The Jarmo Report (card)

[Tulipunaruusu*]

There's this remarkable thing called The Internet. It, combined with other modern telecommunications technologies, makes it possible to do one's job without necessarily being tied to a specific geographic locale, because it allows the exchange of ideas between folks from very different locations. For example! You appear to be in eastern Europe. I'm in central North America. And yet we still get to have this conversation, thanks to the incredible capabilities of the Internet.

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to communicate planet-wide is insignificant next to the spread of the potato.

Savon Sanomat interview where Kekäläinen speaks against the fear of failure for example:

http://www.savonsanomat.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko/voittaminen-on-muutakin-kuin-tulosta/2232632

"Kekäläinen regards himself as an architect. The coach he holds as the most important element in the team after the players.

Player roles and other team Kekäläinen divides into nuclear players, star players, trunk players, specialists and support.

Kekäläinen straightaway says that not all players are equal in importance.

- That kind of a talk is trash. But everyone is still very important."

That is a very dangerous thing to say albeit very Northern American which is repeated every day in these boards. Is Jarmo Kekäläinen even the first 'European' general vizier in the NHL, we ask.

And I doubt Kekäläinen was in his hometown just for that conference. For example the Edmonton Oilers (including hang-around member Craig MacTavish) were reportedly in Finland this week scouting Patrik Laine and Jesse Puljujärvi. Kekäläinen might be running dangerously low on salted liquorice, fish ****, reindeer, rye bread, mämmi or who knows what which would explain his frequent visits in Finland.

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Kekäläinen is also part of the Finnish World Cup team.

Team Finland

Kale Kummola, President
Matti Nurminen, Executive Director
Jere Lehtinen, General Manager
Jarmo Kekalainen, Assistant General Manager
Lauri Marjamaki, Head Coach

Pekka Jalonen @PekkaJalonen
#Finland & #WorldCup: , Assistant Coach Teppo Numminen, Advisor to Coaching Saku Koivu. Advisor to Team Management Teemu Selänne
Advisor / Scout Kimmo Timonen. #Leijonat

 

[We Want Ten]

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to communicate planet-wide is insignificant next to the spread of the potato.

/Sips coffee and nods.*

*Has no idea what I am nodding along with, but it came out of left field.

 

[Viqsi]

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to communicate planet-wide is insignificant next to the spread of the potato.

Don't try to frighten us with your agricultural ways.

 

[CBJx614]

And it's reasons like this that keep me coming back to these boards...

Interesting take though on player roles. I wonder how many players Jarmo considers "nuclear" compared to just a star?

 

[Bobcat110]

Yep....pretty much right on, except maybe the shots of Columbus being the least relevant city in one of the most depressing states in the union.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/30/12502974/why-your-team-sucks-columbus-blue-jackets

 

[major major]

Yep....pretty much right on, except maybe the shots of Columbus being the least relevant city in one of the most depressing states in the union.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/30/12502974/why-your-team-sucks-columbus-blue-jackets

That was a comedy routine, not analysis. Tyutin as our "only competent defenseman"? This person is not qualified to write about the Blue Jackets.

And this emphasis on bad contracts has a place in some discussions, but does little to explain "why the Jackets suck". Imagine Dubi, Foligno, and Hartsy each costing a bit less. What exactly does that get us on the FA market that makes a difference? Replace Clarkson with 6 years of Andrew Ladd. How many wins does that add, 5?

IMO, they brought in Torts partly as a last ditch effort to save Johansen, and it didn't work. But that's not on Torts, his hiring does not explain why Joey had to be moved.

 

[hockey17jp]

Yep....pretty much right on, except maybe the shots of Columbus being the least relevant city in one of the most depressing states in the union.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/30/12502974/why-your-team-sucks-columbus-blue-jackets

I don't know... I thought that article was pretty terrible.

Every thing this guy says is just a bunch of recycled jokes from the front pages of HFBoards and /r/hockey.

What a loser.

 

[CBJfan4evr]

That was a comedy routine, not analysis. Tyutin as our "only competent defenseman"? This person is not qualified to write about the Blue Jackets.

And this emphasis on bad contracts has a place in some discussions, but does little to explain "why the Jackets suck". Imagine Dubi, Foligno, and Hartsy each costing a bit less. What exactly does that get us on the FA market that makes a difference? Replace Clarkson with 6 years of Andrew Ladd. How many wins does that add, 5?

IMO, they brought in Torts partly as a last ditch effort to save Johansen, and it didn't work. But that's not on Torts, his hiring does not explain why Joey had to be moved.

Guys on Sirrius XM beat us up today for our 8 players making over 4m. Thinking about it and Clarkson is the worst of that group. If Bob plays well I can live with his 7m. Over pay on Foligno for sure; Dubinsky 1.x above market; but really ok with the rest (Jones, Saad, Savard)

 

[major major]

Guys on Sirrius XM beat us up today for our 8 players making over 4m. Thinking about it and Clarkson is the worst of that group. If Bob plays well I can live with his 7m. Over pay on Foligno for sure; Dubinsky 1.x above market; but really ok with the rest (Jones, Saad, Savard)

Its too many contracts that aren't good value, I agree. But you used the phrase "above market", and I have to ask how much do you think Foligno and Dubinsky would be getting paid if they went on this summers ufa market? Based on what others got I'd say $5m+ for both.

 

[Jackets16]

Yep....pretty much right on, except maybe the shots of Columbus being the least relevant city in one of the most depressing states in the union.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/30/12502974/why-your-team-sucks-columbus-blue-jackets

I read maybe 2 or so sentences in that "article". That is quite possibly the dumbest thing ever written about the Jackets.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

IMO, they brought in Torts partly as a last ditch effort to save Johansen, and it didn't work. But that's not on Torts, his hiring does not explain why Joey had to be moved.

Oh I completely disagree. They hired Torts with the mindset of changing the group mentality and the overall team style of play. Johansen was always going to be the sacrificial lamb, for some reason. At least IMO.

 

[CBJfan4evr]

Its too many contracts that aren't good value, I agree. But you used the phrase "above market", and I have to ask how much do you think Foligno and Dubinsky would be getting paid if they went on this summers ufa market? Based on what others got I'd say $5m+ for both.

Of the 8 which I'm only aware of 7 I find the problems one to be Clarkson, Bob is ok if he returns to form. the Sirius guys doubt he will, Dubi and Foligno are similar contracts and not all that bad IMHO. Hartnell is ok if pumps in another 20 goals and keeps his PIMS down. Savard fills a role at a price and term that seem reasonable, Saad, and Jones are good contracts in my opinion

 

[major major]

Of the 8 which I'm only aware of 7 I find the problems one to be Clarkson, Bob is ok if he returns to form. the Sirius guys doubt he will, Dubi and Foligno are similar contracts and not all that bad IMHO. Hartnell is ok if pumps in another 20 goals and keeps his PIMS down. Savard fills a role at a price and term that seem reasonable, Saad, and Jones are good contracts in my opinion

I agree except for Bob. Not that he wouldn't be worth it if he bounces back, but just the fact that you need that qualification on a $7m goalie means it's not a good contract. Up and down goalies shouldn't be paid that much.

 

[Bobcat110]

Sure...it was a dump on Ohio rant by some random DB Toronto blogger...but this organization has been a joke. What has everyone so optimistic this team is going somewhere this year? Are you expecting our incoming young talent to carry us? I enjoyed going up to Cleveland for 6-7 Monster games (Playoff & Reg Season). However, expecting rookies to make a huge difference on a team that otherwise finished 27th in the league seems crazy. Who was the last rookie difference maker for CBJ? Mason?

Personally, I don't see this team going anywhere for another 3 years. All we can do is burn off our **** contracts and hope some young talent develops. I've been buying season tickets since Day One and only the Jeff Carter/Rick Nash season was worse to sit through than last year. I'm going to just expect suck for the near future to avoid the disappointment. We very likely will start either 1-4-2 or 2-4-1 in October vs Bos,SJ,Chi, @Dal,@LA,@Ana,@SJ. 3-3-1 would be a huge surprise and successful month.

I just hope I can make some money back on my Penguins, Blackhawk, & Wings games and try to look for some positives in the other games I can't sell. It's laughable now to recall that last year about this time, this forum was trying to come up with an awesome name for the Saad-Johnson-Foligno line.

Also, what's the coorelation between Ladd and Clarkson? I guess I missed that reference. Was Ladd offered instead of Clarkson or something? How about Jarmo just insuring his assets instead of gambling away $35 million?

Jarmo's gone backwards since he inherited a team that missed the playoffs on a tie-breaker and then made the playoffs next year. He gave away Gaborik for practically nothing during our only 2nd playoff appearance. I despise him selling when we were in the playoff hunt. But, Hey!, we got draft picks which supposedly >>> than having Gaborik for the playoffs because drafting is Jarmo's strong point! At least that's what we keep hearing, because other than Wennberg, none of his draft picks since he joined the CBJ have played significant time in the NHL. His trades have been lateral or backwards and FA signings have been mostly crap. Wash, Rinse and Repeat.

And next year, we'll have the good fortune of sending one of our decent players with a decent contract to the Las Vegas expansion team while we are forced to use our protection status on guys like David Clarkson, Dubi, Foligno, Bob and other players with no trade contracts. I'd place a bet that the Vegas NHL team will win a playoff series before the CBJ do.

How irritating is it that the NHL will gift Vegas a competitve team by having far more favorable expansion draft AND entry draft positioning than anything they did for the Wild, CBJ, Thrasher/Jets, or Preds? Those 4 expansion teams now have combined for 63 seasons, yet only won 7 playoff series between them, which includes the Wild winning two series in 2003 to make the conference finals. So wonderful for NHL fan development in new markets when the four teams have only managed 1 conference final between them and 6 second round appearances.

So, what does have everyone so optimisitic for this season? Help me out

 

[Cyclones Rock]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I read my first post in this thread. I had viewed Dubinsky's contract as one of the few feathers in Jarmo's cap.

Pluck that feather.

I predict that the majority of posters on this board will be calling for Jarmo's head by January.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Of the 8 which I'm only aware of 7 I find the problems one to be Clarkson, Bob is ok if he returns to form. the Sirius guys doubt he will, Dubi and Foligno are similar contracts and not all that bad IMHO. Hartnell is ok if pumps in another 20 goals and keeps his PIMS down. Savard fills a role at a price and term that seem reasonable, Saad, and Jones are good contracts in my opinion

I disagree on Bob. Bob is making $7M and based on history will likely get hurt (groin) and be limited to 50-55 games. That is a terrible value even if he played like he did a few seasons ago. Now throw in how he played last season and he's overpaid by $4-5M per year.

Foligno is terrible because they signed him at his peak. One good year, get paid for multi year deal, return to form.

Dubi I'm ok with. Saad and Jones are ok but there is a risk signing them both long term (not so much Saad who proved he can produce, but moreso with Jones who has ability but needs to do it).

 

[We Want Ten]

Sure...it was a dump on Ohio rant by some random DB Toronto blogger...but this organization has been a joke. What has everyone so optimistic this team is going somewhere this year? Are you expecting our incoming young talent to carry us? I enjoyed going up to Cleveland for 6-7 Monster games (Playoff & Reg Season). However, expecting rookies to make a huge difference on a team that otherwise finished 27th in the league seems crazy. Who was the last rookie difference maker for CBJ? Mason?

Personally, I don't see this team going anywhere for another 3 years. All we can do is burn off our **** contracts and hope some young talent develops. I've been buying season tickets since Day One and only the Jeff Carter/Rick Nash season was worse to sit through than last year. I'm going to just expect suck for the near future to avoid the disappointment. We very likely will start either 1-4-2 or 2-4-1 in October vs Bos,SJ,Chi, @Dal,@LA,@Ana,@SJ. 3-3-1 would be a huge surprise and successful month.

I just hope I can make some money back on my Penguins, Blackhawk, & Wings games and try to look for some positives in the other games I can't sell. It's laughable now to recall that last year about this time, this forum was trying to come up with an awesome name for the Saad-Johnson-Foligno line.

Also, what's the coorelation between Ladd and Clarkson? I guess I missed that reference. Was Ladd offered instead of Clarkson or something? How about Jarmo just insuring his assets instead of gambling away $35 million?

Jarmo's gone backwards since he inherited a team that missed the playoffs on a tie-breaker and then made the playoffs next year. He gave away Gaborik for practically nothing during our only 2nd playoff appearance. I despise him selling when we were in the playoff hunt. But, Hey!, we got draft picks which supposedly >>> than having Gaborik for the playoffs because drafting is Jarmo's strong point! At least that's what we keep hearing, because other than Wennberg, none of his draft picks since he joined the CBJ have played significant time in the NHL. His trades have been lateral or backwards and FA signings have been mostly crap. Wash, Rinse and Repeat.

And next year, we'll have the good fortune of sending one of our decent players with a decent contract to the Las Vegas expansion team while we are forced to use our protection status on guys like David Clarkson, Dubi, Foligno, Bob and other players with no trade contracts. I'd place a bet that the Vegas NHL team will win a playoff series before the CBJ do.

How irritating is it that the NHL will gift Vegas a competitve team by having far more favorable expansion draft AND entry draft positioning than anything they did for the Wild, CBJ, Thrasher/Jets, or Preds? Those 4 expansion teams now have combined for 63 seasons, yet only won 7 playoff series between them, which includes the Wild winning two series in 2003 to make the conference finals. So wonderful for NHL fan development in new markets when the four teams have only managed 1 conference final between them and 6 second round appearances.

So, what does have everyone so optimisitic for this season? Help me out

Good post. I don't agree with all of it, but pretty good job summing up how I feel as well for the most part.

I do think the Vegas expansion team will be successful before we are, partly by the new drafting rules placed by the NHL and partly because, well we are the CBJ.

I think next year they have a good chance to start turning it around though. Problem is everytime we start improving, something drastic happens to change our course.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

That was a comedy routine, not analysis.

Actually this is exactly right. This is an annual series - they do a "why your team sucks" for (I think) pretty much every team. And yeah it's purposefully heavy on the hyperbole and sarcasm and also purposefully overblows even the worst-case scenario in the interest of (hoped-for) comedy.

Now, it's a silly concept and a convenient blog strategy, but it sure as hell isn't genuine analysis and should be summarily dismissed by any fanbase with a hint of self-respect.

 

[Dr. Fire]

Yep....pretty much right on, except maybe the shots of Columbus being the least relevant city in one of the most depressing states in the union.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/30/12502974/why-your-team-sucks-columbus-blue-jackets

The whole point of this story is why your team SUCKS, so I actually got a chuckle out of it. It is pretty brutal to the team, but when it got to bashing the State and City, I sort of knew to take it with a grain of salt.

As far as the team evaluation, I gotta admit, it told a lot of truth, just in as brutal a manner as possible.

I thought it was kind of funny, and it really didn't bother me.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I read maybe 2 or so sentences in that "article". That is quite possibly the dumbest thing ever written about the Jackets.

You...you are familiar with Deadspin's "Why Your Team Sucks" series, right?

 

[BluejacketNut]

I also was a little annoyed at the shots at Columbus, but everything else about the team is pretty much spot on.

 

[Jackets16]

You...you are familiar with Deadspin's "Why Your Team Sucks" series, right?

I don't care what they were trying to do. That "article" was crap. No, I am not. I don't read their stuff.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I don't care what they were trying to do. That "article" was crap. No, I am not. I don't read their stuff.

So you're not familiar with that style of writing, but still call the writing crap. Got it.

Everyone can calm down. They're releasing an entire series on other teams, Columbus won't be the only one.

 

[Jackets16]

So you're not familiar with that style of writing, but still call the writing crap. Got it.

Everyone can calm down. They're releasing an entire series on other teams, Columbus won't be the only one.

I know what it is. It is crap. I'm sorry that I don't read junk like that. I get absolutely nothing from that.

 

[DarkandStormy]

The site has done Toronto - http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/25/12457156/why-your-team-sucks-toronto-maple-leafs

Edmonton - http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/26/12459204/why-your-team-sucks-edmonton-oilers

Vancouver - http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/29/12460594/why-your-team-sucks-vancouver-canucks

Calgary - http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/8/31/12507862/why-your-team-sucks-calgary-flames