Iron Balls McGinty
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Player Discussion: The Elvis Thread
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Iron Balls McGinty
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According to this article, I'm led to believe they couldn't come to terms on a contract and he chose to move on. I'm guessing Jarmo lowballed him.
Ian Clark wondered if he would be back in Vancouver before hard push by the Canucks
The Canucks goaltending coach was "prepared to move on" but is happy to be back in Vancouver.
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“I had been through this before in Columbus and we made the decision to move on. But, again, the organization pushed hard at the end here and we’re happy, we’re excited, and ready to get to work on bringing a Cup to Vancouver.”
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He must have been an RFA?According to this article, I'm led to believe they couldn't come to terms on a contract and he chose to move on. I'm guessing Jarmo lowballed him.
Ian Clark wondered if he would be back in Vancouver before hard push by the Canucks
The Canucks goaltending coach was "prepared to move on" but is happy to be back in Vancouver.
“I had been through this before in Columbus and we made the decision to move on. But, again, the organization pushed hard at the end here and we’re happy, we’re excited, and ready to get to work on bringing a Cup to Vancouver.”
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What would happen with his cap hit if we loaned him to a Swiss team for a season to get his game straightened out?
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Unless they loophole it into the player's assistance program like they did wth Texier I assume we'd still be on the hook for it. In the case of Texier it just gets bumped out a year.
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Well technically he was UFA and walked when Jarmo wouldn't meet his price. He also failed to trade him at the trade deadline for a pick in the goalie coach draft.He must have been an RFA?
JacketFanInFL
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Our management chose Jared Boll and Derek Doresett to be development coaches…
at this point one can't help but wonder if they consider waiving him when Korpi is back
maybe he goes to the A and gets some confidence back
how many times can you watch a guy give up 5-6 every game?
maybe he goes to the A and gets some confidence back
how many times can you watch a guy give up 5-6 every game?
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Herein lies a huge problem
when you retool or rebuild with youth you need great coaches who can teach how to play the position and play the game
In my opinion the CBJ fails miserably across the board in having coaches who are great teachers
we need Dave King type of coach for the skaters and an Ian Clark type for the goalies
Iron Balls McGinty
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I certainly have my doubts about this staff for sure. Keeping Blashill for so long hasn't exactly helped the Red Wings grow or improve very much. Yzerman took the blame when they fired him saying he didn't do anything wrong but yet cited consistently poor defensive play and the team had regressed as to why.
Sort of sounds familiar IMO.
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What bothers me is I see no plan. I can’t identify any strategy during the games. I don’t understand what they were trying to accomplish with the defense before all the injuries. I don’t see a strategy for developing the high draft picks. The only thing I see is hiring ex Jackets and ex Monsters to positions within the organization, and I don’t know if that is the best path to follow. I don’t know what the vision for this team is. I think, especially the last few years, Torts had a vision, but it wasn’t shared by management. Jarmo has done plenty for which he should be commended, but it is time to move on. I don’t know that Larsen has done anything. Let’s clean house and bring in an established hockey mind to build the next phase of the Jackets.
I love Elvis. I hope more than anyone he turns his game around.
But if he doesn't, this could become reality.
But if he doesn't, this could become reality.
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Eating that cap hit for 8 years won't happen. You'd rather just suck it up for another year or 2 and see if it can get fixed before you look at the buyout route.I love Elvis. I hope more than anyone he turns his game around.
But if he doesn't, this could become reality.
I love Elvis. I hope more than anyone he turns his game around.
But if he doesn't, this could become reality.
Eh, does anyone think this team is going to compete in '23-'24?
Probably give him another year and if the cap hit starts to hinder this team's ability to compete, that's when you look at a buyout or whatnot.
I thought he was OK last night. Definitely feel like a new goalie coach could be the answer, but is Elvis himself even open to that? Not necessarily his decision, but he's the one who will have to put in the work with that new person.
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Elvis should be willing to do whatever it takes to be better. he can only do what he can do and the organization better be doing the same.
As we can all see, what is happening now ain't working.
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I know Legace has become the whipping boy for Elvis' struggles, but the fact is, the other two goalies are both above 90 percent save percentage playing behind the same crap team. Elvis needs more than just a new goalie coach, unless the coach is a shrink too. Elvis' body language after he gives up goals is terrible, and you can see he doesn't put them out of his head as the game goes on. He needs help mentally to get his head straight. It is unfortunate what has happened with Kiv, and the abuse his wife took, but he still has a job to do, and he needs to fix himself.
Since 2000 (the start of the franchise), Elvis is currently on pace for the 6th-worst season by a goalie in terms of save % (minimum 10 games played....which, if we bump that up to 15, makes Elvis look even worse).
EDIT - and it's the worst season in terms of GAA.
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I don't think there's really a discussion to be had regarding Elvis' play. The discussion is what's to be done about it.
Right?
Right?
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There's not a lot of options.
1) keep him in the NHL and let him play through his struggles until he figures it out. It's not uncommon for good goalies to fall apart and bounce back. The team is tanking anyways so what do we care if the process hurts us this year.
2) send him to Cleveland to work on his game away from the spotlight. The Kings sent Cal Petersen to their AHL affiliate.
3) trade Elvis for another bad contract (e.g. Cal Petersen). Elvis might be more likely to bounce back with a fresh start elsewhere. I'm not sure this is an option but I think it might be.
I'm starting to worry that his mental state is too bad to do option one. We can handle him sucking but he can't handle it, which prevents his recovery. So that leaves 2 & 3. If they know internally that Elvis needs a change of scenery and they know they have a trade option for another bad contract, then I think the best thing to do is option 3. If there isn't a deal possible and/or Elvis doesn't need a trade then we should send him to Cleveland.
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I think Legace is a whipping boy because all goaltending has regressed each year over the last few years.
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There could be something to that, definitely. But, sticking with Columbus goalies, if you just look at Korpi and Tarasov's numbers, we are actually above league average save pct. wise. At this point, I really think Elvis needs something either the Jackets can't provide, or he may think he doesn't need, but he needs help. He looks lost out there after he gives up a couple goals. I hope he figures it out, more for his own health, mentally. I am not really concerned about the playing part of it, I just want to see him straighten out what is hurting him. That picture of him on the ice after the game kind of bums me out. Not being there, I don't know what preceded it. Hopefully the team acknowledged him before they left the ice, which I am assuming they did. I have never been to a game where the losing team doesn't say something to the goalie after a loss, but if they just went back to the locker room and left him out there, there could be bigger problems than just his mental health.
