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I'm seriously starting to wonder if he's going to ever be scored on again. For much of 2015 he had a save percentage over .940 and currently he's sitting at .965. That isn't going to last all year but it's absolutely insane.
I was doing a excel spreadsheet comparing GF and GA for the Habs during the past 3 seasons and noticed that Price had a few games early in 2014-15 where he have up around 5 goals which no doubt affected his final numbers a bit. The level we are seeing him at right now is his peak form from the 2014-2015 year which is astonishing considering he is coming off a deep case of the flu and a major injury.
 
I'm sorry if I offended the cult of Eller but he had his chance and he didn't grab it.
 
Just wanted to say congrats to Condon. Hope he can continue his NHL career and hope this would be a restart to his career.
 
That was a horrible play by Subban.

As far as this "head to head" thing goes... Weber can give away the puck in the slot (which he did recently) and Price will be there to save it. Subban won't be so lucky with Rinne. So is it bad defensive plays or defensive plays that lead to a goal that you'd look at? Because the way it looks right now Carey Price isn't going to let in another goal this year. :laugh:

I'd suggest that Rinne won't be so lucky with Subban. On that play Duclair walked around Subban and didn't even scramble back to pick up the trailer, who scored on the rebound. Multiple instances this year of Subban making boneheaded plays - unable to clear the slot, way out of position - and hanging Rinne out to dry.

Of course Price is insane, and he makes everyone better, that is not in dispute. I'd suggest though that Weber makes Prices job easier as well. Can't say the same for Subban / Rinne.
 
One guy can go 40 games with no PP points and still get regular shifts the other can go a few games and then get bumped to a lower line. All the crap about Eller aside, it's laughable to say he got a real opportunity here.

If your point is that they both suck, I agree.

If you believe that Lars is a top 6 guy that should play PP and more than 15 mins a game, strongly disagree.
 
I was doing a excel spreadsheet comparing GF and GA for the Habs during the past 3 seasons and noticed that Price had a few games early in 2014-15 where he have up around 5 goals which no doubt affected his final numbers a bit. The level we are seeing him at right now is his peak form from the 2014-2015 year which is astonishing considering he is coming off a deep case of the flu and a major injury.
In the final stretch of 2015 I remember he had a shot at Hasek's record and then gave up some goals. I'm not sure if he was hurt (I think he might've been) but numbers wise he was insane.

And the scary thing is I think he might've been better in 2014. His numbers weren't as good but he was absolutely spectacular that year as the team in front of him played terrible hockey. Us making the playoffs was almost entirely due to his heroics and it's a testament to how good he is that he led us to 100 points that year.

I know people talk about Crosby being the best but it's insane what Price has been able to do with the way this team has played in front of him in years past.

If your point is that they both suck, I agree.

If you believe that Lars is a top 6 guy that should play PP and more than 15 mins a game, strongly disagree.
I'm simply saying that he should've been given more opportunity back then esp given the alternative. He was badly mismanaged.
 
Seriously though how long is Price going to allow under two goals per game before the other teams start shooting high, that's his weakness!

2014 Vezina/Hart winning year GAA : 1.96

2015 GAA : 2.07

2016 GAA so far : 1.16

So the answer could be, a very long time. And Weber seems to be helping that stat as well

Price's only weakness is deflected shots, which is, every single goaltenders weakness.
 
I'd suggest that Rinne won't be so lucky with Subban. On that play Duclair walked around Subban and didn't even scramble back to pick up the trailer, who scored on the rebound. Multiple instances this year of Subban making boneheaded plays - unable to clear the slot, way out of position - and hanging Rinne out to dry.

Of course Price is insane, and he makes everyone better, that is not in dispute. I'd suggest though that Weber makes Prices job easier as well. Can't say the same for Subban / Rinne.

Conversation picked up by the network mics during the Duclair goal.

PK: Bends over and exposes his backside to Domi Hey, Max, I got a mole on my back. You wanna take a look at it and tell me what you see.
Domi: As he dekes past PK Not right now, PK. I'm busy playing hockey. Why don't you ask Anthony. He's just standing around doing nothing
PK:Oh, okay. Spins around, confused. Can't find Anthony But where is he?
Domi: He's at the end of my pass, PK.
PK: Yeah, I see him. Hey, Anthony.......
Duclair: Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
PK: Never mind, forget it.

That's not the first time PK has looked bad on a defensive play and yet there are posters who claim PK is great defensively.
 
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2014 Vezina/Hart winning year GAA : 1.96

2015 GAA : 2.07

2016 GAA so far : 1.16

So the answer could be, a very long time. And Weber seems to be helping that stat as well

Price's only weakness is deflected shots, which is, every single goaltenders weakness.

I'm not a fan of extrapolating from a small sample of games. Only thing I'm looking for is no signs of last year's injury. Price seems to have picked up where he left off before the injury and that means he can reclaim that best player in the world status by season's end. The guy is a beast and yes, could be for a very long time.
 
PK came close to getting on board, but I give Game #10 to Even. Primary assist is counterbalanced by losing the man that scored the tying goal leading to a SO loss. Weber didn't get any points, but he was a rock in a shutout and was on the ice for 2 Habs goals, IIRC. Also had that beautiful clear in front of the net on one of the Sedins, I believe. That man is NOT to be ****ed with.

Even 6, Weber 4, Subban 0.
 
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Man.

PK with another, yes ANOTHER, terrible mistake at a crucial moment in the game.

It's nice to finally fleece a team in a major trade.

Go Habs Go

I think i've never seen the Habs made a trade such one-sided. And i totally loved that trade the second i heard about it.
 
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Nobody evaluated Diaz that highly. Some thought he might be a number four.

Nobody called Shea Weber a number 7 either. The worst anybody wrote was that he was a number 3.

Diaz was called the Markov replacement.

And even calling him a number four was a major exageration.

Calling Weber a number 3 is pure stupidness too.
 
Conversation picked up by the network mics during the Duclair goal.

PK: Bends over and exposes his backside to Domi Hey, Max, I got a mole on my back. You wanna take a look at it and tell me what you see.
Domi: As he dekes past PK Not right now, PK. I'm busy playing hockey. Why don't you ask Anthony. He's just standing around doing nothing
PK:Oh, okay. Spins around, confused. Can't find Anthony But where is he?
Domi: He's at the end of my pass, PK.
PK: Yeah, I see him. Hey, Anthony.......
Duclair: Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
PK: Never mind, forget it.

That's not the first time PK has looked bad on a defensive play and yet there are posters who claim PK is great defensively.

Well, you know, analytics.... <cough>
 
For all the flak Eller was/is getting the guy was solid in the playoffs. For the PO i'd rather have him over DD to be honest.

But he's gone so it is what it is
 
For all the flak Eller was/is getting the guy was solid in the playoffs. For the PO i'd rather have him over DD to be honest.

But he's gone so it is what it is

Take out his one good run when we went to the ECF where everyone was having a good playoffs even the hated DD and his playoff resume is overrated.

in 20 games he has 1 goal and 5 points. DD only has 5 less playoff points then him. DD is not good in the playoffs but 5 pts more doesn't scream solid.
 
For all the flak Eller was/is getting the guy was solid in the playoffs. For the PO i'd rather have him over DD to be honest.

But he's gone so it is what it is

He had one good playoff run. In 2014 when we made the ECF. So did the rest of the team that year. In 2015, he wasn't this playoff performer everyone makes him out to be.
 
So....

Shea Weber. Game #11. Habs lost 10-0. No points, on the ice for 2 shorthanded Columbus goals and no more, 4 shots, 1 hit, one blocked shot, no giveaways, no takeaways.

Another opportunity for PK to get on board.
 
Take out his one good run when we went to the ECF where everyone was having a good playoffs even the hated DD and his playoff resume is overrated.

in 20 games he has 1 goal and 5 points. DD only has 5 less playoff points then him. DD is not good in the playoffs but 5 pts more doesn't scream solid.

Right and if you remove all the plays where DD had points then everyone had more points then he did.

Eller in the playoffs especially never had PP time or wingers like pacioretty Vanek and Gallagher

Remove DD pp points in the playoffs and he had 9 points less in four games more played
 
So....

Shea Weber. Game #11. Habs lost 10-0. No points, on the ice for 2 shorthanded Columbus goals and no more, 4 shots, 1 hit, one blocked shot, no giveaways, no takeaways.

Another opportunity for PK to get on board.
If PK were here we'd have lost 10-1.
 
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