Online Series: The Mandalorian III- NO Politics-Mysterious disappearance of Cara Dune
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His ship got blown up in season 2. He got the naboo fighter in Book of Boba Fett.
Jussi
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So you completely ignored the talk of a recap video and recap playlist earlier in the thread?
Bounces R Way
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Finally got around to watching the first episode last night. Didn't love it honestly, didn't hate it either, but a firm shrug of the shoulders/10.
(spoilers)Just too much jumping around and I don't find any of the storylines very interesting. Hope they wrap up the Mando bathing in the minewaters or whatever of Mandalore for redemption quickly. I think the only one who cares about that at all is Mando himself. They also spent a lot of time on IG-11 for what I can tell little to no reason. Also Bo-Katan just doesn't GAF anymore? Just gives up on the mission that has defined her for most of her adult life? I dunno, seems weak.
The space battle at least was awesome though. If the pirate king was being setup to be the main villain of the season, well that seems like a significant step down from Moff Gideon to me but hopefully that's not the case and it'll be more a shorter arc later.
(spoilers)Just too much jumping around and I don't find any of the storylines very interesting. Hope they wrap up the Mando bathing in the minewaters or whatever of Mandalore for redemption quickly. I think the only one who cares about that at all is Mando himself. They also spent a lot of time on IG-11 for what I can tell little to no reason. Also Bo-Katan just doesn't GAF anymore? Just gives up on the mission that has defined her for most of her adult life? I dunno, seems weak.
The space battle at least was awesome though. If the pirate king was being setup to be the main villain of the season, well that seems like a significant step down from Moff Gideon to me but hopefully that's not the case and it'll be more a shorter arc later.
Jussi
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I wish they'd introduced him in Andor browsing in Luthen's shop.
Captain Controversy
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Yeah that would have been cool.
I'm pretty sure he had a cameo in season 3 of Mando.
That was basically a live action Clone Wars episode and I am 100% here for it.
Very Stable Genius
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Deport Ogie
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Bo-Katan: I told you jerks, leave me the **** alone!
Grogu: *cute noises*
Bo-Katan: Din's in trouble?
Bo-Katan:
Grogu: *cute noises*
Bo-Katan: Din's in trouble?
Bo-Katan:
Jussi
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Well that episode matched the "hype". Loved it. Bo Katan definitely knows how to use the Dark Saber.
Hivemind
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First time I've felt annoyed by the use of the volume on this show. As the ventured into and out of the caves repeatedly it felt like I was playing an older video game, where you load between different screens as you dungeon dive.
"Killing each other for reasons too confusing to explain" is the perfect encapsulation of why the, well, MandaLORE is so silly and why I wish this show wasn't spending so much time playing with it.
Part of the reason Andor was so good is that it didn't feel the need to shove the Easter Eggs in your face. It kept them in the background where nerds like us could appreciate them as subtle value adds, but not obnoxious "YOU REMEMBER THIS" moments like so many other Star Wars properties (including even Rogue One) have done.
Beyond that, it would make no narrative sense to have Thrawn in Luthen's shop. While you have his appreciation of cultures and artifacts, if Thrawn was that close to a vital Rebellion leader and wasn't able to sniff them out, it would really undercut Thrawn's character.
"Killing each other for reasons too confusing to explain" is the perfect encapsulation of why the, well, MandaLORE is so silly and why I wish this show wasn't spending so much time playing with it.
Thank goodness they did not. That would have been terrible.
Part of the reason Andor was so good is that it didn't feel the need to shove the Easter Eggs in your face. It kept them in the background where nerds like us could appreciate them as subtle value adds, but not obnoxious "YOU REMEMBER THIS" moments like so many other Star Wars properties (including even Rogue One) have done.
Beyond that, it would make no narrative sense to have Thrawn in Luthen's shop. While you have his appreciation of cultures and artifacts, if Thrawn was that close to a vital Rebellion leader and wasn't able to sniff them out, it would really undercut Thrawn's character.
Jussi
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So you didn't watch Clone Wars and Rebels? If you did, you might as well stop watching, because there's going to be and more Mandalore centric stuff coming in this from now on.
Hivemind
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I did. And the (multiple) Mandalore arcs were garbage in both series. And even watching them doesn't make it much more straight-forward, as remarked by Bo Katan herself. You have a planet that was renowned for its warrior culture that was... well, pacifist when it was first shown on Clone Wars. Then various coups, multiple factions & splinter groups, political overhauls, a takeover by a former Sith turned gangster, a random artifact that is introduced halfway thru that has ever changing rules regarding how much authority it wields and how its passed on, leftover versions of those previous factions that are re-introduced, wildly shifting interpretations of armor and customs between each show, and new elements constantly being retconned into the canon of Mandalore as each different creator takes their own shot at it (Beskar, the "don't remove your helmet" bit, and the Darksaber being won only in combat are all things introduced in the Mandalorian that directly conflict with previous elements in Clone Wars & Rebels). And all this is just rooted in one original trilogy bounty hunter that looked cool (who was then butchered with his own unnecessary back story being shoe horned into episode 2 and the creation of the clones). Mandalore is a gigantic mess of a bunch of different writers, plots, and characters that don't really work together for any unified theme or message.
Indeed.
Am I the only one that thinks something romantic will happen between Din and Bo-Katan?
Grogu continues to show his strength with the force! I was hoping he would pick up the darksabre in the cave but alas he left to get Bo-Katan.
RobBrown4PM
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Sackhoff, Pascal, and every other actor this season thus far look like they're script reading.
In contrast, holy shit the SFX and puppetry is bananas amazing this season. Both have ways been great, but this season is something else. The work done on SCP-162 (no idea what its name is) and the eye/robot monster was phenomenal. Crisp, clean, and of superb quality.
Edit: They've upgraded the puppet for Grogu, or some of the CGI to supplement the physical working of it. It's better than ever. Same goes for the audio for it. The baby cooing and gurgling is so real and so cute. Both sounds are like crack for parents, they never get old.
In contrast, holy shit the SFX and puppetry is bananas amazing this season. Both have ways been great, but this season is something else. The work done on SCP-162 (no idea what its name is) and the eye/robot monster was phenomenal. Crisp, clean, and of superb quality.
Edit: They've upgraded the puppet for Grogu, or some of the CGI to supplement the physical working of it. It's better than ever. Same goes for the audio for it. The baby cooing and gurgling is so real and so cute. Both sounds are like crack for parents, they never get old.
Jussi
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If I've understood correctly, Phill Tippett Studio is in charge of those.
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert and have all the answers here, but to me you kind've mentioned the answers in your own post. My interpretation of it is that different factions have different beliefs. The group in power on Mandalore in TCW was pacifist but the original Mandalorians were obviously not. That's why you had Deathwatch wanting to take over. Bo Katan's group does not care about showing their faces but does believe the dark saber must be won in combat. Mando's group does not seem to care about how the dark saber is won but has more "traditional beliefs" with not showing their faces like the original Mandalorians didn't to my knowledge (been so long since my last KOTOR playthrough). So, to me, it's just different groups having different beliefs. Which the show has been touching on a lot recently. I'm sure more will be explained. Would also be great if someone with more knowledge of the lore could chime in here.
Deport Ogie
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Is it curious that Din's "cult" goes as Children of the Watch and it has a Vizsla in it, so it kind of follows that it's related to or begotten from Death Watch right? Bo-Katan is so quick to dismiss it and yet wasn't she IN Death Watch for awhile? Maybe that's why, it's like the gang she hung out with in middle school that she's now embarassed by.
Do you think Din is ever tempted, any time The Armorer spouts about "Mandalorian no more", to just pull out the Dark Saber and be like "Look blacksmith, I literally have the ****ing Dark Saber. **** off with your no more."
Hivemind
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There isn't really any consistent explanation though. It's a miss-match of different writers, retcons, and adjustments that they're attempting to wrangle together.
For instance - Mando's group is the Children of the Watch - aka the continuation of Deathwatch. They should have largely the same beliefs as Deathwatch, but they don't. Deathwatch can remove their helmets, for instance.
Bo Katan's group "believes the dark saber must be won in combat" but Bo Katan herself willingly accepts the Dark Saber from Sabine in Rebels.
The reality is that different writers are simply making up new things as they go, and it's a giant mess as a result. Even the things they have after-the-fact explanations for still create an awfully messy story without much in the way of unifying themes or congruent messaging.
Scandale du Jour
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She addresses it in The Mandalorian though. Saying that last time she accepted it, it ended in failure. She was not believing the myth before, she does now because she failed.
While I agree with some of your points, that one is a bad example, IMO.
Hivemind
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That example is a perfect representation of what I'm talking about tho. It's "new rules" being introduced by different writers (and in different shows), and then them having to come up with explanations after the fact. It's messy story-writing. There was nothing in Rebels to indicate that Bo Katan didn't believe in the Dark Saber or its "myth."
Scandale du Jour
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In Rebels, they established it as a symbol.
In Mandalorian, they say it must be won by combat. Bo-Kotan does not want to take it because last time she did without winning it by combat, she failed.
It is pretty straight forward.
The helmet thing makes no sense though. The Dark Saber thing? Yes.
