Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella

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There are a lot of posters here who, if Bruins fans, would have complained about Boston interviewing Bruce Cassidy, let alone hiring him.

Speaking of Cassidy, he seems so distraught over his Bruins firing that I wonder if he'll take a year off. Or, at least choose a Western Conference team.
 
So, Boston loses in the playoffs.

A few days later they fire the coach.

A few days after that, rumours surface that they may not re-sign Pastrnak.

Then they basically announce a rebuild and that they're looking for a coach who will be great with young players.



The Flyers, meanwhile, as still cleaning up their own puddle of drool six months after firing their coach, missing the playoffs, and having no clear direction.

Is anyone awake in the organization??
I just listened to yesterday's 32 Thoughts while at the gym, and Friedman says Boston isn't rebuilding. They just wanted to change the voice. They're expected to be players in the UFA market.

That's in line with my initial reaction, which was that Neely and Sweeney wouldn't go full rebuild, especially with Sweeney being on a bit of a hot seat himself, and that the Boston fanbase would have a fit if they did.
 
I don't disagree with the "they'll play for another coach" comment. I think you shouldn't draft anyone based mostly on the coach's preference (in hockey, at least) -

but I think the coach's opinion of players in the upcoming draft is a decent gauge for the org. Like, is their natural inclination for personnel in-line with the org's philosophy? Do they go for small, speedy wingers? Big, lumbering centers? High emphasis on tall, puck-moving D? Do they believe in drafting sandpaper high?

Just stuff like that.
The head coach doesn’t do anything for the draft other than be there.
 
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I just listened to yesterday's 32 Thoughts while at the gym, and Friedman says Boston isn't rebuilding. They just wanted to change the voice. They're expected to be players in the UFA market.

That's in line with my initial reaction, which was that Neely and Sweeney wouldn't go full rebuild, especially with Sweeney being on a bit of a hot seat himself, and that the Boston fanbase would have a fit if they did.

Interesting. I wonder if all of the question marks more or less force management to consider a rebuild instead?

If Pasta and Bergeron are gone, and Marchand and McAvoy miss significant time early in the season, maybe the choice is made for them?


In fact, Sweeney did not ask Bergeron whether Cassidy’s dismissal influenced his decision about 2022-23. The Bruins are giving Bergeron time and space to arrive at an independent conclusion with input from his family.

So far, offseason events have been anything but encouraging.

Cassidy, who gave Bergeron freedom to oversee the dressing room and play more on the attack, is gone. Brad Marchand, Bergeron’s tightest friend and perpetual left wing, will not be ready at the start of 2022-23 following surgery on both hips. Same goes for Charlie McAvoy (shoulder), the 24-year-old who will one day claim the “C” that resides on Bergeron’s jersey. Matt Grzelcyk (shoulder) will also be unavailable when the season opens — that is, if he’s not traded. The Bruins will have to move swiftly on re-signing David Pastrnak or trading the right wing. The second Stanley Cup Bergeron wants is unlikely to be his as a Bruin.
 
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The head coach doesn’t do anything for the draft other than be there.

I know - let me clarify what I'm saying:

In an interview setting, I think it's profitable to have a question or two asking the HC candidates what they personally would do for the upcoming draft. Gives an idea of what they would do if they could select their own personnel.
 
Bruce Cassidy had a Zoom media session today.

He said that he "absolutely" wants to coach next season, and that he's already talked to "a number of teams."

Twitter thread here:

Seravalli reported this AM that Cassidy is believed to be on the Flyers' list.
 
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Tortorella claiming credit for TB is kind of f***ing insane
Yeah, we want that egomaniac overseeing the development of our young players. Pass.

Weren't we the only team interested in him to begin with?

Aren't we the only team strongly tied to Tortorella?
Who else would be stupid enough? Only the worst GM in the league, our Chuckles.
 
The Flyers oppose scoring in a sport where you must score to win.

I would rather not bring back Hitchcock hockey where he would shell for however many minutes if the Flyers scored first. everyone knows but the Flyers where the league is headed.
But I could see the Flyers stay the course on how they want to play while getting lapped by the rest of the league
 
Weren't we the only team interested in him to begin with?

Aren't we the only team strongly tied to Tortorella?
It may be that the Flyers did not do their due diligence with the hiring of AV. Today it sure looks as if they absolutely wanted a "name" coach and when Q said no, the PTB freaked out and grabbed Vigneault without checking him very hard.
This time around, they're not doing a knee jerk reaction. From the list of potential candidates that has been rumored, there are a couple that could be good hires. I think the n=message has come down from on high, "Don't **** this up again.
 
The Flyers don’t have nearly the horses to play run ‘n’ gun hockey.

I don’t even understand the thought process: It’s like people think players are no more than fungible cogs in a programmable machine. Program the machine to “offense,” & it will produce offense. That simple.

That’s like hiring Nolan Richardson to coach a bunch of fat kids & expecting the team to successfully execute the Arkansas “40 minutes of hell.”
 
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The Flyers don’t have nearly the horses to play run ‘n’ gun hockey.

I don’t even understand the thought process: It’s like people think players are no more than fungible cogs in a programmable machine. Program the machine to “offense,” & it will produce offense. That simple.

That’s like hiring Nolan Richardson to coach a bunch of fat kids & expecting the team to successfully execute the Arkansas “40 minutes of hell.”

They don't have the horses because they are badly managed and compound that problem with bad development.
 
The Flyers don’t have nearly the horses to play run ‘n’ gun hockey.

I don’t even understand the thought process: It’s like people think players are no more than fungible cogs in a programmable machine. Program the machine to “offense,” & it will produce offense. That simple.

That’s like hiring Nolan Richardson to coach a bunch of fat kids & expecting the team to successfully execute the Arkansas “40 minutes of hell.”

It’s almost like everyone is clamoring for them to value skill and transition rather than fill the roster out with slugs like Risto, Thompson, and MacEwan…
 
For people that want Torts, what part of his coaching style is going to bring out the offense for this team? A team that was 2nd to last in GF in the regular season (only 4 more goals scored than the Yotes). Even Hak's "barely any real star power Kraken" offense put up 5 more goals than the Flyers this year.

Torts for 20-21 Lumbus had the 3rd worst GF in the league and 5th worst PP.
Torts for 19-20 Lumbus had the 3rd worst GF in the league and 5th worst PP.
Torts for 18-19 Lumbus had the 12nd best GF in the league, but 4th worst PP. Keep in mind, Panarin was on this team, and this is the best they could do.
Torts for 17-18 Lumbus was 16th for GF in the league and the 7th worst PP. Keep in mind, Panarin was on this team, and this is the best they could do.

Flyers are currently a team with extreme scoring issues, especially on the PP, and there are people that want a coach that will probably be the same f***ing results as this past year? And when people say he will give the players structure, what f***ing structure is that? I really want to know.

Realistically with Torts and his known attributes, the Flyers will realistically be picking top 10 again, if not top 5, and at the absolute best, they will be middling and get a poor middle of the 1st draft pick. While it's a deep draft, being in the middle yet being no where near the playoffs is f***ing awful. This is what Torts with the current Flyers will be. Ever boring and never winning Flyers hockey.
 
For people that want Torts, what part of his coaching style is going to bring out the offense for this team? A team that was 2nd to last in GF in the regular season (only 4 more goals scored than the Yotes). Even Hak's "barely any real star power Kraken" offense put up 5 more goals than the Flyers this year.

Torts for 20-21 Lumbus had the 3rd worst GF in the league and 5th worst PP.
Torts for 19-20 Lumbus had the 3rd worst GF in the league and 5th worst PP.
Torts for 18-19 Lumbus had the 12nd best GF in the league, but 4th worst PP.
Torts for 17-18 Lumbus was 16th for GF in the league and the 7th worst PP.

Flyers are currently a team with extreme scoring issues, especially on the PP, and there are people that want a coach that will probably be the same f***ing results as this past year? And when people say he will give the players structure, what f***ing structure is that? I really want to know.

Realistically with Torts and his known attributes, the Flyers will realistically be picking top 10 again, if not top 5, and at the absolute best, they will be middling and get a poor middle of the 1st draft pick. While it's a deep draft, being in the middle yet being no where near the playoffs is f***ing awful. This is what Torts with the current Flyers will be. Ever boring and never winning Flyers hockey.

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I just saw that Luke Richardson's name has come up.
I wish the process was more in the open I'd love to hear what all these guys takes are on where the organization is at
 
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