Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella

[freakydallas13]

Sanheim just chalking off days until he is a free agent at this point.

 

[Embiid]

he'll be traded


if Torts calls out Clarke and the boys, this signing could be a bless in disguise.

need something positive to hope for

Clarke will just have a baby diaper personal war with him in public.....his petty MO despite his previous mea culpas. Just can't help himself. At least two assholes going at it will be entertaining I guess. Dysfunctional family drama is always fun...

 

[Rebels57]

LOL - sorry but wtf? I get the constant griping, but is this what this entitled board is now? A professional hockey player, spending his life in the sport, would not know what a good coach is over a fan who is nowhere near either of them - on a personal, or professional level?

New lows, I'm afraid.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

Year 1 - Scott Arniel
Year 2 - 5 : Todd Richards
Year 6 - 9 : Tortorella
Year 10 : AV then Yeo

Like I said, he doesn't know what a good coach is. The closest he has come is Tortorella, and his flaws are well-documented.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Spare us your persecution fetish. God forbid anyone say anything negative about the benevolent dictatorship that is the Philadelphia Flyers.

More like God forbid anyone say anything positive.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Curufinwe]

I will ask this, if push comes to shove, who do you think he would rather play, Tippett or Allison? Because Allison would be the correct choice regardless of coach. Tippett should stay in the AHL.

Earth to crazy guy - Tippett's not going on waivers.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Atkinson right now: "I know I have a job with him, I have to keep pushing forward. f*** everyone else."

Shoot more Cam!!

 

[Appleyard]

Lmfao. Capuano? Seriously? In 2022? With his track record etc.

 

[Rebels57]

Lmfao. Capuano? Seriously? In 2022? With his track record etc.

They are so incredibly f***ing lost. It's astonishing. Fat Al Pacino even being considered a red flag as large as the state of Minnesota.

 

[Embiid]

DeBoer was probably Cuck's guy

DA BORE AND DeBoer

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

I just can’t wait to hear about about badly the numbers in house and on TV are doing.

They couldn’t have hired a worse coach if they were worried about fan interest.


EDIT: Actually they could have, because I’m an idiot and forgot they interviewed about 3 or 4 worse options. My apologies.

 

[dragonoffrost]

So you think an out-of-shape 31-year-old Dubinsky who scored 6 goals & 10 assists in 62 games deserved more ice time than:

Rookie 19 yr old 3rd overall pick Pierre Dubois, who scored 20 goals & 28 assists in 82 games,

and

Sophomore 22 yr old 14th overall pick Wennberg who had 35 points in 66 games.


Think about the position you are taking, man.

And two seasons later those kids are gone because the toxicity from Torts. Don't you get it today's athletes won't respond long term for Torts. Culture is needed to be thought about and I can't believe me who grew up during the hey day of the Bullies and Iron Mike is realizing that todays athletes don't respond to a coach that is as demeaning as Torts before others on this board.

 

[Rebels57]

I just can’t wait to hear about about badly the numbers in house and on TV are doing.

They couldn’t have hired a worse coach if they were worried about fan interest.

Cheering against them this season is going to be a lot of fun. It's a lot easier now that Giroux is gone. I just feel bad for Carter. Wish he could find his way out of there.

 

[deadhead]

Torts gave Dubinsky top 6 minutes his first two seasons coaching in CBJ.

At 31 he moved him to a lesser role as two young centers emerged, and Dubinsky was breaking down physically (and partially his own fault due to his own admission of less than stellar conditioning).

If Hayes whines about Torts demoting him in favor of Frost in a year, if the later outplays him, who's going to call out Torts for that?

As far as the other whiner, he was a scrub who got a chance in Torts first season, failed to produce his second season and was traded.

Note players like Dubois, who crossed swords with Torts, has nothing but praise for Torts - and has said Torts wasn't the reason he demanded a trade.

It's simple with Torts, the whiners, the thin skinned and those who won't work hard will be gone in a season.
The young mobile D will love the freedom he gives them to make plays in the O-zone.
The forwards will have to play a two way game.

The rest will embrace him b/c he communicates (breath of fresh air after Hakstol and AV), from all reports actually cares about his players as people, and to cap it off, is a serious dog lover who supports organizations that place stray dogs.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Lmfao. Capuano? Seriously? In 2022? With his track record etc.

It was said in a different thread that Fred Flintstone would actually fit in well with the Flyers' dinosaur theme.

 

[Hanover Fist]

And to think they needed a consulting firm to come to this conclusion

 

[dragonoffrost]

Torts gave Dubinsky top 6 minutes his first two seasons coaching in CBJ.

At 31 he moved him to a lesser role as two young centers emerged, and Dubinsky was breaking down physically (and partially his own fault due to his own admission of less than stellar conditioning).

If Hayes whines about Torts demoting him in favor of Frost in a year, if the later outplays him, who's going to call out Torts for that?

As far as the other whiner, he was a scrub who got a chance in Torts first season, failed to produce his second season and was traded.

Note players like Dubois, who crossed swords with Torts, has nothing but praise for Torts - and has said Torts wasn't the reason he demanded a trade.

It's simple with Torts, the whiners, the thin skinned and those who won't work hard will be gone in a season.
The young mobile D will love the freedom he gives them to make plays in the O-zone.
The forwards will have to play a two way game.

The rest will embrace him b/c he communicates (breath of fresh air after Hakstol and AV), from all reports actually cares about his players as people, and to cap it off, is a serious dog lover who supports organizations that place stray dogs.

He supports animals and the military... Great things. But if he kills Harts mentality we are f***ed and that is so a Torts thing to do.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

And two seasons later those kids are gone because the toxicity from Torts. Don't you get it today's athletes won't respond long term for Torts. Culture is needed to be thought about and I can't believe me who grew up during the hey day of the Bullies and Iron Mike is realizing that todays athletes don't respond to a coach that is as demeaning as Torts before others on this board.

They aren’t gone because of “toxicity from Torts.” That’s just you making something up.
Wennberg got bought out because the GM overpaid him & he wasn’t living up to his contract.
Dubois has said Torts wasn’t the reason he requested a trade. He just didn’t want to play in Columbus long-term.

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

It's simple with Torts, the whiners, the thin skinned and those who won't work hard will be gone in a season.
The young mobile D will love the freedom he gives them to make plays in the O-zone.
The forwards will have to play a two way game.

The rest will embrace him b/c he communicates (breath of fresh air after Hakstol and AV), from all reports actually cares about his players as people, and to cap it off, is a serious dog lover who supports organizations that place stray dogs.

Ok, so the Flyers will continue their neanderthal mentality.

Some people don't handle criticism well. And it's not because they're "whiners" or "malcontents" . Everyone has a different mental makeup. Not everyone can handle 1970s fire and brimstone coaching.

Just another piece of evidence this organization hasn't moved forward in the past 40 years.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lmfao. Capuano? Seriously? In 2022? With his track record etc.

He coached the Islanders. Fletcher idolizes the Islanders.

 

[GKJ]

Am I correct in that Vigneault was fired because Scott stepped in and did it? At the PC announcing the firing, Fletcher didn't seem to be on board with the move. Now it has been reported that Torts was not the guy that Fletcher wanted for the job. If he's being over ridden on the hiring and firing of HCs, he has no power in the organization and should ask for a buy out.
At this point and time, it is critical that the coach and GM be on the same page on everything especially the analysis of the roster. There are going to be some changes made with it. Don't want to make the wrong moves with who goes and who stays.
Not so long ago the Flyers young guys were highly thought of. They haven't met expectations. Maybe they aren't that good but maybe it was development and usage that held some of them back. Perhaps Torts can get more out of them than AV did. Heck AV never even saw some of them play on tape or in front of him. As we saw with Cates and Attard when they came up and settled in, there is some talent there with them and others.

There were reports that he was not prepared to fire AV, yes, but he was starting to figure out who to bring in in the event that he would. You can tell because they were scrambling just to put a bench together. Logistically, it was stupid to fire AV when they did they had just had like a 5-day break or something and were in the middle of a back to back involving the 2 teams who are currently in the final.

 

[deadhead]

And two seasons later those kids are gone because the toxicity from Torts. Don't you get it today's athletes won't respond long term for Torts. Culture is needed to be thought about and I can't believe me who grew up during the hey day of the Bullies and Iron Mike is realizing that todays athletes don't respond to a coach that is as demeaning as Torts before others on this board.

How did CBJ make the playoffs 4 years running in Torts' 2nd to 5th seasons?

Panarin didn't leave b/c of Torts, he left b/c he wanted NYC and $12M a year to play (on and off the ice) there.
Dubois said his trade demands were not due to Torts (probably due to being lowballed by the GM).
Saad wasn't traded b/c f Torts, but b/c they could obtain 2 cost controlled seasons of Panarin.

The only player "run out of town" by Torts was Johansen his first season, traded for Seth Jones. Johansen proceeded to have a career marked by inconsistency in Nashville, probably what got him into Torts' doghouse in the first place.

Torts' "toxicity" is greatly exaggerated. Whereas the Ranger fans warned us about AV, the CBJ fans seemed to love Torts.

Yes, he'll probably rub a couple players the wrong way, but odds are those players will be traded and go on to have mediocre careers elsewhere, b/c what will get them in his doghouse is some combination of inconsistent motor, lack of conditioning or unwillingness/inability to play a two way game.

He's more likely to rub the PTB the wrong way, b/c he'll call out their bullshit, and if he becomes a fan favorite with his straight shooting, and turns the team around, will threaten the power of some of the old circle.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Torts gave Dubinsky top 6 minutes his first two seasons coaching in CBJ.

At 31 he moved him to a lesser role as two young centers emerged, and Dubinsky was breaking down physically (and partially his own fault due to his own admission of less than stellar conditioning).

If Hayes whines about Torts demoting him in favor of Frost in a year, if the later outplays him, who's going to call out Torts for that?

As far as the other whiner, he was a scrub who got a chance in Torts first season, failed to produce his second season and was traded.

Note players like Dubois, who crossed swords with Torts, has nothing but praise for Torts - and has said Torts wasn't the reason he demanded a trade.

It's simple with Torts, the whiners, the thin skinned and those who won't work hard will be gone in a season.
The young mobile D will love the freedom he gives them to make plays in the O-zone.
The forwards will have to play a two way game.

The rest will embrace him b/c he communicates (breath of fresh air after Hakstol and AV), from all reports actually cares about his players as people, and to cap it off, is a serious dog lover who supports organizations that place stray dogs.

Oh, is that why Dubinsky got demoted? Torts recognized his poor play?

So is that the same as Hartnells situation where he was scoring but got demoted, and Torts blamed it on his poor positioning, only to be proven wrong?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Pet Charles]

I don’t think it’s fair to criticize fans for being skeptical that the hiring of a new head coach means a significant short-term turnaround. The organization is more than one or two positive events from becoming a serious contender, and it goes much deeper than the head coaching position.

I think it will be hard for them to repeat their futility from last season, but the organization still has the same roster construction/front office philosophy problems that I feel limit their ceiling. It will take phenomenal leaps forward from several of their young guys to be really competitive. I could see them doing something to create room for a Giroux or Gaudreau, but they don’t have the cap space or roster flexibility to make changes from outside the organization. I’ll forever be scarred by the Ristolainen series of transactions when thinking positively of Fletcher’s skills, so maybe I’m too biased to see the forest for the trees.