33% strongly agree. Once the preferred candidate is picked, they start throwing bs titles and perks his way to close the deal; here Barry you can have the assistant special advisor to the GM title and some restricted Comcast stock. It’s very much like how those huge corporations higher executives.
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