Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella

[Curufinwe]

"I think there's some problems within the locker room that we have to fix"

"...one of my big responsibilities I think, is to get some personality back with the team, and have it a tough place to play, a tough team to play against"

"Are we gonna solve all our problems with scoring goals and all this.... w-w-we're gonna try"

(Regarding Seeler getting respect from the Flyers organization for fighting Deslauriers)
"Even in the process of interviewing, that story's been brought up, and uh gets high marks"

"That Nick Seeler story was brought up to me a couple of times when I've been in Philly"

 

[Beef Invictus]

I also don't think they understand exactly the kind of HC they're getting with Torts.
When Clarke hears Torts talking about playing "hard," he's thinking slobber knocker hits. Old fashioned Flyer hockey. Aggressive, dirty play, pushing the limits of the refs' patience.

What Torts seems to actually mean by playing hard is tenacious, non-stop pressure over 200 feet, aggressive forechecking by top 9 forwards and everyone back checks. But his teams don't take stupid penalties (good thing NAK is gone) or fight. And he has had no problem with players like Atkinson, who certainly isn't "physical." But he doesn't have much use for 4th line goons.

And I think Beef misunderstands as well, Torts is not about "safe" hockey, he's about disciplined hockey, he lets his defensemen free lance, but expects his forwards to read it and cycle back, he plays small skilled offensive players but expects them to skate hard on the back check (no cherry picking) and at least get their stick into passing lanes.

Panarin isn't exactly the poster child for big, physical, boring forwards, and he had no problem playing for Torts.

You're in for a surprise.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I have been trained in the arts of angst and anger by my brother, @Captain Dave Poulin. I have enough angst and anger to go around. My angst and anger levels haven't even begun to peak.

I haven’t seen that freak for a while either, he married one of those hens - and ran off maybe.

 

[Curufinwe]

Torts forced Fletcher to sign Seeler, even though Torts wasn't the coach yet

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Torts forced Fletcher to sign Seeler, even though Torts wasn't the coach yet

You know that one is coming at some point.

 

[snoop88]

The flyers Reddit is fully on board with “Torts”. Accountability szn.

Those poor naive youths. I also got heavy downvotes for a very soft jab at Hayes. They really like Hayes for some reason.

 

[Curufinwe]

 

[Starat327]

Tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme.

Same shit happened with AV until he got canned and all the blame was put on him. It's the same thing that will happen when Fletcher is fired and the new guy comes in. It happened with Hak too.

It's lazy and played out at this point.

ITs going to be funny to see (well, i wont see, but you know what i mean)

"Fletchyer just got the guys AV wanted, he couldnt do anything!"

Fletcher gets fired

"Torts just has to work with the team he ineherited. Fletcher put them all there, its his fault the team stinks! We havent seen enough games of Torts yet to determine if hes a bad coach!"


I pity you people who cant put him on ignore.
I feel nothing for you people who can, but choose not to.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I loled

 

[Beef Invictus]

Tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme.

Same shit happened with AV until he got canned and all the blame was put on him. It's the same thing that will happen when Fletcher is fired and the new guy comes in. It happened with Hak too.

It's lazy and played out at this point.

It seems like Tortorella is serving as an off-ramp from the Fletcher Hype Highway

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It seems like Tortorella is serving as an off-ramp from the Fletcher Hype Highway

Weird how that happens.

 

[deadhead]

"I think there's some problems within the locker room that we have to fix"

"...one of my big responsibilities I think, is to get some personality back with the team, and have it a tough place to play, a tough team to play against"

"Are we gonna solve all our problems with scoring goals and all this.... w-w-we're gonna try"

(Regarding Seeler getting respect from the Flyers organization for fighting Deslauriers)
"Even in the process of interviewing, that story's been brought up, and uh gets high marks"

"That Nick Seeler story was brought up to me a couple of times when I've been in Philly"

Was brought up to him, not something he owns.
In other words, it may be what the PTB values, but that don't mean it's going to matter to Torts when he makes his roster decisions.
Because Tort's players don't fight, don't get goaded into fights, don't take dirty penalties to show they're tough.

Sorta of the antithesis to the PTB's definition of "hard to play against."

 

[Beef Invictus]

Weird how that happens.

It could also be that the Tortorella hype is necessary to maintain the Fletcher hype.

 

[deadhead]

Most of the Torts "hype" has come from third parties, reporters and fans out of CBJ, his former players.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Was brought up to him, not something he owns.
In other words, it may be what the PTB values, but that don't mean it's going to matter to Torts when he makes his roster decisions.
Because Tort's players don't fight, don't get goaded into fights, don't take dirty penalties to show they're tough.

Sorta of the antithesis to the PTB's definition of "hard to play against."

Which is why I've been saying from Day 1 that there is seemingly a disconnect between management vision and coach from the get -go. The kind of player management adored and brings in nonstop is not the kind of player Tortorella tends to enjoy.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Most of the Torts "hype" has come from third parties, reporters and fans out of CBJ, his former players.

So... propaganda.

 

[flyersnorth]

I loled

Fantastic episode.

 

[Rebels57]

Tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme.

Same shit happened with AV until he got canned and all the blame was put on him. It's the same thing that will happen when Fletcher is fired and the new guy comes in. It happened with Hak too.

It's lazy and played out at this point.

At this point? Or was that point 5 years ago?

 

[Rebels57]

"I think there's some problems within the locker room that we have to fix"

"...one of my big responsibilities I think, is to get some personality back with the team, and have it a tough place to play, a tough team to play against"

"Are we gonna solve all our problems with scoring goals and all this.... w-w-we're gonna try"

(Regarding Seeler getting respect from the Flyers organization for fighting Deslauriers)
"Even in the process of interviewing, that story's been brought up, and uh gets high marks"

"That Nick Seeler story was brought up to me a couple of times when I've been in Philly"

I cannot f***ing believe how far we've fallen

 

[deadhead]

Which is why I've been saying from Day 1 that there is seemingly a disconnect between management vision and coach from the get -go. The kind of player management adored and brings in nonstop is not the kind of player Tortorella tends to enjoy.

Well, then we agree.

Torts may accidentally be exactly what this franchise needs, someone who can bring accountability and discipline from a 21st century perspective, not the 1970s perspective.
And he may just bring that same accountability to the FO.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well, then we agree.

Torts may accidentally be exactly what this franchise needs, someone who can bring accountability and discipline from a 21st century perspective, not the 1970s perspective.
And he may just bring that same accountability to the FO.

He will bring 2008 style accountability. Him admitting modern offense is beyond him is a massive red flag. And just letting guys do whatever isn't exactly the ideal option. Structure is required, and exists, and if he doesn't see that in transition and how the good teams run their cycles then he should be retiring.

He isn't going to bring accountability to his egomaniacal bosses. They don't answer to him and if he ever backtalked them he'd be fired instantly.

 

[Magua]

“21st century perspective.” What a bar to clear in 2022.

I’m actually enjoying this narrative that Tortorella is not only the best player developer in the league, but he’s also one of the most cutting edge coaches in the game.

 

[Beef Invictus]

“21st century perspective.” What a bar to clear in 2022.

I’m actually enjoying this narrative that Tortorella is not only the best player developer in the league, but he’s also one of the most modern coaches in the game.

The dead puck era was in the 21st century.

He's so modern that when Columbus started trying for a skilled roster he told them he wasn't a fit and tried to leave, and up until very recently was publicly baffled by all this emphasis on scoring. In fact, I doubt he's had any huge epiphanies in the last week or two. The league is emerging from the grinding hit era and shedding the last vestiges of the DPE to enter a new offensive era and Tortorella is shaking his fist at it.

"Modern"

 

[SnS]

Is anyone still a flyers fan?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Is anyone still a flyers fan?

Only because of you guys and fan probably isn’t the right word anymore.